dead birds are not the earth. smokestacks of shit we spew pale in comparison to the shit a super eruption from a massive volcanic caldera puts out- volcanic ash 5 feet deep over an entire continent with sulfer clouds raining down sulfer rain and gobs of other shit.

all the nuclear explosions we've ever done don't compare to the amount of radiation the Earth gets from the Sun, the galaxy and the universe over 4.6 billion years

plastic pollution has absolutely zero consequence on Earth

oil fires? please, how much oil has burned naturally over 4.5 billion years? Do you realize how much oil is spewing out into the ocean every single second due to cracks and fissures in the ocean floor? metric shit tons, that is how much!

and that's the problem with these sorts of threads, people don't change their personal behaviors due to figurative speaking. they (we) need direct, honest, simple directions. Rhetoric simply does not work for changing people's behaviors.

here's a great example highlighting the fact that Earth will be just fine::::

The Permian-Triassic extinction happened about 251 million years ago and was Earths worst mass extinction. 95 percent of all species, 53 percent of marine families, 84 percent of marine genera, and an estimated 70 percent of land species such as plants, insects and vertebrate animals were killed during this catastrophe. Direct evidence for this period has not been found but many scientists believe a comet or asteroid impact led to this extinction. Others think that volcanic eruption, coating large stretches of land with lava from the Siberian Traps, which are centered around the Siberian City of Tura, and related loss of oxygen in the seas were the cause of this mass extinction. Still other scientists suspect that the impact of the comet or asteroid triggered the volcanism.

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yep.

the language of climate change is very loosy goosy...just in this thread, human pollution harming animals is called hurting our "earth" when mark really means we are hurting other wildlife.

always lost in climate change & pollution threads is that our overpopulation is the 800 pound gorilla threatening future generations. it does not threaten our earth, it threatens the habitat we live in, & the standard of living for future people.

i just wish the debate could focus on how to stop kardiashians & snookis from breeding at unprecedented rates instead of moving to expensive technologies that wont solve the problem as long as reality TV stars keep multiplying.

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Except for the 70 % species that died. Of course we mammals triumphed after that.

Even if aliens would come and wipe out everything living from Earth, and then occupy Earth, plant own plants and other creatures, the Earth would still be fine, but we wouldn't.

Actually human's actions are more far reaching than just directly affecting to wildlife (every other living thing). We shape also the non-living environment. Might not be "hurting" as it refers to living things those can feel, but anyway shaping the non-living Earth and thus affecting to the conditions for current and future generations of life.

humans and their self-importance lol.

yes i agree. it may be that someday the only elephants & pandas in existence are the ones in zoos. & that our behavior is slowly changing shorelines & the re-organization of habitats in the deep ocean.

bottom line in life is that we have to live with the consequences of what we do. I am certain that humans will adapt to the changes they cause to the earth. so i tend to worry more about the quality of life today & ensuring resources are available for future people.

but carbon taxes & electric vehicles will not change nothing so long as population growth resembles a rocket launch path.

I just looked out onto the ocean, the world is still here 250 million years after the example.

But again, if you have any proofs examples of the earth not making it through just this one example of catastrohy, feel free to fill me in.

Otherwise your lollies arent particular ly effective in countering the fact that the earth is still here.

The moon used to be part of our planet

Do you want the earth to be more like a city in India or the way it is now?

I couldn't give 2 shits. I couldn't give a single shit about the fucking planet earth in fact.

I've already stated in this thread and I've mentioned it plenty before, I live a non-polluting lifestyle as best I can on a daily basis. While gfyers here are showing off pics of their cars in one thread and yapping about not destroying the planet, I'm riding my bike or catching the bus because I choose not to pollute my environment and be a fucking hypocrite at the same time.

I don't force that on people nor do I expect people to live their lives like I choose to live mine. I made that choice based on what is important to me, not the planet, not afucking bird in some stupid fucking rain forest on a continent I've never been to. My world.

My actions are more than the gibberish spouted here on gfy threads by people driving hybrid cars flickinc ciggarette butts into the fucking streets while sipping bullshit designer water from 7oz plastic bottles talking nonsense about destroying the planet.

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh You tell em :thumbsup

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I just read what i wrote, that came across much more harsh than intended, my apologies to squirtit.

Sounds like you channeled George Carlin there for a bit. :winkwink:

First, thanks for riding your bike. I want you to know I care about the planet too. I drive electric, ride my bike, don't smoke (and don't throw butts into the streets like so many fucking asshole smokers do). I don't liter. I recycle alot. Any old computers that can't be donated or given away are recycled too. I drink water from the tap and don't buy bottled water from Nestle. I'm all for Solar, Wind, Hydro and even Nuclear. I'm all against Oil. I'll never bring a gas boat to a no-motor lake (law here). I'll never leave anything behind when camping. I won't burn leaves or grass. I won't use BBQ brickquettes, and never heat my home with oil or even natural gas.

Our planet needs a little love.

not as sad as you thinking we are that significant.. we are absolutely not..

Amen Brother Glen :thumbsup