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mineistaken 06-25-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 20136899)
He is 6 feet tall and weighs about 160lbs, he does not need to lose 20lbs lol. He needs to stop eating the shit he does, I have no idea how the hell he stays slim with his diet, it's incredible.

Not that incredible, many people do so. Not majority of course, but plenty :)

brassmonkey 06-25-2014 01:31 PM

eat another 10 pound bag of chocolate it will go done or something else :evil-laug

Barry-xlovecam 06-25-2014 01:31 PM

One other thing, make sure your doctor orders a liver function blood test

regulation of cholesterol homeostasis by liver x receptors
https://www.google.com/search?q=regu...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Naughty 06-25-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20136797)
Skinny != good cholesterol levels.

I actually didn't know that. Maybe i should get tested.

I live pretty unhealthy, i do walk a lot, i have a 7 y/o who keeps me playing soccer daily and whatnot, but i drink lots of coffee, drink wine, lots of coke and sugar in everything and lots and lots of candy. Lots of pasta, red meat.

I'm 42, hoping to pass 90 one day;-)

dyna mo 06-25-2014 01:42 PM

I would also ask your doctor about your testosterone levels. The link between cholesterol and testosterone is profound, each requires, helps and builds off the other. Men's cholesterol health is to be evaluated much differently than women's due to this.

CDSmith 06-25-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 20136899)
He is 6 feet tall and weighs about 160lbs, he does not need to lose 20lbs lol. He needs to stop eating the shit he does, I have no idea how the hell he stays slim with his diet, it's incredible.

Then he can just add in or subtract from my food list what he wants, but following what I said will still benefit a guy like him immensely. He's lucky then if he needs no weight loss, all he needs to do is adjust the way he eats, and just add in some healthier snacking throughout the day.

One thing that can keep a guy like that slim is youth. Plenty of people enjoy years of eating whatever crap they want and never gain weight, that is... until they start approaching their 40's. Then metabolism almost always overtakes them and they either change their ways or they blow up like the hindenburg. A warning though -- having a poor diet like that for so many years can (and almost always does) net you a huge risk for developing other health problems. Heart problems, circulation problems, digestion and gastro-intenstinal problems, etc etc. Yay! Let's all hit the McDeath's drive-thruuuu!!!

Seriously, I don't even look at the chip, cookie and cracker aisle any more at the supermarket. I'm all about the other stuff I mentioned these days. I'm especially stuck on pink grapefruit, I have a few slices of it just about every day.

We Build Websites 06-25-2014 01:57 PM

1) drink plenty of water... 2-3 liters per day
2) eat boiled food instead of fried
3) more chicken, fish and beef instead of pork and similar
4) sea fish and olive oil
5) cut on sugar
6) dont eat after 10pm

tasteless but gives results...

woj 06-25-2014 02:00 PM

so how high was it? was he talking about total cholesterol?

mineistaken 06-25-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by We Build Websites (Post 20136986)
4) sea fish and olive oil

What about freshwater fish?

Choopa Phil 06-25-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20136999)
What about freshwater fish?

Freshwater fish is great too. Fresh water salmon <3

dillonaire 06-25-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136617)
Think of most fatty foods.

And cakes. And plenty of them.


As i say though, it's because it's what i like and i never seem to put on weight...


Quit eating processed food. I have a saying. Only buy from the outside of the supermarket. All the shit in the middle will kill you.

Scott McD 06-26-2014 05:21 AM

The people who are saying "quit this food and that food", would you share what your usual daily food intake looks like to give me an idea since i will be changing my diet completely ?

bronco67 06-26-2014 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136866)
Fuck. Nothing is ever straight forward.

I shall be doing some reading over the next few days...

By the way, I meant to say "diet NOT linked", but I think you got it.

DamianJ 06-26-2014 06:23 AM

My advice is not to take any advice whatsoever from people on a message board.

(Excluding the above post).

HandyAndy 06-26-2014 06:42 AM

I also have high cholesterol. I am 31. I am very active in sports and am fit. I have had high cholesterol even as a kid and was 3x more active atleast then any kid is now a days. Some times its just how a person's liver is from all the tests I went threw. I do have to take RX cause of it and it has helped.
Fiber is a big thing
Fish oils like was mentioned
No White Bread or sugar, starch stuff
lecithin supplement
Eat like a diebetic

mineistaken 06-26-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20137753)
The people who are saying "quit this food and that food", would you share what your usual daily food intake looks like to give me an idea since i will be changing my diet completely ?

Meat, vegetables, rice, fish etc. You can mix recipes, plenty of them so you do not get bored.

wehateporn 06-26-2014 07:10 AM

You need sunlight to convert the Cholesterol into Vitamin D :2 cents:

Spunky 06-26-2014 07:11 AM

You need the Metamucil in your diet.more fiber
http://www.metamucil.com/

HandyAndy 06-26-2014 07:19 AM

I agree Fiber is big thing
Flax Seed mix that with some low fat yogurt for breakfast.
metamucil like spunky said.
Fiber is often over looked

Cherry7 06-26-2014 07:36 AM

I seem to remember you like the Muslim culture, maybe fasting in Ramadan would be both a help and a pleasure to you.

