Perhaps you should have read the entire thread.

Poor plane was flying over Ukraine minding its own business and got so many cookies stuffed in it that it ended up overloaded and fell out of the sky :(

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...pt-356545.html

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?

“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.

Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

They say on TV it’s AN-26 transport plane, but they say it’s written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine’s territory?

Nikolay Kozitsin: That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn’t be f…cking flying. There is a war going on.

St. John's, Antigua

Was it easy to relocate?

Visa not required :winkwink:

It could be also

at dutch embassy in Kyiv. anyone got pics from Moscow?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsxuLDYCUAASOO6.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)

"Effective firing range

up to 6 km"

so if it flights at 30000 ft it's not possible.

WTF no updates for 2 weeks?

pics from Boeing 777 crash
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_or.../5/3638531.png


Boeing 777 engine

http://www.dailytechinfo.org/uploads...130425_2_1.jpg

And the length of stay then?
Any schemes to stay year around?

Did rebels also had second part/component of system?

The Buk missile system

1.The acquisition radar component (several variants have differing capabilities) allows the system to identify, track and target selected targets.

2.The command component is intended to discern "friendly" military aircraft from foes (IFF), prioritize multiple targets, and pass radar targeting information to the missile launchers.

3.The missile launcher component can carry a variety of missiles (as listed below) and may be able to engage more than one target simultaneously.

4.The logistics component carries additional (reload) missiles and provides other supplies and parts for the system and the operators.

any news from black boxes?

why they do not public anything from black boxes? where are audio records?

where are proofs that rebels or russians did this?
where are satellite photos from usa?

on the news today..

i believe everyone on the ground is busy fighting to get control of the area that there is supposed to be a ceasefire in

I have read today that international investigation commission had to delay their visit on site because of heavy fire in that area. Ukrainian government troops trying to take control over this area.

ahh, no ceasefire.

"We declare that we will guarantee the safety of international experts on the scene as soon as Kiev concludes a ceasefire agreement," Andrei Purgin, deputy premier of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, said in a statement. He urged Kiev to "immediately conclude such an agreement" with the rebels.

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