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dyna mo 05-21-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094698)
took the time?

'(she states right there she's dreaming up her diatribe)'

thank you for stating how you dreamed up yours.



again, you challenged my view and asked me to reply, I did. You can either appreciate and respect that I took the time to answer you or you can take it as an opportunity to be a dick. either way is fine with me. nevertheless, I'm pointing out you asked for something and I delivered, you're welcome.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094711)
again, you challenged my view and asked me to reply, I did. You can either appreciate and respect that I took the time to answer you or you can take it as an opportunity to be a dick. either way is fine with me. nevertheless, I'm pointing out you asked for something and I delivered, you're welcome.

do you believe a request for clarification is a challenge?

i notice your response didn't clarify anything

so you wish for me to say thank you because you deigned to respond to my request for clarification? without actually clarifying anything?

nico-t 05-21-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20094694)
LOL, think green

My Harley gets 40 mpg, about the same as most Hybrids and it's a lot cooler and more fun to ride and I get to ride it in the diamond lane!!

dont try to disguise the fact that the only reason you ride on a motorcycle is that you don't fit in cars.

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094785)
do you believe a request for clarification is a challenge?

i notice your response didn't clarify anything

so you wish for me to say thank you because you deigned to respond to my request for clarification? without actually clarifying anything?

no, I'm saying you're opportunistic gfyer who simply looks for opportunities to try and gotcha others for absolutely no fucking reason.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094805)
no, I'm saying you're opportunistic gfyer who simply looks for opportunities to try and gotcha others for absolutely no fucking reason.

is that what you feel i try to do? perhaps i was merely trying to find some form of.. substance.. to your empty statements regarding rather established and respected writers.

is there another part of my character you wish to attack, in what seems to be a desperate attempt to move the conversation away from your seemingly lack of willingness to actually clarify your statements?

i mean, proverbially stamping your foot isn't actually clarifying anything

nor is attacking me going to change that.

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094813)
is that what you feel i try to do? perhaps i was merely trying to find some form of.. substance.. to your empty statements regarding rather established and respected writers.

is there another part of my character you wish to attack, in what seems to be a desperate attempt to move the conversation away from your seemingly lack of willingness to actually clarify your statements?

i mean, proverbially stamping your foot isn't actually clarifying anything

nor is attacking me going to change that.

I haven't attacked you. Quite the contrary. I respectfully answered your loaded question and factually pointed out your opportunistic posting style.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094818)
I haven't attacked you. Quite the contrary. I respectfully answered your loaded question and factually pointed out your opportunistic posting style.

dear sir!

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094805)
no, I'm saying you're opportunistic gfyer who simply looks for opportunities to try and gotcha others for absolutely no fucking reason.

you are.. politely attempting to convey your opinion on what you believe i am doing.. as way of showing me the errors of my ways?

i just wrote that, and even i cannot believe the level of euphemistic bullshit it involves.

qwe 05-21-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20094217)
I think it is time to kiss big oil goodbye.

Just need 10 years of hard science and innovation. Tidal..geo thermal, even solar. Then electric cars can take over.

right and what will exon, chevron, shell, bp, etc do? they will never let that happen, government officials are on their pay roll... funny how in europe/usa they want to come up with alternative energy and hurt Russia, but they don't realize a lot of countries in the west make a ton of money from oil/gas... let's take Canada, their whole economy is based on oil/gas, that idiot Harper needs to stfu

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094813)
is that what you feel i try to do? perhaps i was merely trying to find some form of.. substance.. to your empty statements regarding rather established and respected writers.

is there another part of my character you wish to attack, in what seems to be a desperate attempt to move the conversation away from your seemingly lack of willingness to actually clarify your statements?

i mean, proverbially stamping your foot isn't actually clarifying anything

nor is attacking me going to change that.

the funniest part of this is you obviously didn't even read the entire article, if you had, you'd see it's a weak attempt to show some nefarious plot to sell NG so the author could advance her agenda that it's wrong to sell NG due to methane and it distracts from her wish to switch to alternative fuels.

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094824)
dear sir!



you are.. politely attempting to convey your opinion on what you believe i am doing.. as way of showing me the errors of my ways?

i just wrote that, and even i cannot believe the level of euphemistic bullshit it involves.

you called me out, _RIchard_. Not the other way around. I posted my comment on the article, you had an issue with my doing that and made a prissy comment. I've handled that respectfully and articulately.

