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Just Alex 05-15-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20088215)
what was my point about a first world country, pillar of "freedom and democracy", having 40% of the worlds inmates? :1orglaugh

seems completely normal...5% of the worlds population holding 40% of the worlds prisoners...the graph just goes to show how easy it is for them to assimilate in to your culture and get a job...

most of them are refugees from a war, and came because the USA probably fucked shit up in their region over corporate politics...they have little job choices or education but the USA has a phoney drug war that creates a billion dollar drug market and this leaves them with little options but to push drugs or crime...

"bloody immigrants" is so easy to say...but you are breeding a whole sub culture of inmates and drug dealers...

its just time to pay for your corporate foreign policy plain and simple...not just the USA but all of europe...you will win the oil and resource wars but in the end, the influx of poor exploited 3rd world people will be too much for you...

just like it happened in my shitty country :2 cents:

Just another idiot Euro who can't read simple graphs. Don't you see that 15% of our population represent over 50% of crime? Want to take them to Albania or where ever you are? They won't be missed, trust me. :2 cents:

Cherry7 05-16-2014 04:06 AM

Most of us Spanish people hate the English who come here, the don't learn the language they don't eat our food, they get drunk and assault our women.

Most of us Iraq s hate the American/Brits who bomb our country kill our men women children

Most of us Vietnamese Hate the Americans who come here rape our women....


etc

Antonio 05-16-2014 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20088483)
Just another idiot Euro who can't read simple graphs. Don't you see that 15% of our population represent over 50% of crime? Want to take them to Albania or where ever you are? They won't be missed, trust me. :2 cents:

Just like in every other country - the poorest are the ones that commit most of the crime, skin color makes no difference. Russia is 97% white, murder per capita is through the roof.

All hardcore racists are fucking pussies ? if you want to hate, hate. Nobody's stopping you from being a retard, why do you need to look for excuses?

pimpmaster9000 05-16-2014 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20088483)
Just another idiot Euro who can't read simple graphs. Don't you see that 15% of our population represent over 50% of crime? Want to take them to Albania or where ever you are? They won't be missed, trust me. :2 cents:

I can read graphs fine...furthermore I completely understand that the minorities account for most of the crime...crystal clear...

what you do not understand is that it is the white persons fault for being such a drug addict in the first place, creating the almighty law of demand and supply...

the job vacuum the white man created with wars and corporate politics and YES local 3rd world bullshit is to blame as well, has resulted in refugees and immigrants...

being that most immigrants were denied an education or a job, most of them have no other way to feed themselves but crime...its reality...the fact that you do not approve does not change it LOL shit I don't like rain

my point: you are not taking any personal responsibility for your drug abuse, nor the shit US and EU foreign policy create in the 3rd world, not the FACT that you let them immigrate to a no-job situation in the first place :2 cents: nor the FACT that drugs.inc is the only company in town hirin' poor unskilled immigrants...

nooooooo...its "filthy immigrants fault(*snorts a line of cocke) why dont they get a job???" :1orglaugh

YOU made them that way...nobody chooses to be an immigrant or criminal if they have a chance at a normal life and you know this...its like blaming diabetics for being diabetics LOL..dont be diabetic! LOL

you hold 40% of the world inmates heloooooooooooooooooooo :1orglaugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...escale.svg.png

lets see from 1980 to today it has shot up like 5x so its fair to say that in the next 30 years it will shoot up another 5x? :1orglaugh thats like 12million people+

I cant help but wonder if the US gov is in fact importing immigrants and incarcerating them and the poor for money you make the tax payers fork out in exchange for "Safety" LOL the whole drug war is actually one big gold mine for a few in the US gov.

the US situation is, in a nutshell, happening in the EU as well but not to such an extent...US crime is #1 in the first world because they actively breed a subculture of humans with their insane drug appetites and drug laws...no other country gets as wasted, but others are somehow to blame LOL

BlackCrayon 05-16-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20088880)
I can read graphs fine...furthermore I completely understand that the minorities account for most of the crime...crystal clear...

what you do not understand is that it is the white persons fault for being such a drug addict in the first place, creating the almighty law of demand and supply...

the job vacuum the white man created with wars and corporate politics and YES local 3rd world bullshit is to blame as well, has resulted in refugees and immigrants...

being that most immigrants were denied an education or a job, most of them have no other way to feed themselves but crime...its reality...the fact that you do not approve does not change it LOL shit I don't like rain

my point: you are not taking any personal responsibility for your drug abuse, nor the shit US and EU foreign policy create in the 3rd world, not the FACT that you let them immigrate to a no-job situation in the first place :2 cents: nor the FACT that drugs.inc is the only company in town hirin' poor unskilled immigrants...