Tom_PM 06-26-2014 07:53 AM

I could tell you what I eat, but the cholesterol numbers don't tell the full story. I had a second heart episode just last month! No blockages or issues with plaque build up and no new hardware installed. A study was done to make sure my heart could find it's rhythm on it's own too. I was this close to having an implanted defibrillator but as the doctor said "you dodged a bullet."

You know what raises good cholesterol and lowers bad plus has no detractors? Exercise. It's just about the only thing I don't get enough of too.

I think it's time to get off the chair and do something. How about gardening a few plants you can add to your diet? Spinach grows fast and well anywhere unless it's too hot for example. Or just going for a good 20 minute walk each day.

mineistaken 06-26-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20137894)
I seem to remember you like the Muslim culture, maybe fasting in Ramadan would be both a help and a pleasure to you.

Nope, he does not like Camel jockey culture. So you are wrong again as you are in many of your posts. :2 cents:

PR_Glen 06-26-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20137753)
The people who are saying "quit this food and that food", would you share what your usual daily food intake looks like to give me an idea since i will be changing my diet completely ?

Last night I had some leftover roasted chicken. I was going to make a simple chicken salad with some fresh vegetables but figured i'd try something a bit more fun. Did a spinach jambalaya. Basically just a stir fry you add sausage and sassafrass (gumbo file) to. seafood too if you got any available.

pulled apart chicken into chunks, pealed the skin. used 2 spicy italian sausages grilled and sliced, green peppers, green onions, tomato past, pimento paste (siracha works instead), sassafrass, cayenne (only if you like it spicy, was good without) then add spinach and crushed garlic in the last few minutes, i use this instead of rice, which doesn't work for my low carb diet.

inexpensive, about 10 bucks worth of ingredients and only took 15 mins to prep and cook--and low on sugars.

for dining out or delivery I generally stick with salads with meats and low sugars, greek salads are perfect for my diet, loaded with antioxidants too. for snacks i stick with nuts and seeds, although celery with some dip is a nice change.

AdultB2B 06-28-2014 01:37 AM

Start eating lean meats, fish, veggies and fruit and your cholesterol will drop like a rock! Cut down on fatty foods and don't eat anything that's fried.

Lipitor is also a wonder drug. Cholesterol can also be hereditary.

Barry-xlovecam 06-28-2014 05:02 AM

After reading this post I bought another book that is a very interesting approach.

Not saying that what this Cardiologist says is gospel but I found collaborating evidence of his assertions that the supplemental use of these energy-supplying nutrients is supplemental to deficiencies that Statins and Beta blockers cause in their natural production.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supp...g/hrb-20059019
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple... tName=RIBOSE
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...me=L-CARNITINE

L-carnitine is of particular interest ...

These are supplements and not replacements for accepted prescriptions like Lipitor but some of these supplements lower blood sugar, are thought to lower cholesterol levels, aid in circulation and heart diastolic function, etc. .

The Sinatra Solution
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004JZXGQW/...8080_TE_M1T1DP
Kindle Edition

$9.34

Barry-xlovecam 06-28-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20138433)
[u]sed 2 spicy italian sausages grilled and sliced, ...

I cut it down to ONE sausage -- more veggies(fill :winkwink:). One Italian sausage is 15% of your daily allowance of cholesterol -- adds up fast.

If your body (liver function) does not regulate dietary cholesterol to optimum levels, some people can regulate dietary cholesterol, you need to cut dietary cholesterol maybe to 70% of the allowed daily levels.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newswe...holesterol.htm

Your body can produce cholesterol from many low-cholesterol foods, and if your body's cholesterol production is out of wack, that is where Statins like Lipitor (and in lower doses Zocor (simvastatin)) come in.

Relentless 06-28-2014 05:28 AM

http://www.soylent.me

/problemsolved

NewNick 06-28-2014 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136555)
Time to change my diet methinks :helpme


I had blood tests taken a week ago and the doctor who called me back today with the results used the term "sky high" when describing my cholesterol levels. So i guess that should be reason enough to make some changes.

My diet has always been terrible, but i never seen to put on any weight. I think i have been the same weight since my early 20's. It's because of that, i always just eat what i like. I don't smoke.



Now to work out a new food plan... :Oh crap

Glasgow - not really known for its healthy lifestyle.

Dont you have the worst life expectancy in the western world ?

Barry-xlovecam 06-28-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20140246)
http://www.soylent.me

/problemsolved

There is only one problem: Brain chemistry.

Our brains want food to have taste and texture. So, you would have to reprogram your brain to believe that crap tastes like food ... In essence, "soylent" is a flavored chemical soup -- yum, yum ... Bon Appétit!

Relentless 06-28-2014 07:53 AM

Barry,

You just described all evolution ;)

Barry-xlovecam 06-28-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20140320)
Barry,

You just described all evolution ;)

Maybe in 100,000 years after we exhaust the food resources on the planet.

Meantime they are selling this crap for $100.00 a case HAHA, good luck ...