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094824)
dear sir!



you are.. politely attempting to convey your opinion on what you believe i am doing.. as way of showing me the errors of my ways?

i just wrote that, and even i cannot believe the level of euphemistic bullshit it involves.

that's an attack? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094832)
the funniest part of this is you obviously didn't even read the entire article, if you had, you'd see it's a weak attempt to show some nefarious plot to sell NG so the author could advance her agenda that it's wrong to sell NG due to methane and it distracts from her wish to switch to alternative fuels.

what is funny is you seem to not understand that in the province of BC, the LNG issues are coming up with our government budgets.

so,

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And most of all, it's important not to notice that building the infrastructure necessary to export gas on this scale would take many years in permitting and construction ? a single LNG terminal can carry a $7bn price tag, must be fed by a massive, interlocking web of pipelines and compressor stations, and requires its own power plant just to generate energy sufficient to liquefy the gas through super-cooling. By the time these massive industrial projects are up and running, Germany and Russia may well be fast friends.

(I hope I don't need to explain this to you, _RIchard_)
no, you don't need to explain this to me at all.. and to be frank, 7B in that part of the world is almost generous.

tell me, what experience do you have in building the infrastructure necessary for a LNG terminal

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094839)
that's an attack? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what do you call an argument directed at a person, and not a matter of hand?

i know this as an Ad Hominem argument, or, an attack on a persons character rather than.. ba you should probably just read it anyway

dyna mo 05-21-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094841)

tell me, what experience do you have in building the infrastructure necessary for a LNG terminal


Sure, I come from a family that's been in the o&g bidness for 2+ gens. When I graduated HS I didn't go straight to college, I went straight to work for my Uncle's o&g construction business building the very first shale oil retort plant in the USA, google it. This was beginning in 1982 and retort was the precurser tech to the current fracking tech. My brother in law currently overseesthe entire NG gas production infrastructure for the entire midwest region for conocophillips, based out of NM. My uncle now is currently the CEO of a NG fracking outfit based in Houston. My Mom, eh, what's the point I could go on.

You're welcome. :1orglaugh

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094858)
Sure, I come from a family that's been in the o&g bidness for 2+ gens. When I graduated HS I didn't go straight to college, I went straight to work for my Uncle's o&g construction business building the very first shale oil retort plant in the USA, google it. This was beginning in 1982 and retort was the precurser tech to the current fracking tech. My brother in law currently overseesthe entire NG gas production infrastructure for the entire midwest region for conocophillips, based out of NM. My uncle now is currently the CEO of a NG fracking outfit based in Houston. My Mom, eh, what's the point I could go on.

You're welcome. :1orglaugh

so your family makes money raping the earth for useless, explosive oil, that has already killed how many americans?

and you think 7b is an incorrect number? :)

EonBlue 05-21-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20094686)
IN Europe many cars are using LPG, but most important is that industry is using it. With price up, final products will be more expensive.

Ya, some vehicles use it here too - mostly fleet vehicles, taxis, etc. Not many regular cars use it. Price of NG is going up because of increased demand due to the reduction in use of coal power.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094860)
so your family makes money raping the earth for useless, explosive oil, that has already killed how many americans?

You currently live in a period that is the most prosperous and has the highest quality of life for more people on the planet than at any other time in history.

Most of that prosperity and quality of life is due directly to our exploitation of fossil fuels. Despite that you are somehow able to come up with the notion that it is "useless" and that we are "raping" the earth for it? What natural resource do we not "rape" the earth for?

Go ahead and try to live your life without utilizing any product derived from oil. Maybe you'll be able to find a nice warm cave somewhere.

God damn some people just make no sense.

Vendzilla 05-21-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20094797)
dont try to disguise the fact that the only reason you ride on a motorcycle is that you don't fit in cars.

Don't disguise the fact that the only way you can talk like to anyone is that your address can't be traced to you because you live in your moms basement.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20095009)



You currently live in a period that is the most prosperous and has the highest quality of life for more people on the planet than at any other time in history.

Most of that prosperity and quality of life is due directly to our exploitation of fossil fuels. Despite that you are somehow able to come up with the notion that it is "useless" and that we are "raping" the earth for it? What natural resource do we not "rape" the earth for?

Go ahead and try to live your life without utilizing any product derived from oil. Maybe you'll be able to find a nice warm cave somewhere.

God damn some people just make no sense.

that's probably due to how you interpret what you read.

am i talking about all fossil fuels, or just LNG?

edit: sorry, LPG

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094860)
so your family makes money raping the earth for useless, explosive oil, that has already killed how many americans?

and you think 7b is an incorrect number? :)

again, you claim I attack you when I state you are an opportunistic poster yet when I respectfully answer another question you posed to me, you spin my answer around to make this comment about my family?


