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Jel 07-16-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20160743)
then it's an unnecessary risk to run :2 cents:

less risky to run from a risk than risking an unnecessary risk by not running :2 cents:

wehateporn 07-16-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20160365)
I didn't refer just to surviving, having disease often leaves "marks" that are heritable. You will even herit to battle the conditions in which your parents and grandparents have lived.

So we don't need vaccines, our genes are good enough already thanks to our forefathers

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20160365)
Being immune to certain disease varies by disease to disease and that applies to vaccines as well. For example furher exposures may only result very mild disease, but you will still get it (no ultimate immunity).

So the vaccine immunity doesn't last a lifetime, it's definitely not going to be passed down to the children, whereas natural immunity from catching a disease does last, this means that a child who has been breast-fed by their mother will only have mild reactions to the childhood diseases which she had. Breast-feeding is what we need to push, not vaccination.

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20160365)
Vaccines are not uniform regarding the extra stuff in them. There are a lot of different vaccines.

Correct!

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20160365)
One thing is sure, allergies are not from vaccines. Allergies come from underexposure to diseases, so quite opposite what vaccination does.

Every vaccination will produce allergy antibodies. This is a medically recognized risk of vaccination. Big Pharma did a study on why unvaccinated people out in the countryside didn't have allergies, they came up with the false conclusion that it was because they play in the mud, that is to cover up the true story of the fact that tinkering with the immune system leaves presents behind, so hence unvaccinated do not have allergies to common vaccine components such as peanut oil, pollen and yeast.

wehateporn 07-16-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20160753)
less risky to run from a risk than risking an unnecessary risk by not running :2 cents:

If you are healthy and well-nourished there is no risk of childhood disease, whereas every vaccine comes with a risk :2 cents:

wehateporn 07-16-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20160417)
Update : After one of them came down with small pox at a medical convention they all took the vaccine before leaving the convention.

Not a wise move, a highly dangerous vaccine :2 cents:

wehateporn 07-16-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
Dr. Gregory House: [examining a baby whose mother isn't vaccinating him because she feels it's a scam

This mother has educated herself, probably a doctor or researcher

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
House takes the child's stuffed frog] All natural, no dyes. That's a good business - all-natural children's toys.

Yes indeed, the mother is educated on safe toys as well as dangerous vaccines

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
Those toy companies, they don't arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don't lie about how much they spend on research and development. And the worst that a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

They could also make a dangerous through, with choking hazard parts (eyes, buttons etc), so House is wrong.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins.

Yes, that's going to be a good business, especially with the US having the worst infant mortality in the first world, they also give the most vaccines in the first world, the less vaccines a first world nation gives the better their infant mortality. So the more vaccines the better the baby coffins will sell. Crib death is from the DPT vaccine.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for six months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you.

Or however long she breast feeds, some mothers breastfeed for years.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
They think that you'll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive.

Spend on healthy food yes, but vaccines to keep a healthy kid alive? That's silly! That's just Big Pharma propaganda, good health doesn't come from a needle.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 20160419)
A few hundred parents like you decide they'd rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination

No, it's not about money, we don't avoid vaccines to save 40 bucks. It's about the fact that the vaccines are dangerous and start up highly profitable lifelong diseases, making the pharmaceuticals tens of thousands of $'s over your child's life. e.g Diabetes Type 1

Jel 07-16-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20160769)
If you are healthy and well-nourished there is no risk of childhood disease

:error :helpme

:2 cents:

wehateporn 07-16-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20160841)
:error :helpme

:2 cents:

Which specific mild childhood illnesses would you be concerned about?

VamosNicholas 07-16-2014 05:08 PM

Why do people that are clearly not qualified to talk about such things speak about them so confidently?

Someone that my family knows decided not to vaccinate her children. She thinks she knows better than my uncle who is actually a doctor. Not only has he commented that it is a mistake from a physical health point of view, her children are barred from going to school because they are not vaccinated.

dichotomy 07-16-2014 05:14 PM

Wrong Doctor... (Who?)
I think best quotes (n scary shit) from The Doctor :D are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_KCmkTgNA

wehateporn 07-16-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas (Post 20160886)
Why do people that are clearly not qualified to talk about such things speak about them so confidently?

