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baddog 06-03-2014 12:08 PM

100 ways Rochard proves he cannot read

bronco67 06-03-2014 12:11 PM

Personally, my opinion (as a former member of the armed forces) on this soldier is that he appears to be a shitbird who abandoned his post -- and maybe that's a fact. But we can't have the attitude that there's some kind of justice in leaving him with the enemy. He needs to face a tribunal in the US, and if he's found guilty of desertion or whatever, then give him the firing squad.

directfiesta 06-03-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20109909)
at least one of the dudes exchanged for this soldier is behind the murder of 1000s of people.

They released George W. Bush !!!!!!

OMG...

directfiesta 06-03-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20110018)
Obama didn't even tell the afghan government they were releasing the Taliban inside their country.

Soldier yes, deserter NO

True, Obama did not inform the Afghan gov ... as the 5 Gitmoers were released in Quatar, not Afghanistan .

PS: cheese dick ... that made me laugh ... :)

dyna mo 06-03-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20110347)
They released George W. Bush !!!!!!

OMG...

this comment brought to you by a guy who doesn't even know what side of the street to ride a bicycle on.


:1orglaugh

Rochard 06-03-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20110269)
I hate to think that your ability to comprehend English is that poor, but apparently it is so.


I find it ironic that you get mad at Vendzilla for name calling yet you feel comfortable in lying about me.

I quoted your twice, word for word.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-03-2014 01:38 PM

When Bowe Bergdahl joined the military, it likely was not with the intention of deserting.

If indeed Bergdahl deserted, what caused that change in him? It is possible, that like many of his fellow soldiers, his combat experiences caused him to suffer a mental breakdown, and instead of committing suicide, he followed a different course?



Some of his thinking at the time is revealed in his last e-mail to his parents before his capture:

Quote:

Last e-mail to parents
On June 27, 2009, Bergdahl sent a final e-mail to his parents:

Quote:

The future is too good to waste on lies. And life is way too short to care for the damnation of others, as well as to spend it helping fools with their ideas that are wrong. I have seen their ideas and I am ashamed to even be american.[sic] The horror of the self-righteous arrogance that they thrive in. It is all revolting.
His e-mail went on to describe his disillusionment with the U.S. mission in Afghanistan:

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In the US Army you are cut down for being honest... but if you are a conceited brown nosing shit bag you will be allowed to do what ever you want, and you will be handed your higher rank... The system is wrong. I am ashamed to be an american. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools...I am sorry for everything here.

These people need help, yet what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they are nothing and that they are stupid, that they have no idea how to live.

We don't even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks... We make fun of them in front of their faces, and laugh at them for not understanding we are insulting them...I am sorry for everything. The horror that is america is disgusting...

:stoned

ADG

Rochard 06-03-2014 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20110273)
Personally, my opinion (as a former member of the armed forces) on this soldier is that he appears to be a shitbird who abandoned his post -- and maybe that's a fact. But we can't have the attitude that there's some kind of justice in leaving him with the enemy. He needs to face a tribunal in the US, and if he's found guilty of desertion or whatever, then give him the firing squad.

This is exactly my line of thinking. No matter what, he is not only a US Citizen but also a US Solider.

If we figure out he is guilty of desertion, then we'll give him the firing squad. (So not kidding either.)

Rochard 06-03-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20110270)
100 ways Rochard proves he cannot read

I quoted you twice, exactly what you said. Word for word.

Rochard 06-03-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20110357)
True, Obama did not inform the Afghan gov ... as the 5 Gitmoers were released in Quatar, not Afghanistan .

PS: cheese dick ... that made me laugh ... :)

Once again, Vendzilla doesn't read anything. He grabs a headline from his favorite Obama bashing site and accepts it as gospel. He has no clue of what's going on.

Rochard 06-03-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 20110382)
When Bowe Bergdahl joined the military, it likely was not with the intention of deserting.

If indeed Bergdahl deserted, what caused that change in him? It is possible, that like many of his fellow soldiers, his combat experiences caused him to suffer a mental breakdown, and instead of committing suicide, he followed a different course?



Some of his thinking at the time is revealed in his last e-mail to his parents before his capture:



:stoned

ADG

And this is sad and disappointing. Clearly this person was not cut out for life in the military.

When he says "In the Army they cut you down for being honest". The term I use to describe such people are "failure to adapt" (which seems to be a common military term). Most likely he disagreed with why were are in Afghanistan, and that's his right. But what he sees as the truth isn't what the vast majority of people see as the truth.

He just wasn't cut to be in the military, just like that guy that gave all of that info to wikileaks.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-03-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110403)

And this is sad and disappointing. Clearly this person was not cut out for life in the military.

When he says "In the Army they cut you down for being honest". The term I use to describe such people are "failure to adapt" (which seems to be a common military term). Most likely he disagreed with why were are in Afghanistan, and that's his right. But what he sees as the truth isn't what the vast majority of people see as the truth.

