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adultmobile 06-29-2014 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20140823)
2) No need for a processor like BitPay, which can (and has, apparently) exclude adult transactions.

Lots of adult sites use BitPay, or at least was using until short time ago - where is the source of this info that BitPay excluded adult transact?

By the way I was contacted by some https://www.gocoin.com guys , who was trying to get customers in adult market, I am sure they contacted a few others. They support litecoin and dogecoin too, so I was considering... but I asked them: your company is based in Singapore where it is illegal to deal with or bill for adult sites (provided them a link of Singapore laws). They said they will investigate the issue (like if they had no idea of this?), and not replied since, it is now several weeks.

To me, it looks like those bitcoin (and alt-coin) biller companies do this: setup, try to get everyone as merchant, then only later, they figure they have to drop several, including adult sites. For example Coinbase got $30 million funding by venture capital, what if some of these guys will not like articles about they fund porn processors? Coinbase willl then go the Apple Store way cleaning all the porn.

More than a problem of bitcoin or wankcoin, it is the matter of the biller or exchange company... those mainstream and venture funded may accept also adult sites first in order to make more numbers to show, but then kick out the dirt at later stage. Remember about adult that american express and paypal first billed for, then no more.

It makes most sense that adult billers or companies will setup whatever-coin billers at low fees, for bitcoin , litecoin or whatever for adult sites. Much like for dollars, everyone moves dollars, just some don't do for adult sites. Is not the dollar or bitcoin, is the bank and biller.

edgeprod 06-29-2014 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20140934)
I'm sorry man, but I'm guessing you have a significant stake in this coin.

None of the reasons you gave above held any weight or make much sense. You might have some luck convincing the very inexperienced, but anybody who's been around a bit will read that post and have a chuckle.

"2) The infrastructure for existing coins is exactly why a porn-industry-controlled coin was needed. On a whim, any of the providers could decide to not accept payments for adult, and anyone without the software to interact with the blockchain would be out in the cold, overnight."

Umm yeah.. Either you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Bitcoin is, or are just pretending not to understand. The attractive thing about Bitcoin is the way it's not controlled by anybody. You don't need to depend on 'providers' if you don't want to.

Having a "porn-industry-controlled coin" sounds like a massive waste of time, the only beneficiary is going to be the early insiders who dump their worthless coins to investors who don't understand crypto-currency and think this is anything other than a pump-and-dump.

I'll leave you guys be to do your thing, it's none of my business, but I feel obligated to call out an obvious swindle when I spot one. 99% chance this coin will be "dead" within 24 months max, simply because it makes no damn sense from any other perspective other than a money-maker for the creators via ill-informed investors. To be fair, they'll just lose their money somewhere else if not here.

You didn't really read anything I said. I don't own a single WankCoin. I offered to buy a 20% outstanding stake for 100 Bitcoins, but I do not currently own any.

I also said that those without direct Blockchain processing (which is virtually EVERYONE in adult) would be left out in the cold if their provider dropped adult.

It's like you completely ignored what I said, and pushed your own bizarre agenda. If you don't like it, don't use it.

Internet Guy 06-29-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20141282)
I also said that those without direct Blockchain processing (which is virtually EVERYONE in adult) would be left out in the cold if their provider dropped adult.

It's very simple to accept Bitcoins without using a provider. It would be a matter of creating a very simple script, this most likely already exists.

The biggest reason to use a provider today is usually, when companies want their sales revenue BTC converted directly to USD. Also, convenience. But in the event providers banned adult companies, it wouldn't be a big deal.

Plus - using WankCoin doesn't solve this problem. Are there any processors which convert WankCoins directly to USD for merchants? If not, than any simple script which accepts a crypto-coin would work just fine. There are no real advantages.. C'mon dude..

Ok sorry, I promised to leave.. Good luck man. I don't know what agenda you think I have but that's ok, i'm going to let you be now anyway :thumbsup

Internet Guy 06-29-2014 05:42 PM

I hope i didn't hurt anybody's feelings, and I guess as we covered, if you are actually going to invest money in this - than the 'Wallet Inspector' will have you at the next corner anyway. So it matters not. Fap away..