:1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20095034)
that's probably due to how you interpret what you read.

am i talking about all fossil fuels, or just LNG?

edit: sorry, LPG

when you are bringing my family into it, you refer to it as oil.

HOOKUPBOSS 05-21-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20094193)
DONE deal - 30yrs , 38BCM/year ->


It will be much more expensive. :( EU needs Russian gas but Russia no longer needs Europe as a customer after 2018

<-- false
they found oil in alaska and texas thats why the eu is like fuck russian oil thats why things are getting testy

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:06 PM

_Richard_ thinks he's so clever, first he schemes to corner me into admitting I don't know wtf I'm talking about re: NG, but when I respectfully reply to that inquiry and fill him in on that, he simply drops that angle and picks up a new one- my family of murderers and earth rapers.

hahahahahahahahahahah, that's _Richard_

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095062)
again, you claim I attack you when I state you are an opportunistic poster yet when I respectfully answer another question you posed to me, you spin my answer around to make this comment about my family?


:1orglaugh

well, it's more to underline the fact you have vested interest in anything she says to be wrong

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095069)
_Richard_ thinks he's so clever, first he schemes to corner me into admitting I don't know wtf I'm talking about re: NG, but when I respectfully reply to that inquiry and fill him in on that, he simply drops that angle and picks up a new one- my family of murderers and earth rapers.

hahahahahahahahahahah, that's _Richard_

schemes?

have you lost your mind?

well, considering, nevermind

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20095075)
well, it's more to underline the fact you have vested interest in anything she says to be wrong

I know this is gfy but that doesn't mean 3rd grade logic works in every case, you had no idea what my interest was with my initial review of her biased opinion column.

So yes, feel free to try and get the thread readers to think you had a master plan here to reveal my agenda but just realize you're pretty much the only buying your schtick.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095097)
I know this is gfy but that doesn't mean 3rd grade logic works in every case, you had no idea what my interest was with my initial review of her biased opinion column.

So yes, feel free to try and get the thread readers to think you had a master plan here to reveal my agenda but just realize you're pretty much the only buying your schtick.

does it matter? you and your family make money in an industry she and a great deal of other people are fighting against.

whatever you think your reasons are, it really doesn't matter at this point, does it

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20095100)
does it matter? you and your family make money in an industry she and a great deal of other people are fighting against.

whatever you think your reasons are, it really doesn't matter at this point, does it

what does what matter? that you think you gotcha'd me? YOu mean like exactly what I was saying you do? opportunistically try to gotcha people for no reason.


btw, I make money exploiting nekked girls :warning and choose to live green, not point my finger at others for doing so or not.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095110)
what does what matter? that you think you gotcha'd me? YOu mean like exactly what I was saying you do? opportunistically try to gotcha people for no reason.


btw, I make money exploiting nekked girls :warning and choose to live green, not point my finger at others for doing so or not.

dude, we are having a pointless discussion on the internet. no one is trying to 'gotcha' you

alright, this is a waste of time, ill be sure to avoid 'gotcha'ing' you in the future. :disgust

dyna mo 05-21-2014 02:44 PM

yes, that's why when I answered your question re: my experience with NG your retort was to characterize my family as murderers and rapists.

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095114)
yes, that's why when I answered your question re: my experience with NG your retort was to characterize my family as murderers and rapists.

i never said anything about murder, i was referring to the seemingly endless stories of LNG explosions as it's transported around north american and the world, resulting in countless explosions and accidents that have caused the deaths of numerous people.

you called that murder.

in regards to the raping comment..

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/19/do...e-earthquakes/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/env...c-fracking.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/environme...na-texas-brine

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcma...m-at-landfill/

which, has the headline of: 'Fracking Truck Sets Off Radiation Alarm At Landfill'

considering the amount of deregulation, propaganda, and disinfo that surrounds this industry, i feel i am a little justified in using such a heavy word.

dyna mo 05-21-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20094860)
so your family makes money raping the earth for useless, explosive oil, that has already killed how many americans?

Yes, killing in this context does not = murder. :upsidedow

_Richard_ 05-21-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20095157)
Yes, killing in this context does not = murder. :upsidedow

so you're saying the shoe fits.. i think so too

dyna mo 05-21-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20095161)
so you're saying the shoe fits.. i think so too


o0o00o0oo000o!
you got me good huh!