He just wasn't cut to be in the military, just like that guy that gave all of that info to wikileaks.

http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/...ein-342052.jpg

An alternative view is that perhaps the US military (and all militaries) need way more people who think like Bowe Bergdahl and Bradley Manning... :2 cents: :winkwink:

:stoned

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bronco67 06-03-2014 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110384)
This is exactly my line of thinking. No matter what, he is not only a US Citizen but also a US Solider.

If we figure out he is guilty of desertion, then we'll give him the firing squad. (So not kidding either.)

The problem is that no matter how this played out, conservatives would find the angle that gives them a new scandal.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-03-2014 02:17 PM

You don't know Bowe...



:stoned

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Vendzilla 06-03-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20110357)
True, Obama did not inform the Afghan gov ... as the 5 Gitmoers were released in Quatar, not Afghanistan .

PS: cheese dick ... that made me laugh ... :)

He is a cheese dick, isn't that what Canadians eat?

Sorry, got it wrong, what's correct is Afghanistan is where Bergdahl was being held

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110392)
Once again, Vendzilla doesn't read anything. He grabs a headline from his favorite Obama bashing site and accepts it as gospel. He has no clue of what's going on.

Fuck you shit for brains, you still think Palin said I can see Russia from my house

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20110429)
The problem is that no matter how this played out, conservatives would find the angle that gives them a new scandal.

They don't need to, Obama is making new ones just fine by himself

Fast and Furious
Keep your policy
keep your doctor
Benghazi
IRS
NSA
VA hospital
Letting dangerous terrorist back into the world

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 20110435)
You don't know Bowe...



:stoned

ADG

I don't want to know him, it's clear what he is by what the soldiers in his unit are saying

Grapesoda 06-03-2014 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20109212)
He was an American soldier, end of story. You get him home then deal with any issues that pertain to his service agreement. John McComplain is just a pampas jerkoff whom has long ago over used his POW status.. He should just go retire and quit acting like a bag of dicks.

no exactly... been hearing the word 'deserter' pass around a bit :(

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 02:43 PM


dyna mo 06-03-2014 02:44 PM

ANyone able to snoop out why Obama didn't alert congress as per the law? This wasn't some top secret extraction, shit's been negotiating for years.



I googed around but couldn't track down anything

This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind limber.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 02:46 PM

So everyone that's so concerned about getting this traitor home but what do I hear about the VA hospital waiting lists that killed a bunch of vets? Nothing!

Man you guys have your head so firmly up Obama's ass, you haven't seen the daylight of his deeds in 5 years now!

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20110473)
ANyone able to snoop out why Obama didn't alert congress as per the law? This wasn't some top secret extraction, shit's been negotiating for years.



I googed around but couldn't track down anything

This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you's. And, uh, lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head. Luckily I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug regimen to keep my mind limber.

He's prepping his pen for the executive order to vacate GITMO.

He's a bad leader, if he was a good one, it would have been done right

MaDalton 06-03-2014 02:50 PM

seriously, Vendzilla, when I see you complain one more time about someone calling you names...



... i am going to invent some very special ones just for you.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20110480)
seriously, Vendzilla, when I see you complain one more time about someone calling you names...



... i am going to invent some very special ones just for you.

Take a look buddy, they are calling me out, I have a simple rule, call me out and you get what you get.

The people that I'm calling names are putting me down, so they get what they get.

Mark Prince is a cheese dick, anyone that would call Canada home and complain about the republicans in our country to the extent he does is a cheese dick.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=cheese+dick


And Rochard, he keeps telling everyone he has me on ignore but he sure seems to get into it with me a lot, don't you think?

Bit of a trollish behavior

crockett 06-03-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20109792)
This whole thing makes me sick, by giving up 5 top leaders of the Taliban for one of our deserters, we have empowered the Taliban and all terrorist. Anything that any president has done in the past like this has little to do with it, because of this being made so public.......

Oh the outrage. Oh my god, Obama, Obama, Obama.. It's pretty sad that Republicans will play fake political games over the release of a US soldier whom was held captive. You would think that if there was one thing fuck head republicans could get behind would be supporting our troops. Those in service, out of service and those whom were captive.

Why do you hate the troops serving this country Vendzilla? You do what ever you have to do, to get our guys back, end of story. If you weren't such a rage filled asshat you might of seen the release of an American soldier as a good thing. But no Fox News tells you to be outraged so you bitch and moan like a good little brainless minion.

crockett 06-03-2014 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20110480)
seriously, Vendzilla, when I see you complain one more time about someone calling you names...



... i am going to invent some very special ones just for you.

