The Right rarely gets anything right from what I can tell. A couple of things they did get right were, just off the top of my head, were the EPA started by Regan (I think?), and GW Bush created a huge reserve in the Pacific Ocean. Oh, and GW Bush also signed a bill ending the Iraq War which republicans of course "Blame" on Obama these days so...



Obamacare is a winner. People who were on bad plans are now on good ones, and most are paying less. Obamacare did not kill jobs. You should like it - it is based on Romney's plan for MA when he was governor. Did you like it when it was Romney's, but now hate it because its Obamas? If so, please explain.

Not true:

http://www.cbpp.org/images/chartbook...change-OPT.png

Let's be fair. The origin of this debt was created by republican George W Bush when he reduced taxes AND started 2 wars. Obama inherited over 10 Trillion of debt caused by Bush. So Obama has been around for 5 years now and the debt has increased of course. One way that would help would be for Congress to support policies that bolster the economic recovery and simultaneously commit to a long-term debt-reduction plan that would phase in once the economy strengthens. It's a very tricky problem. If they increase taxes it could affect job growth of course. Maybe the plan is for now, to increase the tax base and then slowly raise taxes, who knows..


3. Drug War:
I agree with you that it is a cash cow. People all over are arrested for carrying small amounts of pot and put into PRIVATE prisons and kept there for way too long. Legalizing Pot is a big step in the right direction.


It's the parents job, fine, but its also the teachers job to teach kids right based on modern practices of birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies and disease. I don't know the stats but I'd bet that too many "god fearing" parents teach their kids the wrong things about sex, and might even refuse to discuss it with their children altogether.




Dude, come on... Global warming is a real thing and the proof is everywhere. Even republicans are starting to smarten up . There are different kinds of ice and your "Translation" is completely wrong.


Green energy is a reality. People are already powering their cars with electricity. "Green" means renewable sources of electricity, and here in Quebec, almost 100% of our electricity is green. I agree with you that Solar is still expensive, but this is not the only form of green energy, and, solar will hopefully improve over time. Green energy deserves a chance because oil is just too expensive: It's expensive at the pump, it's expensive in pollution, in health, and in lives lost.

Peace.

Number 1...no it didn't. That bullshit was what Democrats "predicted" all gloom and doom when they thought they might lose some of their "free" money to spend.

Number 2...the "Sequester" was Pres. Obama's idea. Not the Republicans.

Another post made where the person has no clue what they are talking about :1orglaugh

Hospitals, drug companies and doctors have been fucking over the American public for years and years. If they are now getting fucked, well fuck them. A aspirin should not cost $50. When you visit a hospital, you shouldn't have 3 different doctors stop by your room asking basic questions and then billing you as a visit when they aren't even your primary. Drug companies have been price gouging the American public for years. A medication I buy, made in Denmark, cost $35-$45 in both Canada and Mexico. The EXACT same medication here in the United States is $160. Fuck drug companies.

You are absolutely right!!! fuck doctors, Who cares that they spent 8+ years of their life in collage to become a dr. who cares that they are saving lives and helping many people live longer. Fuck Drug companies, who give people ease from their everyday pains making life easier to deal with. We should care more about the low percent of people Obama care does help. The very few not being fucked over, you know the ones who are not doing anything to benefit society.

End result: Fuck hard working people, We should only care about the lazy entitled bums who are dragging everyone and everything down with them.

Did I get that right?

The EPA is horse shit designed to steal land from the people of this country.
There are COUNTLESS stories of this. Open your eyes.

"If you like your plan you can keep it. Period."
HE LIED.
There isn't even any proof that anyone has actually PAID into Obamacare, yet you are declaring it "a winner"? Everything you just typed is pure denial of reality. Romney is no different than Big O. The agenda would be marching forward the same way had Romney been dubbed King instead of Obama. You are caught in the left right bullshit, and clearly on the wrong end of that too.

You believe false "economic recovery" numbers the same as you probably believe false unemployment numbers. It's all manufactured, the same as the "housing recovery".

Big O has been in charge for 5 years and you're still hung up on blaming Bush.
The list of Obama's crimes can fill a book. I won't bother to post them all here, since your eyes will glaze over on them anyway.

Raise taxes??? That's your solution?
Having nearly half my money stolen by the criminal IRS is enough.