nooooooo...its "filthy immigrants fault(*snorts a line of cocke) why dont they get a job???" :1orglaugh

YOU made them that way...nobody chooses to be an immigrant or criminal if they have a chance at a normal life and you know this...its like blaming diabetics for being diabetics LOL..dont be diabetic! LOL

you hold 40% of the world inmates heloooooooooooooooooooo :1orglaugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...escale.svg.png

lets see from 1980 to today it has shot up like 5x so its fair to say that in the next 30 years it will shoot up another 5x? :1orglaugh thats like 12million people+

I cant help but wonder if the US gov is in fact importing immigrants and incarcerating them and the poor for money you make the tax payers fork out in exchange for "Safety" LOL the whole drug war is actually one big gold mine for a few in the US gov.

the US situation is, in a nutshell, happening in the EU as well but not to such an extent...US crime is #1 in the first world because they actively breed a subculture of humans with their insane drug appetites and drug laws...no other country gets as wasted, but others are somehow to blame LOL

if you want to play the blame game you can place it on the corrupt governments where immigrants come from. and i know lots of people who had a great chance at life, middle class or upper middle class parents, they still turned to drugs and crime anyways.

Just Alex 05-16-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20088846)
Just like in every other country - the poorest are the ones that commit most of the crime, skin color makes no difference. Russia is 97% white, murder per capita is through the roof.

All hardcore racists are fucking pussies ? if you want to hate, hate. Nobody's stopping you from being a retard, why do you need to look for excuses?

Horse shit. They commit crime not because they CHOSE to be poor, but because their sub-culture tells them it?s Ok to do so. Compare their numbers to Asian community. These people come here for reason, they want better life and actually strive to achieve it. Highest enrollment in colleges, wealthiest minority. What do blacks do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Same old 'blame the other guy' game.

Just Alex 05-16-2014 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20088880)

being that most immigrants were denied an education or a job, most of them have no other way to feed themselves but crime...its reality...the fact that you do not approve does not change it LOL shit I don't like rain

I don't know how shit goes down in Albania, but legal immigrants here have same rights as everyone else. As matter of fact, most immigrant kids do go to college and get degrees because they want to do better than mom and dad who brought them here. Asian immigrants have something like 80% college enrollment rate. Blacks sit at 12%? So cry me a fucking river.

Antonio 05-16-2014 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20088909)
Horse shit. They commit crime not because they CHOSE to be poor, but because their sub-culture tells them it?s Ok to do so. Compare their numbers to Asian community. These people come here for reason, they want better life and actually strive to achieve it. Highest enrollment in colleges, wealthiest minority. What do blacks do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Same old 'blame the other guy' game.

Nothing to compare - the whites have slaughtered way more people than any other race; even when you calculate it per capita we are hundreds of years ahead and we have committed the most despicable crimes. The black people with one single large genocide are lke school girls comapred to the whites.

Maqua 05-16-2014 07:30 AM


rogueteens 05-16-2014 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20088938)
Nothing to compare - the whites have slaughtered way more people than any other race; even when you calculate it per capita we are hundreds of years ahead and we have committed the most despicable crimes. The black people with one single large genocide are lke school girls comapred to the whites.

i think you need to learn some more history.

Antonio 05-16-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089028)
i think you need to learn some more history.

Sure:

SHIT THE WHITE PEOPLE STARTED:

WW1 - 16 million people dead
WW2 - 60 million people dead

Should we go further back in history?

mayabong 05-16-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20088938)
Nothing to compare - the whites have slaughtered way more people than any other race; even when you calculate it per capita we are hundreds of years ahead and we have committed the most despicable crimes. The black people with one single large genocide are lke school girls comapred to the whites.

Yet all the darkies want to come live in the white civilizations. You'd think they would all be running the other way. :1orglaugh

When they get here then they complain about how racist and evil whites are. Wtf?

You should also learn some history.

EonBlue 05-16-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089041)
Sure:

SHIT THE WHITE PEOPLE STARTED:

WW1 - 16 million people dead
WW2 - 60 million people dead

Should we go further back in history?

How about forward in history:

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'

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Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to 1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.

rogueteens 05-16-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089041)
Sure:

SHIT THE WHITE PEOPLE STARTED:

WW1 - 16 million people dead
WW2 - 60 million people dead

Should we go further back in history?

yes. there is more to history than just European history, if you want genocide then look at what the Chinese have done in the past, the Japanese and every sub-Saharan Africa country. Why not check out people or groups like Pol Pot, Genghis Khan, the Turkish sultans or even the Arab slave trade.

need I go on?


actually, I will - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_death_ toll

oppoten 05-16-2014 08:38 AM

Yeah, whitey's been despicable in the past. And when the Jewish-led minority coalition starts to push us back, we'll probably be despicable again.

