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adultmobile 07-04-2014 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20147535)
AdultKing, what's your issue with Bonga? Can barely remember any conversation with you, so please explain yourself.

AdultKing issues:

Bongacams inside:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1131791

Killing off File Lockers:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1072777
...
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1072777&page=137

Pirates on GFY:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1142281

dunhill 07-04-2014 09:10 AM

Bump for Duke.

I know a particular website with ripped privates from Imlive and other large cam sites that is promoting Bonga for over 1 year. I never reported it since it never minds me and it's not my job checking the traffic sent by the affiliates.

@AK, your crawler is not picking up the right sites.
@Bonga, it is not first time when you offend Paully, I don't like your attitude and I will consider asking Pussycash what they say about their content used for promoting Bonga for a year and Bonga gladly accepting that traffic.

AdultKing 07-04-2014 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20147535)
]AdultKing, what's your issue with Bonga? Can barely remember any conversation with you, so please explain yourself.

You deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates and as a direct result of that I am going to work with the risk companies to take your credit card processing away. By the time I have finished you won't be able to get a Paypal account let alone an MID.

VIXEN ESCORTS 07-04-2014 05:14 PM

I just signed up as an affiliate of Bongacash because I really like the UI both as a webmaster and a surfer and because of this thread ironically. Adultking, I applaud your efforts, I really do, I had your mentality a few years ago but the genie is out of the bottle, everything is free. What you are doing ia great and to be applauded, just like the Mastercard fee but unfortunately it's all too late, many years too late.

AdultKing 07-04-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 20148137)
I just signed up as an affiliate of Bongacash because I really like the UI both as a webmaster and a surfer and because of this thread ironically. Adultking, I applaud your efforts, I really do, I had your mentality a few years ago but the genie is out of the bottle, everything is free. What you are doing ia great and to be applauded, just like the Mastercard fee but unfortunately it's all too late, many years too late.

Maybe, but I'm going to shut them down anyway.

VIXEN ESCORTS 07-04-2014 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20148143)
Maybe, but I'm going to shut them down anyway.

But what difference would that make to ANYTHING ? People don't pay just to look at porn. INTERACTIVITY, escorts, dating, cams

AdultKing 07-04-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 20148178)
But what difference would that make to ANYTHING ? People don't pay just to look at porn. INTERACTIVITY, escorts, dating, cams

It takes away just one more monetisation source for pirate sites.

If BongaCams want to drop their whole pirate based affiliate user base then they'd be fine.

CPA-Rush 07-05-2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 20148178)
.

damn i can't stop looking at this pic , ass and pussy:thumbsup

VIXEN ESCORTS 07-05-2014 08:24 AM

http://www.ebonyculo.com/paris4037.jpg
http://www.ebonyculo.com/paris4038.jpg
http://www.ebonyculo.com/paris4028.jpg
http://www.ebonyculo.com/paris4058.jpg

CPA-Rush 07-05-2014 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 20148534)

cheers i'm drooling now http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/...leys/drool.gif

AdultKing 07-05-2014 10:31 AM

@BongaCams.

Ironically I found one file locker site that has for download more than 18,000 of your BongaCams live show videos and private show videos.

Supporting piracy still look like a good thing ?

SomeCreep 07-05-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 20146814)
The full Brook Ultra Facial Abuse scene with our watermark removed and replaced. Going to the url that was used shows a whitelabel for Bonga Cams

http://mrporno.org/boards/hahacams.jpg

To Duke, for every one video you find like that, there are 1000 others you haven't found on the net doing the same thing. That is, using your content to promote an unrelated site.

AdultKing 07-06-2014 09:41 AM

This is the 18,000+ live cam chat rips available on just one file locker, all BongaCams

http://copycontrol.org/cam-piracy/

*Warning: the page has so many screenshots it will take forever to load.

adultmobile 07-06-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20148640)
@BongaCams.