Penny24Seven 06-29-2014 06:09 PM

I like these threads and dislike at the same time. Time will tell

edgeprod 06-29-2014 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20141602)
I hope i didn't hurt anybody's feelings, and I guess as we covered, if you are actually going to invest money in this - than the 'Wallet Inspector' will have you at the next corner anyway. So it matters not. Fap away..

Not anymore than a hippie threatening to punch me in the aura. Don't sweat it -- there are fundamental things I've learned in adult that you may not have. We can agree to disagree.

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20141795)
Don't sweat it -- there are fundamental things I've learned in adult that you may not have.

Bwahahahahahaha. Yes, this may have happened.

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20141795)
We can agree to disagree.

Alright then, let's just bump this in a year or two eh? :winkwink:

I predict this particularly unimaginative bitcoin copy will be dead/totally worthless within 24 months, but more likely than that <12months or maybe even 6. It's a pathetic pump-and-dump style money making attempt, you've literally brought nothing but a marketing video to the table.

That's just my uneducated opinion.

Klen 06-30-2014 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20141858)
Bwahahahahahaha. Yes, this may have happened.



Alright then, let's just bump this in a year or two eh? :winkwink:

I predict this particularly unimaginative bitcoin copy will be dead/totally worthless within 24 months, but more likely than that <12months or maybe even 6. It's a pathetic pump-and-dump style money making attempt, you've literally brought nothing but a marketing video to the table.

That's just my uneducated opinion.

What if this post piss off founders and they throw millions of real money to promote it :upsidedow

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20141860)
What if this post piss off founders and they throw millions of real money to promote it :upsidedow

That would be pure awesome :thumbsup

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 01:53 AM

Also, if the person who made this has access to millions of dollars I'd be incredibly surprised. It brings absolutely __nothing__ to the table, worse it looks like a blatant scam.

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 01:56 AM

Btw, if you're so upset by the word Scam, than maybe you should stop trying to swindle the stupid.

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 02:12 AM

I look forward to watching this hustle play out. If it's not a hustle like I say, than ya'll have nothing to worry about.

If you are a small player and were tricked into thinking this was a good idea, than cover your ass now while you still can.

Internet Guy 06-30-2014 03:41 AM

Maybe I shouldn't be so rude and harsh.. Sorry guys.. Look, if you mean well than good luck. If you do, these posts won't hurt you either :) But if you are looking to extract a quick buck from those who misunderstand the situation, I wish you financial ills.

JSWENSON 06-30-2014 07:04 AM

I wouldn't call it a scam, more like jumping on the hype train and thinking porn + crypto will be magic. Anything this coin could theoretically do Bitcoin does already, and has a wider userbase by miles. Nothing will come of this, millions in promo or not.

edgeprod 06-30-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20141858)
Bwahahahahahaha. Yes, this may have happened.



Alright then, let's just bump this in a year or two eh? :winkwink:

I predict this particularly unimaginative bitcoin copy will be dead/totally worthless within 24 months, but more likely than that <12months or maybe even 6. It's a pathetic pump-and-dump style money making attempt, you've literally brought nothing but a marketing video to the table.

That's just my uneducated opinion.

I personally have nothing to do with the coin, and do not currently own even one share. Please stop implying that I do.

PR_Dave 06-30-2014 11:42 AM

At least we know Internet Guy is Stringer Bell on bitcointalk.

Anyways this is not a "pump and dump". This is actually the beginning of something much bigger.

I don't fuck around.

:pimp

Alex1776 07-01-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20139276)
buy some bitcoin, probably the easiest way (bearing in mind I don't really play with them either, and this is the easiest way I found when getting my first altcoins) is buy whatever $ worth you want to invest from https://localbitcoins.com/

Pretty straightfoward.

then create an account at www.allcoin.com

you deposit the bitcoins you just bought there, and use them to buy that equivalent of wankcoin.

if you have litecoins, can you trade them for wankcoins? or must you have bitcoins?

xXXtesy10 07-01-2014 09:56 AM

dumbest shit ever

edgeprod 07-01-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 20142469)
At least we know Internet Guy is Stringer Bell on bitcointalk.