If their idea of sex-education is anything like their idea of math education (Common Core), the human race is fucking doomed.

No. Just... stop it.


Implementing ?green energy? regulations that will cost the US 1.44 million jobs.
They use fake data to make electric vehicles seem more fuel efficient than they really are.
Taxes on gas are going up because of lost revenue and soon there will be an additional mileage / use tax and / or tolls. So much for "saving" with your fuel-efficient car.
Obama also is preventing the extraction of up to 3 trillion gallons of oil buried under federal land in Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming, more than enough to end US dependence on foreign oil and supply our energy needs for a couple hundred years.

I used to be a hardcore Republican, but my lord the Republican party is a joke right now.Their entire strategy has been to "defeat Obama" and it's utterly failed. The Republican party has accomplished nothing.

Obamacare is the perfect example. This is a very much needed change and over all a good law; It's helped millions. It's removed pre-existing conditions and allowed kids to stay on their parents plans longer. We now have more people insured than ever before. This is win win all the way around. Yet the Republican party filed over one hundred lawsuits trying to kill this? And they lost at every turn. This has been a huge six year battle that the Republican lost.

Then we have the economy. No matter how you spin it, we've had fifty-two weeks of straight economic growth. Unemployment is down too. (Sure, we can argue about the "actual numbers" but the "actual numbers" are nothing more than a higher reflection of the unemployment rate we've always used - and still the "actual numbers" are coming down too so it's a pointless discussion.) You can argue about how the median net worth is down or how income is down; Of course these numbers are down people lost their houses and jobs and had to start over again.

Then we have the all mighty Republican party making big scenes about Benghazi and the IRS. No one cares how Benghazi was spun after the fact, and the IRS has done nothing more than doing their jobs.

Now the Republican party is suing the President for passing Executive Orders? For doing the same thing every President before him has done, only doing it a lot less? What a crock of shit.

At the end of the day are we better off now than six years ago? We are sure. Six years ago exactly half of the twenty houses on my street were empty. I'll never forget that. Now every one is occupied.

The Republican needs to stop focusing on the battle they've already lost twice (Obama), start doing their jobs, and start focusing on the next election if they hope to reclaim the White House.

Sure some died, but more are doing well. Full story at http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/22/news...-bankruptcies/

This is dead on. The republicans need to focus on getting their shit together and putting forth ideas and candidates that actually seem like they will work. Making people angry and misinformed so they can win elections isn't going to help the country if they don't have a plan as to what they will do once they are in power.

It troubles me to say it, but Rush Limbaugh once said something that made sense. After Bush got elected for the second time and liberals and democrats were up in arms he told people to get over it.Suck it up. You lost. Get over it. Now figure out how to work with this person and do your job.

I despise Limbaugh, but in that case he had a very good point.

Aputate: Instead of just dismissing what I have to say, why not back up what you say with some links, facts, etc? You can have your opinion of course but if you say something I said isn't true, please include a link to prove your point so we can debate it.

For example, you said:

Where did you read this?

Coming from someone who now has a little bit of experience with electric, I can tell you that this is not true, from at least my point of view. I am getting 72 kilometres to a charge, and have driven over 1200 kilometres so far, and not used a drop of gas. (I would get more to a charge if I drove less aggressively and didn't crank the AC all the time I'm sure).

Hi AYH,
Hydro and wind are also "Green" energy, but I get your point. I would argue that Solar while slow to be adopted by the US, is thriving in other countries such as Germany where for the first time about 2 weeks ago, Solar provided 51% of the electricity needed for the entire country. And even more interesting, more than 50% of Germany's renewable energy is owned by its citizens & farmers: http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-...companies.html which is something I did not know before. That's pretty cool!

Your Germany stats are cool. I'm all for EVERYBODY using solar power (and wind) as much as possible for their homes.

BUT...as usual, your stats are cherry picked.

This is the reality:
"Germany is the world's top photovoltaics (PV) installer, with a solar PV capacity of 35.948 gigawatts (GW) at the end of 2013 and a supported capacity of 36.519 GW at the end of May 2014.
The German new solar PV installations increased by about 7.6 GW in 2012, and solar PV provided 18 TWh (billion kilowatt-hours) of electricity in 2011, about 3% of total electricity.
Some market analysts expect this could reach 25 percent by 2050.[4] Germany has a goal of producing 35% of electricity from renewable sources by 2020 and 100% by 2050."