Lesson being, don't fuck with us :)

klinton 05-16-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089067)
need I go on?

dont forget about British colonial empire enslaving people for centuries !:1orglaugh:winkwink:

rogueteens 05-16-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20089074)
dont forget about British colonial empire enslaving people for centuries !:1orglaugh:winkwink:

yeah, how dare we drag them screaming and kicking into civilisation.
And it was the British colonial empire that abolished slavery then used it's naval might to enforce a worldwide ban as best it could, what other country can say that?

klinton 05-16-2014 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089083)
And it was the British colonial empire that abolished slavery (...) + freedom fighters

well, not at the first moment, didnt they ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 05-16-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089083)
yeah, how dare we drag them screaming and kicking into civilisation.

indeed, with such high fees included with that "deal"

EonBlue 05-16-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20089074)
dont forget about British colonial empire enslaving people for centuries !:1orglaugh:winkwink:

You mean like every other society in the world had done since the beginning of humanity?

How about you make mention of the fact that it was the English who were one of the first to move to abolish slavery in modern times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

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Slavery has existed, in one form or another, through the whole of recorded human history?as have, in various periods, movements to free large or distinct groups of slaves.

[...]

One of the most significant milestones in the campaign to abolish slavery throughout the world occurred in England in 1772, with British judge Lord Mansfield, whose opinion in Somersett's Case was widely taken to have held that slavery was illegal in England. This judgement also laid down the principle that slavery contracted in other jurisdictions (such as the American colonies) could not be enforced in England.[215] In 1777, Vermont became the first portion of what would become the United States to abolish slavery (at the time Vermont was an independent nation). In 1794, under the Jacobins, Revolutionary France abolished slavery.[216] There were celebrations in 2007 to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Abolition of the slave trade in the United Kingdom through the work of the British Anti-Slavery Society.

rogueteens 05-16-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20089087)
well, not at the first moment, didnt they ?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

okay, why not mention the Africans who practiced slavery or the arabs or just about everywhere else at the time, you owe the British much! :)


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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20089088)
indeed, with such high fees included with that "deal"

Could be worse, Africa was 2,000 years behind most of the rest of the world before European colonialisation. You owe the British much! :)

pimpmaster9000 05-16-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 20088917)
I don't know how shit goes down in Albania, but legal immigrants here have same rights as everyone else. As matter of fact, most immigrant kids do go to college and get degrees because they want to do better than mom and dad who brought them here. Asian immigrants have something like 80% college enrollment rate. Blacks sit at 12%? So cry me a fucking river.

yes asians have 80% college enlistment but reality is still reality for blacks and hispanics and immigrants...how are you going to deal with the problem other than accepting it for what it is? denial is just making the problem bigger...

YOU are at fault for being such drug addicts :1orglaugh YOUR double standard is at fault for punishing the blacks for supplying your demand :1orglaugh then blacks and minotiries make your government money$$$ by keeping blacks in prison and then spitting them back to the streets again to supply your demand...

its like a modern version of slaves in ancient rome...your own free work force to exploit and keep you supplied with stuff YOU criminalized in the first place BUT you are addicted to it like nobody else in the world :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

a good step would be to decriminalize your addiction as a society...if crime is not the path of least resistance then most wont go that way...and the only way to do that is to take profit out of drugs and tax it and distribute legally...

the alternative is to climb right back on your fake ivory tower and to expect the poor and hungry not to break your drug laws and to die of hunger slowly...or just quit doing drugs :2 cents:

EonBlue 05-16-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20089123)
yes asians have 80% college enlistment but reality is still reality for blacks and hispanics and immigrants...how are you going to deal with the problem other than accepting it for what it is? denial is just making the problem bigger...

YOU are at fault for being such drug addicts :1orglaugh YOUR double standard is at fault for punishing the blacks for supplying your demand :1orglaugh then blacks and minotiries make your government money$$$ by keeping blacks in prison and then spitting them back to the streets again to supply your demand...

its like a modern version of slaves in ancient rome...your own free work force to exploit and keep you supplied with stuff YOU criminalized in the first place BUT you are addicted to it like nobody else in the world :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

a good step would be to decriminalize your addiction as a society...if crime is not the path of least resistance then most wont go that way...and the only way to do that is to take profit out of drugs and tax it and distribute legally...

the alternative is to climb right back on your fake ivory tower and to expect the poor and hungry not to break your drug laws and to die of hunger slowly...or just quit doing drugs :2 cents:

So illegal drugs are an issue only for the US? Only white people use drugs and only black people deal drugs? Or perhaps you have to stop generalizing so much and start looking at things without the lens of your blatant hate of the US.

Drugs use map of the world

Antonio 05-16-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089067)
yes. there is more to history than just European history...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_death_ toll

Which was my point exactly?