Anyways this is not a "pump and dump". This is actually the beginning of something much bigger.

I don't fuck around.

:pimp

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

adultmobile 07-01-2014 12:20 PM

Just an update on my statement about gocoin.com - they finally replied me that they do accept adult sites as they're not just based in Singapore. In fact, metart accepts bitcoin, litecoin and dogecoin (lol) via gocoin. Maybe they could support wankcoin too - I think bitpay and coinbase are going to support bitcoin only... so perhaps gocoin could support titcoins, wankcoins and the such as soon as they come out, all in a same processor. Unlikely the average program will support one different biller per cryptocurrency.

ilnjscb 07-01-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20143869)
Just an update on my statement about gocoin.com - they finally replied me that they do accept adult sites as they're not just based in Singapore. In fact, metart accepts bitcoin, litecoin and dogecoin (lol) via gocoin. Maybe they could support wankcoin too - I think bitpay and coinbase are going to support bitcoin only... so perhaps gocoin could support titcoins, wankcoins and the such as soon as they come out, all in a same processor. Unlikely the average program will support one different biller per cryptocurrency.

convince these guys to make a mainstream version with a peg - like Berkshire A shares and B shares. Then we can have fun trading them back and forth.

xXXtesy10 07-01-2014 06:16 PM

Hilarious to see the egos think they can just make their own currency. :1orglaugh I have an idea, you guys should print your faces on the monopoly money too:1orglaugh

ruff 07-01-2014 06:18 PM

I love these threads. I just bought some Wankcoin and I'm going to start accepting it on my porn sites along with Bitcoin. Crypto sure seems to get some peoples panties in a bunch and that's real entertainment. Meanwhile, I'm making a buck or two here and there with these coins and that's sweet. Porn has been responsible for a lot of Internet innovation and acceptance of new technologies. Newbies don't know this because, well, they're newbies. Of course, that doesn't keep them from blathering their uninformed and stupid opinions in every thread about Crypto. Rave on dudes, some of you are a hoot!

There are a few on GFY that are making a ton on money with these coins. The rest of you aren't.

edgeprod 07-01-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20144292)
Hilarious to see the egos think they can just make their own currency. :1orglaugh I have an idea, you guys should print your faces on the monopoly money too:1orglaugh

They made a multi-hundred-thousand-dollar market capitalization out of nothing. What have you done lately? :helpme

WeSellMedia 07-01-2014 10:17 PM

:thumbsup:thumbsup

DerekMister33 07-02-2014 08:11 PM

Looks like Market Cap is only $150K?

Internet Guy 07-03-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 20142469)
At least we know Internet Guy is Stringer Bell on bitcointalk.

Anyways this is not a "pump and dump". This is actually the beginning of something much bigger.

I don't fuck around.

:pimp

Yup that's me!

Why don't we just bump this one as time passes and see who's right.

PR_Glen 07-03-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20146409)
Yup that's me!

Why don't we just bump this one as time passes and see who's right.

Yeah, because Dave is the one here who needs to prove himself...

mOrrI 07-03-2014 12:12 PM

Interesting...

Going to take a look at it

edgeprod 07-03-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20146637)
Yeah, because Dave is the one here who needs to prove himself...

:1orglaugh ... right?

adultmobile 07-03-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20144007)
convince these guys to make a mainstream version with a peg - like Berkshire A shares and B shares. Then we can have fun trading them back and forth.

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20144297)
I love these threads. I just bought some Wankcoin and I'm going to start accepting it on my porn sites along with Bitcoin.

I asked GoCoin what about accepting Wankcoin or TitCoin (they accept DogeCoin... joke for joke...), they replied: "We will certainly consider adding those if after doing some research there is enough transactional volume to adopt the coin.". So I understand the transactional volume of Doge was enough. Now if you go on http://coinmarketcap.com and rank by volume (24h), what I see it is bitcoin 20m, litecoin 3m, darkcoin 1.3m, minerals 727k, dogecoin 584k, .... wank coin 2k LOL this is small. I see no tit or tits coins listed.