COULD reach 15% by the year 2050 and currently only provide 3% of the TOTAL electricity used in Germany.
That sucks. And Germany is number one in the world.

It's not a case of them being "ahead" of us by the way. The technology is all the same.

It's just that Pres. Obama's administration just flat out GAVE solar companies money to do NOTHING.
Seems to me that money should have been used to HIRE them to install solar panels on every home in America.

But that wouldn't have made 100% profit going into people's pockets now would it? :(

Debating which political party or President is this or that is EXACTLY what "they" want people to do. Because the reality is this: It doesn't matter if Obama or Bush or Clinton or any President since perhaps Eisenhower (or Kennedy, and look what happened to him) is Republican OR Democrat. It's 'Good Cop/Bad Cop', and we the sheeple fall for it every time and worse, contribute to it and keep it alive by pitting R's vs. D's. Again, this is exactly what "they" want.

But whether it's the Middle East or Nebraska, people will get their dander up over this politician or that one. Meanwhile, the real business of America is getting done behind the scenes but often out in the open unnoticed because everyone is distracted by arguing who's worse, Obama or Bush.

What-the-fuck-ever, as my girlfriend would say. Carry on.

Great post The Porn Nerd. I think you hit it right on the head.

Keeping taxes as low as possible is their bread and butter. All roads lead back to that one prime directive when it comes to their ideology.

Yeah. There's that, and "because winter happened". They never make a salient point so why even try?

I actually just intended to poke my head in, and just enjoy the fireworks for a second, without contributing, but your last post suckered me in....


\How about this.... temperatures have always been fluctuating, and often much warmer than now.... but we only hit big CO2 production in the last 110 years or so.

http://iceagenow.info/wp-content/upl...al_warming.jpg

And then here is the anomaly between pretty much EVERY COMPUTER MODEL of the climate that we are basing all this "settled science"on, and the actual observations....

http://www.arizonadailyindependent.c...-real-temp.png



But yes, all of this right vrs left crap is simply distracting everyone from the fact that BOTH sides are growing the power of the government and their personal fiefdoms, creating a political elite class that has the only legal power to use force to control pretty much everything; and BOTH sides are paying off their friends with money stolen from the people through taxes, inflation and borrowing.



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Where do you get that ridiculous idea that rich pay less taxes? Rich pay MORE taxes. They are punished for being quality members of society, working hard/smart and earning more. Thanks to the leftist loser mentality mongers (punish harder working, give away and encourage less/lazy working crowd).

Obama inherited the problem from Bush (a rightie), and today the righties in congress stop Obama from making the changes required to fix the problem. You got this wrong, so that is 3 wrong things said or done by people on the right.

They vowed to make it their work to block President Obama on everything he wants to do.

Game. Set. Match.

It's because these fools do nothing but talk out of their asses, they have no idea how things actually work in the real world. They want "the rich" to pay a higher percent even though the rich has always paid in more and been carrying everyone else on their backs.

Only fair way I see to do it would be to get rid of all taxes other than sales tax. jack it up and split it between the state and government. Who ever spends more will be paying more.

This article says Obamacare is working well: : http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...ng-pretty-well


Prove it.

Robbie you have it wrong. China is going full force building solar panels and other green energies. The Obama administration provided assistance to companies like Solyndra to help improve the technology to and to hopefully beat China. Why should America or any other country buy solar panels from China when it could have been built right here at home, and create more high tech jobs in addition to the installation jobs?

You should also know that Solyndra was back by the Walton Family (Owners of Walmart, and conservatives themselves). Their loan was guaranteed by the Department of Energy, which itself came from GEORGE W BUSH (Surprise! He did something that was good).

When the economy tanked, some solar companies including Solyndra just could not compete with the subsidized companies in China and went bankrupt.

But instead of explaining even the most basic bits of the truth, the right wingers blame obama, and call green energy a failure.

The amount of complete bullshit spewed by right wingers in office, and in the media, and even here on GFY, is both troubling and sad.

Taxes are based on percentages. If you pay a lower percentage than the next guy, that means you pay less taxes than that guy. It has nothing to do with one number being larger than the other until you talk tax rate, which is expressed as a percentage.