If you have nothing better to do, take whites vs blacks, number of deaths (choose either lowest or highest estimate), take into account the %-age of the race, calculate deaths per capita and see what numbers you come up with for both races.

Even after you take into account the changes by race over the years, you will get something along these lines (guesstimating here):
- whites -> 20-25% caused at least 35-45% of all deaths
- blacks -> 15% or so caused 10% of all deaths

Anyone with tons of free time on their hands could do some rough calculations and share with us in this awesome thread.

klinton 05-16-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089117)
Could be worse, Africa was 2,000 years behind most of the rest of the world before European colonialisation. You owe the British much! :)

it was behind, it is behind and it will be behind..because...it is Africa :winkwink:

rogueteens 05-16-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089209)
Which was my point exactly?

.... blah, blah, blah.

No, your point was "shit the white people started", read that link again.

EonBlue 05-16-2014 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089209)
Which was my point exactly?

If you have nothing better to do, take whites vs blacks, number of deaths (choose either lowest or highest estimate), take into account the %-age of the race, calculate deaths per capita and see what numbers you come up with for both races.

Even after you take into account the changes by race over the years, you will get something along these lines (guesstimating here):
- whites -> 20-25% caused at least 35-45% of all deaths
- blacks -> 15% or so caused 10% of all deaths

Anyone with tons of free time on their hands could do some rough calculations and share with us in this awesome thread.

This is a ridiculous and pointless line of argument. It amounts to nothing more than whitey bad, everyone else good.

Before going down that road you should also consider that whites are responsible for 99% of the medical advancements, technology and infrastructure that has saved millions upon millions of lives over the past half century.

Antonio 05-16-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20089227)
No, your point was "shit the white people started", read that link again.

Do the numebers, come back to us.

Antonio 05-16-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20089232)
This is a ridiculous and pointless line of argument. It amounts to nothing more than whitey bad, everyone else good.

People are people, skin color makes zero difference.

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20089232)
whites are responsible for 99% of the medical advancements, technology and infrastructure

99% might be pushing it, but the number is super high, you won't see me arguing here

mayabong 05-16-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089254)
People are people, skin color makes zero difference.

Except when you are talking about how evil white people are then skin color certainly matters.

Antonio 05-16-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mayabong (Post 20089257)
Except when you are talking about how evil white people are then skin color certainly matters.

Feel free to quote me saying that white peole are evil.

pimpmaster9000 05-16-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20089142)
So illegal drugs are an issue only for the US? Only white people use drugs and only black people deal drugs? Or perhaps you have to stop generalizing so much and start looking at things without the lens of your blatant hate of the US.

Drugs use map of the world

no illegal drugs are an issue everywhere...its how you deal with the issue, that is best seen in the failure of the US system, that puts in to proper perspective the real problem of your utter inability to stop the law of demand and supply...

for the 100th time I do not hate the abstract thing you call the USA its a piece of land for fucks sake why would I hate it? :1orglaugh hating somebody because they feel allegiance to an abstract boarder or an imaginary friend in the sky or skin color is just stupid...

I hate people who monger war and drop bombs and the US gov is the #1 purveyor of violence in the world...

mayabong 05-16-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089261)
Feel free to quote me saying that white peole are evil.

Race doesn't exist, its just skin color!

Here look at these stats on how many people WHITE people killed!

Typical of the "anti-racist" types.

Just Alex 05-16-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089041)
Sure:

SHIT THE WHITE PEOPLE STARTED:

WW1 - 16 million people dead
WW2 - 60 million people dead

Should we go further back in history?

What the fuck WW1 and 2 has to do with current crime situation? Are we supposed to let them even up the score before we can do something about it? How about round them all up and deport to Rwanda. Let them kill each other then I don't give a fuck.

bean-aid 05-16-2014 11:59 AM

Are we still talking about hot swedish women w blue eyes?

michael.kickass 05-16-2014 12:38 PM

Silly me, I was hoping to see a funny 'meanwhile in...' picture when I clicked on this thread. :Oh crap

oppoten 05-16-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20089209)
Even after you take into account the changes by race over the years, you will get something along these lines (guesstimating here):
- whites -> 20-25% caused at least 35-45% of all deaths
- blacks -> 15% or so caused 10% of all deaths

That's really skewed by war though. Most blacks haven't fought wars on such a large scale.

What I take from the numbers is that whites are willing to fight and die for a cause. Nothing wrong with that.

Just Alex 05-16-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20089326)
Are we still talking about hot swedish women w blue eyes?

No, we are past that. Right now we are feeling guilty for having 2 world wars and not inviting africans to fight with or against us.

klinton 05-16-2014 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20089326)
Are we still talking about hot swedish women w blue eyes?

:1orglaugh


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