Ironically I found one file locker site that has for download more than 18,000 of your BongaCams live show videos and private show videos.

http://copycontrol.org/cam-piracy/

Supporting piracy still look like a good thing ?

I can't answer in behalf of BongaCams, let's see what they think about video captures given away for free. However, if you ask me, I can give my opinion about the real effects of this over a cam site.

First of all, is this pirated content? Most or all of those video recordings you refer as "pirated", are from "public shows", it means these was visible by everyone for free while these happened, from any country and without even registering a free account, just opening bongacams page, like opening a tube page. These shows are free in first place, just so a few may send tips, and most don't, just watch for free, that's how it works. Further, why some girls show even if getting no tips? It could be this was a private show done on livejasmin or streamate, paid by an user in livejasmin and streamate, and splitcammed for free by the model in other sites like bonga + mfc etc.; this means, the model is who both produced and splitcam-live-pirated the video to other cam sites in hope of extra tips, for a show they made and got paid for anyway. Another guy records and upload this already public show in another public site, but you can't compare this to copy a DVDrip or member area HD video to a file locker.

Second, is that a problem for Bongacams (or for any cam site), if bongacams-branded (or any-cam-site branded) cam show recordings are "pirated" massively around? Really, this is free of charge advertising for the site. A large number of people get to know of this "bongacams" (or any else cam site) from the pirate files circulating around. Without these video captures, it is sure that bongacams would have less traffic, not more, as less people would know it exists. As others noted in this and other threads, people pay cam sites not for the video but mostly for the interaction, that a recorded video can't give. So as long as video capture includes the name of the originator cam site, this is simply viral marketing, free of charge growth hacking. Many MFC models print over screen "property of MODELNAME in myfreecams.com", so that when people pirate around the recordings, at least can find the site AND the model room, this is simply marketing, free of charge adverts.

Third: is that a problem for the cam girls and studios? It can be a problem for a good % of them. Especially those who care to have the own country blocked from viewing the shows; since the recorded video will be instead available from everywhere, including russia, ukraine, romania, colombia, philippines or whoever the model lives, with the risk of neughbours, relatives to find her videos now or years in the future.

So while a cam site it may declare various policies or level of caring, the practical and real world effect of recorded videos spread around file lockers, forums and tubes, it is simply free of charge viral advertising (or more modern word: growth hacking). For models it is also free of charge advertising of the fact they do cam shows, but this may be unwanted to be effective in letting know her local friends, relatives or neighbours.

Major (Tom) 07-06-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 20148711)
To Duke, for every one video you find like that, there are 1000 others you haven't found on the net doing the same thing. That is, using your content to promote an unrelated site.

No shit,
But one at a time. My point is it's easier to go after bonga than the pirate bay
Ds

JSWENSON 07-06-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20144889)
AlexAnthony, when you asked for PerSignup campaign to be enabled for your account, you've been informed personally that we accept only quality registrations on PerSignup campaign. Of course this also means that we accept only real registrations, not fake ones.

Have you really expected to be paid for all these artificial registrations you've made and with 81.5% of purchases went in chargebacks/refunds? :) Well, thanks for trying, but we don't need your fake registrations - you won't be paid for your efforts in creating fake accounts.

If this guy had 81.5% chargebacks and refunds and that was unusual with your program you would have told him to get fucked and find another sponsor. You didn't.

BongaCams 07-07-2014 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20148100)
You deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates

Nope, we don't. Furthermore, sending traffic from sites with illegal content may result in an account being cancelled. It's written in our Terms.

All your statements are nonsense, such as if I would say that you're involved in zoophilia together with Paully. To be honest, not sure about Paully.. but anyways, if you have ever seen that we recruit piracy sites - show it, give us a link to that thread or whatever you refer to. If not - please refrain from making dumb and misleading statements about BongaCash affiliate program.

AdultKing 07-07-2014 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20149986)
Nope, we don't. Furthermore, sending traffic from sites with illegal content may result in an account being cancelled. It's written in our Terms.