I vote for Vendildo.. The guy is just a raged filled asshat, there is no communicating with him.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 03:28 PM

And I see that Crock of shit is posting after me, probably has something stupid to say, but he knows I have him on ignore.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 03:32 PM

You know, I'm still waiting to hear from the outrage over the VA hospital waiting lists. I see none. Liberals here are picking and choosing their fights. Obama promised to fix this, 5 years later, it's worse, they have been talking about this for a while and nothing is done.
Vets should be treated better than that Mr President and traitors should not be treated that good!

Bryan G 06-03-2014 03:52 PM

Do you guys work? How much time do you waste arguing on GFY about your favorite "team"

They are all the same and if you cannot see it you are retarded.

crockett 06-03-2014 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20110470)
no exactly... been hearing the word 'deserter' pass around a bit :(

It does not matter, he can be a deserter or a traitor, but he is still an American soldier until he is court marshaled or discharged. There is no ifs ans or buts.. He is still a solder and our govt had to responsibility to do whatever it takes to get him back. He can be judged later, but as a captive he was still,a soldier.

crockett 06-03-2014 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendildo (Post 20110534)
And I see that Crock of shit is posting after me, probably has something stupid to say, but he knows I have him on ignore.

Yet you still read everything I say..

baddog 06-03-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110381)
I quoted your twice, word for word.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110390)
I quoted you twice, exactly what you said. Word for word.

Yet you felt the need to totally misrepresent what I said. Word for word.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20110585)
Do you guys work? How much time do you waste arguing on GFY about your favorite "team"

They are all the same and if you cannot see it you are retarded.

I just hate Obama, I don't have a favorite team, I don't like any of them.

As far as work, I have 2 screens open

tony286 06-03-2014 04:32 PM

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5439644?1401826016. how the right play you guys.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20110639)

I really don't give a rats ass who backed it and who didn't. Trading terrorist for a deserter was wrong. Doing so without the Afghan government was wrong, since he was captive there.

directfiesta 06-03-2014 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20110649)
Doing so without the Afghan government was wrong, since he was captive there.

I really don`t get our outrage about not '' consulting/informing '' the Afghan government ... really strange ...

Since when the USA gives a fuck about another government ( aside from Israhell) when they have their agenda ...

Did they ask Pakistan before the OBL raid ? No .....

What surprises me as well is that Obama, as good a liar as he is , did not twist this thing in a fantastic rescue operation, like the Jessica Lynch Movie of the week ....

Anyway ... I dont give a shit about the POW or the Gitmo guys ... they could have all stayed were they were and rot away :2 cents:

TampaToker 06-03-2014 09:19 PM

Truth of the matter is no one really knows what happened with this guy. But its really a sad day when i see our own military turn on this guy with out knowing wtf happened. No one seen him walk off or seen him captured but all these arm chair politicians think the know it all on here.

The Army did not have him listed as a deserter but as a pow and while he was captured he got two promotions if i remember right. Correct me if i am wrong but does the military give promotions to someone who is listed as a deserter?

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 20110871)
Truth of the matter is no one really knows what happened with this guy. But its really a sad day when i see our own military turn on this guy with out knowing wtf happened. No one seen him walk off or seen him captured but all these arm chair politicians think the know it all on here.

The Army did not have him listed as a deserter but as a pow and while he was captured he got two promotions if i remember right. Correct me if i am wrong but does the military give promotions to someone who is listed as a deserter?

From what I have read about the others in his unit, he deserted. During war time, that's being put to death offence. It's that serious. Says it right in the UCMJ.

Vendzilla 06-03-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20110709)
I really don`t get our outrage about not '' consulting/informing '' the Afghan government ... really strange ...

Since when the USA gives a fuck about another government ( aside from Israhell) when they have their agenda ...

Did they ask Pakistan before the OBL raid ? No .....

What surprises me as well is that Obama, as good a liar as he is , did not twist this thing in a fantastic rescue operation, like the Jessica Lynch Movie of the week ....

Anyway ... I dont give a shit about the POW or the Gitmo guys ... they could have all stayed were they were and rot away :2 cents:

My outrage is about the way it was done, with no concern about putting more terrorist back in the world, by the way he dealed with what is suppose to be our ally and the fact that this guy we got back, is a deserter, which in my book is lower than a politician.

And it sticks me hard that this is just something to stop us from talking about Obama's major fuck up with the VA hospitals. Something he promised he was going to fix.

Rochard 06-03-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20110429)
The problem is that no matter how this played out, conservatives would find the angle that gives them a new scandal.

I just drove down to Beverly Hills for the weekend (Swanky!) and on the way down I was thinking.... "Damned if you don't, damned if you do". This was just a no win situation. If he didn't do anything or went to Congress to give thirty days notice, this would have dragged out, ended in disaster, and the President would have looked bad. On the other hand, he moved forward with it.... And we all see what's happening.

Someone mentioned that Obama did this by executive order and it's obvious why - This way he's covered so that the Republican party cannot make a stink about it.