The average doctor knows very little about vaccines, they are simply at the mercy of the multinational corporations. Here's one doctor who decided to spend time on the topic, she soon turned against vaccination.


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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas (Post 20160886)
Someone that my family knows decided not to vaccinate her children. She thinks she knows better than my uncle who is actually a doctor.

She does know better than him, he's just put his trust in his training, he's too busy to look into the topic and go through the studies.


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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas (Post 20160886)
Not only has he commented that it is a mistake from a physical health point of view, her children are barred from going to school because they are not vaccinated.

He's just a pharmaceutical salesman even if he doesn't know it yet. There are vaccine exemptions available in all areas, but still not going to school would be better than being poisoned :2 cents:

dichotomy 07-16-2014 05:50 PM

well, quotes from House M.D. (as a medical opinion lol) seem legit in this post... so, if you want more scary shit, watch Utopia (about 6 series only) :D

can't add more sci-fi than Dr.Who lol... seriously people, add some more quoted BS from back when (Euclid for some math proof eh?) and you're golden... good marketing move though, respect :D

aka123 07-17-2014 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20160766)
So we don't need vaccines, our genes are good enough already thanks to our forefathers

So the vaccine immunity doesn't last a lifetime, it's definitely not going to be passed down to the children, whereas natural immunity from catching a disease does last, this means that a child who has been breast-fed by their mother will only have mild reactions to the childhood diseases which she had. Breast-feeding is what we need to push, not vaccination.

Correct!

Every vaccination will produce allergy antibodies. This is a medically recognized risk of vaccination. Big Pharma did a study on why unvaccinated people out in the countryside didn't have allergies, they came up with the false conclusion that it was because they play in the mud, that is to cover up the true story of the fact that tinkering with the immune system leaves presents behind, so hence unvaccinated do not have allergies to common vaccine components such as peanut oil, pollen and yeast.

Our ancestors didn't catch every disease ever lived, including future, not to speak of immunity for those.

You completely missed my point about the immunity. Having some disease completely natural way doesn't quarantee any kind on immunity. It depend's like I said. Also about the breast feeding, it isn't any kind of miracle cure. About 20 % up to 50 % of infants died back in the history. Even today there are countries where infant mortality is over 10 %.

I don't know about your local hill billies, but around here everybody gets vaccinated regardless of their location (or at least have a chance for it). Immune system and allergies are also studied broadly and studies have been made about "playing in the dirt", having dogs, etc, and the studies included vaccinated people. You just make up these researches you quote or be very selective.

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Jel 07-17-2014 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20160867)
Which specific mild childhood illnesses would you be concerned about?

sorry, you won't get a detailed answer from me in dumbfuck threads like these. I'm quite happy knowing you talk shit on this subject, without feeling the need to spell it out for you, so you can ignore it anyway :2 cents:

Your post I quoted to elicit this quote tells me everything I need to know, and that any kids you have in the future are being put at unnecessary risk by your myopic views on this subject. May well be that you feel vaccines are an unnecessary risk also, so choose to go the route of not having them administered, but this:

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20160867)
If you are healthy and well-nourished there is no risk of childhood disease

is pretty fucking ignorant. If that's what you are basing your views on, you could be in for a very rude awakening.

Jel 07-17-2014 04:48 AM

I just realised, you on medicine is like markham on traffic. Walls of retarded shit and un-logic, with no real-world experience, yet the absolute belief you have it nailed down to a tee.

Kolargol 07-17-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shake (Post 20160211)
Vaccines are probably still the greatest medical discovery to date.

Yes they are.

Every hour 14 children die of measles. Wehateporn probably doesn't live in a country where children don't get vaccinated.

NewNick 07-17-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20161351)
Yes they are.

Every hour 14 children die of measles. Wehateporn probably doesn't live in a country where children don't get vaccinated.

Wales I believe.

Which explains a great deal about his stoopidity.

http://lic.me/i/13o75


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