Tax rates on the wealthiest Americans is at an all time low.

Big O doesn't give a damn about Congress. He rules by decree with his mighty pen.
"Fix the problem"? Obama has done nothing but CREATE more problems.
Are you going to blame Bush for this shit too? Over 1 million food stamps distributed to dead people in Louisiana

- More than a million dollars in food stamps have been distributed to dead people in Louisiana according to a state audit.

The audit shows nearly 4,000 households received food stamps where the primary recipient was dead.

From July 2009 to June 2013 the amount of benefits sent to the deceased reached nearly $1.3-million.

Officials say it's hard to know exactly who was using the program's cards after the owners were dead.

"On the DCFS funds, the SNAP benefits, you're not going to recover those funds," said Louisiana Legislative Auditor Daryl Purpera.

"So, that's just taxpayer money that's gone?" he was asked.

"Yeah. That's... those are federal funds, taxpayer funds that we'll not be able to recover," said Purpera.


These same dead people probably voted while dead also.
So we have no problem feeding dead people, and now Big O wants over $3 billion for illegal aliens, while we have American veterans, put on DHS terrorist watch lists, wandering homeless and hungry and dying in the streets.

Just because someone makes a chart and writes something on the internet doesn't make it true.

Bush inherited the problem from Clinton (a leftie.) Uh oh. Now what?

Blame is an excuse. Excuses are bull shit. You either do it or you don't. Real men don't say "but mommy, it was hard!" or "they won't play with me!"

The left conveniently forgets the reason why the right will not work with the President. I'm not saying that it's right, I'm not saying it's a worthy excuse (see above,) but at least acknowledge the fact that the President fucked them and they are sore losers. Sore losers do not like hugging the guy that just fucked them. That is just human behavior, that is just politics. That the President did not see it coming is absolutely mind-boggling, shortsighted, and naive.

EPA Changing The Rules To Steal Private American Water and Property

EPA?s Most Significant Private Property Grab in US History is Imminent

EPA Takes Entire Town Away From Wyoming

WYOMING SUING EPA FOR STEALING 1 MILLION ACRES OF STATE PROPERTY

Your Land is no longer your land! U.S. Government Stealing Land

Supreme Court Justices ?Blast? EPA for Telling Idaho Couple They Can?t Build on ?Protected Wetlands?


How many examples would you like?

Things only gotta get worse people. Everyone keep voting for there team we see how that's working out so far. Vote all these fucks out left/right,set term limits and remove money from politics till then all this bitching with who is right is not gonna fix a god damn thing.

The first sentence is the answer you your problem. wether the ice caps are melting or not has absolutely nothing to do with politics and calling it "typical right wing bull shit" is akin to calling someone a racist to try and win an argument. Science has nothing to do with politics and all to do with proof. People who mix the two do not do their arguments any favours and I'm quite sure that you'll find right wingers who think there is global warming due to humans and left wingers who think that global warming is just a misinterpretation of the facts.

That is avoiding and going around things. The point is that the rich are paying much more money.

I'm sure everything on those Republican rags is true.

I was just listening to Fox news and they that Judge Napolitono guy on...and he said about three things that were untrue concerning the presidency and how it deals with immigration. So how much of a stretch would some website with the words "free" and "patriot" make with the truth? You can't post stuff from crackpot websites and expect to be making some kind of valid point. Those websites are for kooks.

Maybe the Blaze is barely respectable.

and you'd like to live in a country without the EPA? Do you know the kind of shit large chemical companies wish they could get away with? They don't give a shit about the health of you or your family. They only care about doing whatever helps their bottom line.

What do you consider a valid source? MSNBC? :1orglaugh

Say what you want about MSNBC...they're biased, etc..and they are. But they don't go around making shit up. And they follow Republican politics...

I just listened to an interview with a Republican candidate Sunday by an mSNBC anchor...and there was an actual discussion about Republican politics. No finger pointing and baiting into arguments. Does that ever happen on FOX?

If you don't know the difference between MSNBC and those stupid websites, then there's no sense in even trying to have a discussion with you.

Oh I know the difference alright. Everything out of those MSM "news" sources is propaganda and lies. It is manipulation and conditioning. The best thing you could do for yourself would be to stop watching it immediately. This goes for FOX "News" too.