_Richard_ 05-21-2014 03:18 PM

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu9/ST53/Gotcha.gif

Aka_Bluey 05-21-2014 03:20 PM

Australia could be worried about this deal...

2MuchMark 05-21-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20094217)
I think it is time to kiss big oil goodbye.

Just need 10 years of hard science and innovation. Tidal..geo thermal, even solar. Then electric cars can take over.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20094537)
Natural gas is used mostly for heating homes, not powering cars.

Pheonix didn't mention Thermal.


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Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20094548)
anyone using gas is a moron and retarded psychopath should seek help immediately.

You guys need to start thinking green.

Woohoo!!!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094549)
that's the stupidest fucking gfy comment I've read in a while.

Why? Gas is dirty and expensive and inefficient. It pollutes the air and water during manufacturing, usage and even dripped from the gas station. Buying Gas puts money into foreign countries that hate you. Why not go electric?


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Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20094564)
why? You guys are paying for gas while there are plenty of alternatives , cheaper ones. start being smart

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20094586)
these politicized go green gfy peeps crack me up. To think that by acting elite, pointing your finger at those you think are less than, calling them a few names will get them to go green?

think about how backwards that is. If you want people to NOT go green, ever, keep it up.

No one is acting elitist. Electricity is better source of energy for cars. If anything, you are the one acting elitist because you are putting green people down without any facts to sustain your beliefs other than, they are your beliefs.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20094694)
LOL, think green

My Harley gets 40 mpg, about the same as most Hybrids and it's a lot cooler and more fun to ride and I get to ride it in the diamond lane!!




Hold on there, Skippy: Your bike is alot lighter than a car so of course its going to get better gas millage. But only 40 MPG? Seems kind of shitty for a bike. But don't paint your face green just yet. Motor Cycles pollute more than cars do, even though bikes use less gas. What do you have against polar bears anyway?


PS: I sold my V8 Camaro and ordered a Chevy Volt. No kidding! Expecting delivery any day. Can't wait! Electric is COOL. Gas is not. Cheers!

crockett 05-21-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20094207)
330 billions? Nice contract, and one big FUCK OFF to fucking stupid europe! I will burn woods next winter, but fuck ya its back to nature style

It's over 30 years... That's chicken scratch for the oil and gas industry in 2013 BP made 350 billion that's nearly this contract for a single year not 10. Yes it's a nice contract, but it's not going to replace sales to Europe..

just a punk 05-21-2014 11:22 PM

So not on-topic posts here? :)

dyna mo 05-22-2014 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20095178)



Why? Gas is dirty and expensive and inefficient. It pollutes the air and water during manufacturing, usage and even dripped from the gas station. Buying Gas puts money into foreign countries that hate you. Why not go electric?



Read the thread, I never said anything about not going electric and in fact I've never said anything about not going electric.


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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20095178)

No one is acting elitist. Electricity is better source of energy for cars. If anything, you are the one acting elitist because you are putting green people down without any facts to sustain your beliefs other than, they are your beliefs.

Yes, when someone calls other people names for using gas when they use green, that's elitist. the science is settled on that, **********. Umm, I wasn't the one putting people down, again, read the thread. the guy said anyone who uses gas is a retarded moron and I said that's the stupidiest fucking thing I've read here and it was at that point.

What's really nutty is you still haven't figured out I'm prolly the greenest mother fucker in here. I just don't flaunt that, show it off, act superior about it, expect others to do as I do and when they don't, act elite about it.

HOOKUPBOSS 05-22-2014 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20095178)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup



Pheonix didn't mention Thermal.




Woohoo!!!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup




Why? Gas is dirty and expensive and inefficient. It pollutes the air and water during manufacturing, usage and even dripped from the gas station. Buying Gas puts money into foreign countries that hate you. Why not go electric?




:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup




No one is acting elitist. Electricity is better source of energy for cars. If anything, you are the one acting elitist because you are putting green people down without any facts to sustain your beliefs other than, they are your beliefs.







Hold on there, Skippy: Your bike is alot lighter than a car so of course its going to get better gas millage. But only 40 MPG? Seems kind of shitty for a bike. But don't paint your face green just yet. Motor Cycles pollute more than cars do, even though bikes use less gas. What do you have against polar bears anyway?


PS: I sold my V8 Camaro and ordered a Chevy Volt. No kidding! Expecting delivery any day. Can't wait! Electric is COOL. Gas is not. Cheers!



Electric comes from coal? just as pollutant as oil.


bicycles and public transportation is the way to go until we go 100% solar and wind


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