Aside: I had real food for lunch
BLT made with:
Turkey bacon
(3 slices 75 calories 12% daily cholesterol).
2 slices of 15 Grain Brownberry whole wheat toast
(200 calories 0% daily cholesterol 0 grams Sugars Dietary Fiber 8 grams or 32% of the daily recommendation.
(Fiber that increases you HDL "good" cholesterol levels as compared to LDL -- "bad" cholesterol that clots your arteries, HDL Cholesterol actually reverses the plaque deposits caused by LDL cholesterol.)
And I cheated with 2 tsp of real Mayo,
some lettuce and tomato.



So, 500 +- Calories (more than normal but I will work on the lawn and gardens here later this afternoon -- not sit and work at my desk all day) 14% of the daily cholesterol limit, A BLT that still tastes good in my mouth 15 minutes later instead of consuming some chemical slop ... Fuck evolution -- they sell that soya chemical slop and the customer gives up in 2 weeks after losing 10 pounds, then goes back to eating jelly doughnuts made with lards :1orglaugh

timmyc38 06-28-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136555)
Time to change my diet methinks :helpme


I had blood tests taken a week ago and the doctor who called me back today with the results used the term "sky high" when describing my cholesterol levels. So i guess that should be reason enough to make some changes.

My diet has always been terrible, but i never seen to put on any weight. I think i have been the same weight since my early 20's. It's because of that, i always just eat what i like. I don't smoke.



Now to work out a new food plan... :Oh crap

avoid fried foods and eggs -- take Omega 3 once a day .. this will help - check again after 60 days

cashewww 06-28-2014 02:28 PM

cut out eggs, bacon, sausages, processed meats, butter, cut down on cheese, etc...
get more fiber in your diet
exercise

Barry-xlovecam 06-28-2014 10:53 PM

  • Use egg substitute "egg beaters" or equivalent, or egg whites only. I have a little turkey bacon a few times a week.
  • Lean cooked ham that is no or low sugar is OK.
  • All meat has saturated fats and cholesterol. But beef has more cholesterol than chicken or lean pork (like pork loin).
  • Avoid dark meat poultry -- Legs, thighs, whole chickens.
  • Forget lobster, shrimp, crab, kidney, liver, or other organ meats.
  • Low fat 2% cheese in moderation -- 1 or 2 ounces in a day
  • Mozzarella skim milk cheese, Low fat or no fat cottage cheese. No fat Greek yoghurt with some chopped fresh fruit added.
  • Stir-fry with 4 - 6 ounces of pork loin or chicken breast -- that's one pork cutlet or one skinless chicken breast!
  • Lot of legumes or beans ... Whole grain products ... Parsnips, carrots, pears -- fibrous fruits and vegetables. Reduced fat or baked woven wheat cracker (trisquit) with home made hummus -- chick peas (AKA: garbanzo beans) are loaded with fiber
  • Sweet potato, raw - baked - no added butter or margarine: 16% of your daily dietary fiber.

TCLGirls 06-28-2014 11:04 PM

what's your blood pressure readings like?

Emil 06-29-2014 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20136621)
33 years old...

Low carb high fat (atkins), the best diet there is.

suesheboy 06-29-2014 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20136797)
Skinny != good cholesterol levels.

LOL at the PHP.

I have a seriously underweight vegan friend who cholesterol is through the roof. He is in his 70's, been a vegan form more than 30 years and does at least 5 miles a day on foot. He just has a shitty body.

Barry-xlovecam 06-29-2014 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 20141009)
LOL at the PHP.

I have a seriously underweight vegan friend who cholesterol is through the roof. He is in his 70's, been a vegan form more than 30 years and does at least 5 miles a day on foot. He just has a shitty body.

His liver functions at regulating cholesterol are out of whack ...
Statins can help but they can affect liver functions negatively sometimes -- at 70 if he has had no health problems he may be the exception to the rule.

Also a lot depends on the ratio and sum of the LDL and HDL Cholesterol. If the Total Cholesterol is real high like
Your Total Cholesterol of 293 is HIGH RISK
Your LDL of 110 is NEAR OPTIMAL
Your HDL of 160 is OPTIMAL
Your Triglyceride level of 115 is NORMAL
RATIOS:
Your Total Cholesterol/HDL ratio is: 1.72 - (preferably under 5.0, ideally under 3.5) IDEAL
Your HDL/LDL ratio is: 1.455 - (preferably over 0.3, ideally over 0.4) IDEAL
Your triglycerides/HDL ratio is: 0.156 - (preferably under 4, ideally under 2)
http://www.hughcalc.org/chol.php
I am assuming that Vegan means no animal products -- fish, eggs or milk.

Major (Tom) 06-29-2014 10:06 AM

Get your liver checked first & foremost. A full work up including hep a,b,c,d,e. Then the other tests they run ast and gst I think it's called. After the results discuss a plan of action with your doc. You def need a statin, in addition to laying off any booze, pills etc. Once that is done a complete lifestyle change is needed. Levels like yours need immediate intervention. Don't delay.
Be well & health to you
Duke

eroticsexxx 06-30-2014 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20136658)
start taking some fish oil pills regularly (especially if you don't eat fish already)

Krill oil specifically, if you go this route


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