Your answer was to Mark Prince...who was quoting MotherJones.Com the most left wing slanted website in the world.
And your answers coming from Breitbart are coming from a site that is dedicated to conservative ideals.

So it's a "wash". But Mark Prince won't see that. He will believe wholeheartedly what the govt. wants him to believe.

The only good that comes from crockett's obvious trolling posts is that MAYBE one or two rational people reading this will see the utter hypocrisy of both sides and realize that playing "team sports" with politics is what Republicans and Democrats want us to do.

It ensures the power of the two-party system and keeps them in office indefinitely. :(

Meanwhile...the world is getting fucked hard.

I was watching fox during the elections, I was sick of it being one sided, tried to watch MSNBC and was shocked to see that they were even much worse than Fox. You don't have to lie straight out, Covering only parts of the story that you want and ignoring other things is just as bad and pretty much the same thing as lying. So I tried CNN which I thought was neutral only to find out they were doing the same thing. I give up, and don't believe much anything from media.


Edit:
:Oh crap fell into that one... I quit.... have fun, I'm going back to work :1orglaugh

Agreed. But facts are facts and cannot be ignored. These are unlike opinion and slant, and can be found and confirmed in numerous places. The idea is to do your own research and find the truth. Not get hung up on "Ra! Ra! Go team!" and rely on what some talking head is spinning with opinion & script on any given Tuesday.

Blue vs. Red, Dem vs. Rep, Coke vs. Pepsi... it's all duality bullshit. It's the same garbage with a different label so everyone can participate.

Eh what? Did I disagree with that?
Rich pay MORE in BOTH absolute numbers AND percentages.

Example (numbers may be not correct, just for illustration purposes):

Earn 30.000, pay 10% income tax (3000).
Earn 300.000, pay 33% income tax ( 99.000).

So both 33% > 10% and 99.000 > 3000

So not sure what were you trying to say.

While what I was trying to say is clear - rich already pay WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY more. They are being punished for being hard/smart working. Not punished, but more likely raped in taxes.

Even if that 300.000 guy would have 10% instead of 33% rate he would still pay WAY more than that 30.000 guy. Yet it is not enough, they jacked it up to 33%. And left winger morons still claim it is not enough.
Fucking disgrace.

In 2073 humans started colonizing other worlds. Shortly thereafter all the republicans decided to leave the now-poluted-beyond-tolerance-levels Earth and start their own new planet named Conmerica. The dems followed suit and founded their own planet and named it Demerica. Surely everyone would be happy now that everyone on each new world is of the same mind politically, no?

Within 50 years both planets suffered brutal civil wars. Why? Because even with no one to argue with, the fact is people are people. Our need for conflict and strife and bitching about government supercedes our need for peace and cooperation and desire for a free and happy life. If we can't fight over differing politically we'll fight those who have different religious beliefs.

New planets were colonized. On this one only those who are baptist righties who oppose abortion will live there. On this other planet only lefty hedonists who support universal health care and a free monthly pot allowance for everyone are welcome. And guess what? Within 20 years wars broke out on all those planets. Over this, over that, over nothing.

Because let's face it, we humans are assholes.

Face it, the USA has two whole other churches these days. Two whole other religions. The church of Dem, and the church of Con. You're raised to ascribe to one or the other, most simply growing up to regurgitate all the BS their parents fed them over the years. You join your 'church', you give your tithes (and then some), you worship your church-party leaders, and every 4 years you renew your vows.

Fact is you're all a little bit right, and a whole lot of wrong. Hmm... if only the two sides could, oh I don't know, somehow join forces and work together for the common good. Then that would mean you'd be collectively a whole lot more right and a whole lot less wrong, no? Of course it would. Instead we have American men and women right now on match.com putting statements in their profiles like "If you are a Dem then don't bother contacting me".... "If you're a Repub then don't bother contacting me".

How sad is that?

Ding, ding... hear that? That's your reverend Limbaugh ringing the church bell. That's pastor Jon Stewart ringing the church bell. Let us go and pray for our own salvation whilst we throw ridicule and scorn at the other side. Let us block the other side from doing anything good at every turn, for it should be us that makes those changes, not THEM!

Ah but what do I know, I'm just a stupid Canadian. :D