Going to check what sites accept Wankcoin, that's only the porn.com ones: http://www.wankcoin.com/all-sites-that-accept-wankcoin/ lots of sites in their network, but that's just them, only them. People may think there's many different independent sites adopting wankcoin, that's a deal with one program only how I see it for now.

Anyway I see gocoin is used by metart to accept btc, lite and doge, so they may be seriouds about keep adult sites (I even asked directly - for what it matters)... and since I sure don't want to run a litecoind , dogecoind etc. server on my own to accept few dollars worth a year of these sales a year in best scenario, I may implement gocoin which it looks easy.

Much like implementing Epoch it adds lots of prepaid voucher cards and fancy euro bank systems, all at once... I think it makes sense a bitcoin processor should also add with time those other fancy coins, so you integrate once and get all these silly "me-too-coins" supported for free. I would avoid bitcoin-only processors as on long term I don't think transactions it will be bitcoin only, more like a mess of different coins (if not else, just to money launder better).

PR_Dave 07-03-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20146409)
Yup that's me!

:thumbsup

BUMP!

darksoul 07-04-2014 01:22 AM

to Dave and the team
I've toyed with this idea for a while but don't have the time and resources to pull it off but I'm thinking this will be of good use for wnk
How about a tube ala clip4sale with pay per view/own in wankcoins ?
You could probably set that up in a jiffy with your own content. Down the road you could allow other producers to upload their own content and receive instant payments for it.

ilnjscb 07-04-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20146847)
I asked GoCoin what about accepting Wankcoin or TitCoin (they accept DogeCoin... joke for joke...), they replied: "We will certainly consider adding those if after doing some research there is enough transactional volume to adopt the coin.". So I understand the transactional volume of Doge was enough. Now if you go on http://coinmarketcap.com and rank by volume (24h), what I see it is bitcoin 20m, litecoin 3m, darkcoin 1.3m, minerals 727k, dogecoin 584k, .... wank coin 2k LOL this is small. I see no tit or tits coins listed.

Going to check what sites accept Wankcoin, that's only the porn.com ones: http://www.wankcoin.com/all-sites-that-accept-wankcoin/ lots of sites in their network, but that's just them, only them. People may think there's many different independent sites adopting wankcoin, that's a deal with one program only how I see it for now.

Anyway I see gocoin is used by metart to accept btc, lite and doge, so they may be seriouds about keep adult sites (I even asked directly - for what it matters)... and since I sure don't want to run a litecoind , dogecoind etc. server on my own to accept few dollars worth a year of these sales a year in best scenario, I may implement gocoin which it looks easy.

Much like implementing Epoch it adds lots of prepaid voucher cards and fancy euro bank systems, all at once... I think it makes sense a bitcoin processor should also add with time those other fancy coins, so you integrate once and get all these silly "me-too-coins" supported for free. I would avoid bitcoin-only processors as on long term I don't think transactions it will be bitcoin only, more like a mess of different coins (if not else, just to money launder better).

For now the total market cap of all cryptocoins besides BTC is 1/8th BTC. Interestingly, the daily volume total to BTC ratio is about twice that. Wankcoin has to be tied in to other merchants to increase daily volume.

adultmobile 07-04-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20147518)
Wankcoin has to be tied in to other merchants to increase daily volume.

Much like any other coin - the issue there is that in adult, only a small % of sites accepts bitcoin, and already with litecoin you hardly find any adult site to buy from. No one said it is banking lots of sales with bitcoin so why anyone should care to add not just bitcoin or bitcoin + litecoin but even a 50th place alt currency, which it takes time and money to setup?
For this reason, I think the best it is those altcoins like wankcoin are supported by common processors, that adult sites use already. We got Verotel supporting btc, let Verotel add wankcoin, automatically all Verotel sites support wankcoin too, with no effort.
There may be special unique deals like wankcoin with porn com network, to buzz in the press for a while, but for volume to happen and anyone to take this seriously, there is need of support by processors really, more than hoping sites will implement it by hand one by one.