All your statements are nonsense, such as if I would say that you're involved in zoophilia together with Paully. To be honest, not sure about Paully.. but anyways, if you have ever seen that we recruit piracy sites - show it, give us a link to that thread or whatever you refer to. If not - please refrain from making dumb and misleading statements about BongaCash affiliate program.

Ok, provide me with a direct contact email address for you, I'll send you a list of sites with stolen content then you cancel the affiliate accounts.

Furthermore, let us remove all the BongaCash stolen videos from sites like FileOM

http://stopfilelockers.com/fileom-fu...webcam-videos/

We've found 18,000 of them.

If you shoot me an email via http://copycontrol.org/contact-us with your phone number we can chat about it.

Let's see how serious you are about piracy. This is your chance to prove yourselves.

adultmobile 07-07-2014 08:10 AM

Double post :)

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20149994&postcount=68
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20150001&postcount=1

AdultKing 07-07-2014 01:37 PM

*crickets*

BongaCams 07-08-2014 03:41 AM

Content owners can contact us and report infringement. Keep in mind that you should be able to prove that you are an owner of content, because we are not going to bother our affiliates just because someone has posted some nonsense on forums. Only legitimate claims will be processed, and as it was mentioned before, it can end up in affiliate account cancellation.

AdultKing, we are still waiting for you to prove your statement:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20148100)
You deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates

Are you the man of your word and will prove it by showing some forum or whatever it is, where we so called "recruit piracy sites" or you are just another liar like Paully?

AdultKing 07-08-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20151264)
AdultKing, we are still waiting for you to prove your statement:

Quote:

You deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates
Are you the man of your word and will prove it by showing some forum or whatever it is, where we so called "recruit piracy sites" or you are just another liar like Paully?


You recruit webmasters on WJunction which is a known haven of file locker operators, direct download site operators, piracy blogs, file locker uploaders and so on

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...wjunction1.jpg


The following site , full of full rips of popular movies has an "ADULT XXX" link in the nav bar which links directly through BongaCash to BongaCams.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten.../filme-net.jpg

The owner of this site has replied to you and you have replied to him in the WJunction thread screenshot above.


A full list of domains we have found linking to you can be found in this thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1144836

adultmobile 07-08-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20151887)
You recruit webmasters on WJunction which is a known haven of file locker operators, direct download site operators, piracy blogs, file locker uploaders and so on

You mean GFY is not a known haven of file locker operators, direct download site operators, piracy blogs, file locker uploaders and so on? :)

elliso 07-08-2014 09:17 PM

Bongacash go fuck Yourself

elliso 07-08-2014 09:19 PM

they are well known as scammer all over net

BongaCams 07-11-2014 01:39 AM

AdultKing, your efforts in trying to ensure everyone that making a thread on a public forum is equal to “recruiting a piracy sites” is getting more and more ridiculous. You better provide any direct evidence, that we so called “deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates”. We are 120% sure that we never did.

You may think that making a dumb statement and then offering your service to the company you have offended might be a good idea, but it's not. We do take actions against those who is stealing our content, and the only reason why your offer isn't accepted is because you act like an idiot.

Paully 07-11-2014 02:04 AM

I have brought it to your attention along with many others. You keep paying pirates. Thats it Thats all and Thats why our meeting wont be pleasant.

AdultKing 07-11-2014 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20154705)
AdultKing, your efforts in trying to ensure everyone that making a thread on a public forum is equal to ?recruiting a piracy sites? is getting more and more ridiculous. You better provide any direct evidence, that we so called ?deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates?. We are 120% sure that we never did.

You recruited webmasters from WJunction.

Some of those webmasters (actually virtually all) are piracy webmasters.

You have more than 120 piracy related sites in your network of affiliates that we have already discovered - we're only 20% in to the crawl.