Rochard 06-03-2014 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20110068)
He gave up that right when he signed up to be a soldier, you know that. He specifically signed away his rights to a trial as an American, a military court decides matters pertaining.

Not at all. He still has the right to a trial.

Rochard 06-03-2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20110609)
Yet you felt the need to totally misrepresent what I said. Word for word.

Here is a link to the post where I quoted you word for word:
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20109982&postcount=64

I know you are old and your eyes hurt, but try using your glasses.

I'm getting tired of repeating myself.

Rochard 06-03-2014 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20110590)
It does not matter, he can be a deserter or a traitor, but he is still an American soldier until he is court marshaled or discharged. There is no ifs ans or buts.. He is still a solder and our govt had to responsibility to do whatever it takes to get him back. He can be judged later, but as a captive he was still,a soldier.

I was listening to the news on my way down and McCain was interviewed. He said something to the effect of "We don't send troops into harm's way to rescue POWs". McCain was a POW in Vietnam, and he knows damn well we sent troops in to rescue handfuls of POWs. I just read a book called D-Days of the Pacific that detailed how they sent in troops deep into enemy territory ahead of the main force to rescue POWs.

I lost all respect for McCain. When he was Governor of Arizona he was great. He went to Vietnam, called them gooks, and had no fucking regrets. He was getting nailed hard in the press but he stuck to his guns saying "Politically correct is one thing, but the gooks locked up me and tortured me for five years".

What a horrible and evil thing for a former US Navy pilot and POW to say. Sure thing, we'll just shrug our shoulders and look the other way from now on.

TampaToker 06-03-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20110888)
From what I have read about the others in his unit, he deserted. During war time, that's being put to death offence. It's that serious. Says it right in the UCMJ.

Truth is no one knows what happened yet. Now this guy has been blaster as a deserter
in the media

"Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl will face an investigation and a potential court martial if the Army finds that he deserted his unit in Afghanistan, Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said Tuesday. The 28-year-old Bergdahl was "innocent until proven guilty," Dempsey said. However, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff promised that "our Army's leaders will not look away from misconduct if it occurred."


Now if he is found guilty put him to death. But who are we to judge this guy we were not there and we don't know the facts. Hell the people that were there don't wtf happened all they know was he was gone.

Was also wondering what you think should happen to the guys who signed the non disclosure agreement with the Army agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. I see they are all over all the
media outlets right now

TampaToker 06-03-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20110904)

Someone mentioned that Obama did this by executive order and it's obvious why - This way he's covered so that the Republican party cannot make a stink about it.

Yes it was done by a executive order but there will be stink about that lol

tony286 06-04-2014 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 20110871)
Truth of the matter is no one really knows what happened with this guy. But its really a sad day when i see our own military turn on this guy with out knowing wtf happened. No one seen him walk off or seen him captured but all these arm chair politicians think the know it all on here.

The Army did not have him listed as a deserter but as a pow and while he was captured he got two promotions if i remember right. Correct me if i am wrong but does the military give promotions to someone who is listed as a deserter?

Yes you are right and its very interesting.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5437738.html
"On Tuesday, BuzzFeed identified Richard Grenell, who once served as an aide to U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton and later worked for Mitt Romney?s 2012 presidential campaign, as playing a key role in publicizing Bergdahl's critics."

Vendzilla 06-04-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 20110930)

Was also wondering what you think should happen to the guys who signed the non disclosure agreement with the Army agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. I see they are all over all the
media outlets right now

I'm more concerned about the asshat that made them sign a non disclosure agreement to be honest. I have never heard of a NDA used in the military. Except when you are discharged. I had a secret clearance and signed one when I got out. They have time limits.

Having deserters during war time doesn't look good to command.

2MuchMark 06-04-2014 07:32 AM

Republicans hate Obama because he is BLACK.

TampaToker 06-04-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20111411)
Republicans hate Obama because he is BLACK.

Dude stop with that fucking bullshit! It accomplishes nothing and is not true. All you do on here is stir up bullshit.

EonBlue 06-04-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20111411)
Republicans hate Obama because he is BLACK.

That's bullshit. With a mentality like that it pretty much means that he is beyond criticism because any criticism will be deemed to be racist. A leader who can't be criticized for anything can do pretty much whatever he wants. He might as well be Kim Jong-un.

Besides that he's not black he's mulatto. Describing him as black only is racist in itself.

Rochard 06-04-2014 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20111411)
Republicans hate Obama because he is BLACK.

I don't know if that is the case or not, but if it is, the American public is in for a few surprises. It's very possible Hillary will win, and after that it's highly likely that we will have a Hispanic in office.

One of my good friends is married to a black man, and has two children with him. (One of them is my godson.) It's odd because she was a Republican through and through and the moment Obama ran she completely switched over to the other side. I think it's because of the racial issue.


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