PR_Dave 07-04-2014 09:16 AM

Just got added as a payment method at www.onwebcam.com

onwebcam 07-04-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 20147695)
Just got added as a payment method at www.onwebcam.com

Just noticed you ended up with onwebcam, love seeing my old names actually in the works. :thumbsup

Relentless 07-04-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20146637)
Yeah, because Dave is the one here who needs to prove himself...

This. :2 cents:

P.S. - Tell GFY to change the ":2 cents:" emoticon to two wankcoins instead ;)

Jel 07-05-2014 07:19 AM

some buy/sell activity needed ;)

Internet Guy 07-07-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 20147181)
:thumbsup

BUMP!

Bumping for Volume.

Internet Guy 07-07-2014 07:25 PM

I truly apologize for giving you a hard time, if your intention is not to defraud the stupid..

edgeprod 07-07-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20150972)
I truly apologize for giving you a hard time, if your intention is not to defraud the stupid..

We already declared you an idiot and moved on, sorry. :2 cents:

Internet Guy 07-07-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20150974)
We already declared you an idiot and moved on, sorry. :2 cents:

Alright :thumbsup

https://www.allcoin.com/trade/wkc_btc
https://www.kingcoiny.com/index.php?...ade&market=WKC

Just curious, how will visitors know where to buy Wank Coins? It's a bit of work even for a webmaster. What makes you think they'll bother?

Internet Guy 07-07-2014 07:43 PM

Also congratulations on your foreign cheerleader team in the Bitccointalk thread, quite a bunch of go-getters with solid understanding of concepts like "keyboard and mouse" ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...267#msg7718267

Internet Guy 07-07-2014 07:45 PM

Let me guess, you were all late to the party with Bitcoin and this is your attempt to ride the crypto-wave from the start. What could possible go wrong. I'm terribly sorry to disappoint you, but it doesn't work like that.

edgeprod 07-07-2014 07:55 PM

Hahaha, it was way too easy to flip the crazy switch right back on with a single comment. This guy is going to be fun. Another VenusBlogger type of meltdown, looks like -- awesome!

Internet Guy 07-09-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20151006)
Hahaha, it was way too easy to flip the crazy switch right back on with a single comment. This guy is going to be fun. Another VenusBlogger type of meltdown, looks like -- awesome!

:upsidedow

JSWENSON 07-10-2014 12:28 AM

I don't know the guy, could be crazy. Either way this is a stupid fucking attempt at riding the coattails of Bitcoin while not understanding a single thing that makes it great.

"Oh I know, you could make a site like x and take wankcoins and let others take them too!"

Holy fucking shit, one more idiotic step in between someone and porn when they could just take Bitcoin themselves if they wanted to jump on the crypto train.

Every bro in existence can take up for the people behind this clusterfuck and it won't make it any less stupid.

PR_Glen 07-10-2014 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet Guy (Post 20150995)
Let me guess, you were all late to the party with Bitcoin and this is your attempt to ride the crypto-wave from the start. What could possible go wrong. I'm terribly sorry to disappoint you, but it doesn't work like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 20153638)
I don't know the guy, could be crazy. Either way this is a stupid fucking attempt at riding the coattails of Bitcoin while not understanding a single thing that makes it great.

"Oh I know, you could make a site like x and take wankcoins and let others take them too!"

Holy fucking shit, one more idiotic step in between someone and porn when they could just take Bitcoin themselves if they wanted to jump on the crypto train.

Every bro in existence can take up for the people behind this clusterfuck and it won't make it any less stupid.

Let us try out a test here. How many successful business ventures have you created that have made other people rich over the years? Now how many has Dave? Ask around, we'd like to hear what you find out.

ps

is 'bro' like a code for what broke people call others that are more accomplished than them? It would explain a lot.

Internet Guy 07-10-2014 06:51 AM

Well, quite clearly past success is not always an indicator of future performance.


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