Quote:

You may think that making a dumb statement and then offering your service to the company you have offended might be a good idea, but it's not. We do take actions against those who is stealing our content, and the only reason why your offer isn't accepted is because you act like an idiot.
Your efforts to stop piracy of your content are failing miserably.

Here's some stats:

45,000+ Videos on one single file locker (many have been there over a year)
197,500+ Video files across the 5 largest file lockers (many have been there over a year)

You're either not trying, don't have the tools or your current DMCA agent is blind, deaf and dumb.

Fat Panda 07-11-2014 08:42 AM

gotta love the crickets from bongacash

WDF 07-11-2014 10:17 AM

What makes anyone think they are not partnered with file lockers to monetize their content further.

AdultKing 07-11-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20155169)
What makes anyone think they are not partnered with file lockers to monetize their content further.

I know the source of these cam rips and it's nothing to do with BongaCams.

x-rate 07-11-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20155035)
45,000+ Videos on one single file locker (many have been there over a year)
197,500+ Video files across the 5 largest file lockers (many have been there over a year)

Thanx for the infos.... will never list my cams models on that site!

DTK 07-11-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20154705)
AdultKing, your efforts in trying to ensure everyone that making a thread on a public forum is equal to ?recruiting a piracy sites? is getting more and more ridiculous. You better provide any direct evidence, that we so called ?deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates?. We are 120% sure that we never did.

You may think that making a dumb statement and then offering your service to the company you have offended might be a good idea, but it's not. We do take actions against those who is stealing our content, and the only reason why your offer isn't accepted is because you act like an idiot.

So somehow, posting on a well-known piracy webmaster site that you're looking for affiliates DOES NOT EQUAL ?deliberately and knowingly recruit piracy sites as affiliates.? :error:helpme

And then you accuse AK of making a "dumb statement". Awesome:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Rik Lear 07-11-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20147428)
For anyone who is interested here is a list of referring URL's we have indexed.

http://stopfilelockers.com/indexed/bongacams.html

Make no mistake, we are working on a couple of angles at mitigating the ability of this company to receive payments, so if you're an affiliate be aware that one day they may not pay you.

:thumbsup

dunhill 08-02-2014 08:45 PM

@Bongas

You have an open redirect on your tracking link.
Poc:
Code:

http://bongacams.com/track?c=238270&csurl=http://google.com

Presnus 08-15-2014 11:52 PM

Conversation just dropped massively with bongacash.

If you ask the support team: they have nothing changed or don't know anything.

When you look at their embeds you can clearly see that they are testing various signup pages and different messaging!

RULE #1!
DON'T FUCKING TEST YOUR SHIT WITH AFFILIATE TRAFFIC!

Also I have been trying to get the trackback parameter working correctly for 3 months now. There support just sucks big time! They don't know what they are doing.

Going to push another affiliate program since I expect working this way they won't be around for long time!

AdultKing 08-30-2014 04:52 AM

Bongacams is a rogue piracy site supporter and as such anyone dealing with them should be aware that we are actively working to deprive them of their merchant accounts.

adultmobile 08-31-2014 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20210160)
Bongacams is a rogue piracy site supporter and as such anyone dealing with them should be aware that we are actively working to deprive them of their merchant accounts.

Is there any particular reason why you posted this same statement in 3 or 4 old threads?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1144836&page=3
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1083254&page=2
...

MTCCash 08-31-2014 09:22 AM

feel free to try us out - see SIG

shermo 09-02-2014 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20151298)
Content owners can contact us and report infringement. Keep in mind that you should be able to prove that you are an owner of content, because we are not going to bother our affiliates just because someone has posted some nonsense on forums. Only legitimate claims will be processed, and as it was mentioned before, it can end up in affiliate account cancellation.

We have done this, and have even posted a cap in this thread:
You are STILL accepting traffic from http://hahacams.com/. We've provided PLENTY of evidence to you regarding this domain, and many others that have used our content to promote your sites, and you STILL accept the traffic. EVERY bit of it.

If you were a man of action and had some business ethics, traffic from this domain would no longer be accepted.

So...Are you going to do the right thing, or are you going to continue to turn a blind eye?

AdultKing 09-02-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherm (Post 20213375)
So...Are you going to do the right thing, or are you going to continue to turn a blind eye?

They won't do the right thing, but they will lose their merchant processing. They can count on that. :2 cents:

Presnus 09-03-2014 04:29 AM

And again, their support sucks! They won't be around for long time I guess

ianmoone332000 09-04-2014 10:14 AM

I found this thread as i was thinking of giving bongacash a try. Thank fuck i didnt

JA$ON 09-04-2014 10:35 AM

I told them that my traffic is comming from GOOGLE SEARCHES and they have the access to see it as I whitelabeled my site to them. I redirected the DNS to them so they could have access to all stats of my website , still they fucking ask me where I have the traffic from ?

Not uncommon at ALL to ask affiliates where traffic is coming from

They said ok the traffic is comming from google and I am not lying , after 5 minutes I received this email saying that all my PPL program converted to revshare and all purchases from users registered are converted into 25% revshare.

They are (just like all programs) not looking to steal $100 from you, trust me, lol. If your PPL was not forecasted to be profitable for them (which is WHY they are in business) then they have to go rev. Which btw, if you have promoted cams before you know this, will make you far more money long term. They wouldn't change it JUST to change it, or try to make more off of such a small account.

So instead of my $250 I now had $150 in my account , so I don`t have the minimum of $200.
What the fuck ? NO PROGRAM DOES THAT TO THEIR AFFILIATES !!

Playing Devils advocate, Programs can't create separate rules for every affiliate.....

That being said, when things like this come up for us, I will generally send the affiliate the $ even if they are not at the minimum because - Its obvious you need it, you stats and payout were changed mid cycle and it just promotes good will and a feeling of a partnership.
If it was a crazy hard, pain in the ass request, then Id say I understand not doing it. You can't spend all day making exemptions for everyone. But a one time thing, under the circumstances and considering it takes no REAL effort to send it out.....I would have done it, but also understand their point.

Sounds like they didn't do anything outside their rules, nothing every other program doesn't do by default. And Id say your reaction is a bit over the top considering they did nothing wrong and the small amount.

timmyc38 09-04-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Presnus (Post 20214195)
And again, their support sucks! They won't be around for long time I guess

you want support? you got it - join up and hit me up

adultmobile 09-05-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmyc38 (Post 20216128)
you want support? you got it - join up and hit me up

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2482168064/h8D316B28/

karolinaboy 09-09-2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BongaCams (Post 20144564)
PayPerSignup campaign was disabled due to cheating attempt. AlexAnthony was moved back to RevShare in order to help him benefit from all the fake registrations that he has made.
First of all, 81.5% of all purchases made from your traffic went into chargebacks and refunds, which is weird. Secondary, vast majority of your registrations are fake. And also, you never had $150 on your balance once you were moved back to RevShare.

Along with fakes, there is a small amount of real registrations, and this affiliate still will be getting fair % from all purchases made by those real visitors.
Let me remind you once again - don't try to cheat and you will be fine. BongaCash is converting damn good on all adult traffic and if you don't try to fake registrations, you will make a lot of money with us!

Just my :2 cents:

I never really understood why Cam Sites/Dating Sites would have a chargeback/refund. There shouldn't be any. If someone already watched what they paid for can they just get a refund for that or how does that work?

emill 03-31-2015 02:52 AM

This is real scam program dont deal with them

Markul 03-31-2015 05:56 AM

Look at this:
http://i.imgur.com/P0WEWes.png

Then look at the retards talking shit, then ask yourself:
  • Do they still process?
  • Does it look like their business is growing?
  • Should you learn something from this tread about who to listen to and who to ignore around here when it comes to delivering what they say they will?

:helpme:1orglaugh

mamaliga 03-31-2015 07:16 AM

bonga is not scam!


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