Uhm actually in 9 out of 10 times it IS that easy.

The problem is sticking to it. Most people are weak and start slacking after a few weeks. Specially when they don't see any real results after only a month :2 cents:

You obviously didn't read much of what I wrote in detail. I clearly stated that I weighed 235lbs. And yes, it's pretty fucking obvious that I would add that 400lbs to my own body weight. I'm not fucking retarded.

I understand that ALL too well. But I wouldn't expect you to understand that 99% of it is from laziness and not eating properly. Give a fat person a 1,500 calorie a day diet and they'll start dropping weight without doing a damn thing. Your body burns calories even when you're sitting around. It burns calories to maintain your body temp, breathing, and keeping your body going.

Sorry, I'm calling bullshit on this one. Phelps takes over 10,000 calories a day, but he's also burning them off as quickly as they're taken. If he just said fuck it, and quit swimming, he would go to a regular diet without a problem at all. A good friend played Defensive Tackle in the NFL for 10 years. He had to maintain weight at 300-310lbs while he played. He's been retired for about 10 years, now he weighs 210lbs and is as healthy as an Ox. People with discipline like that have no problem changing or manipulating their habits - and they're very in tune with their bodies. They have something that most fat people don't; self control and discipline.

Obesity is a cause of depression. There is medication and treatment for both Thyroid and Diabetes. The secret is that you have to follow the instructions. You have to follow the diet plan, take the medications, etc. Most fat people have no self control or discipline. I'm not going to say all of them, but a vast majority.

Has she fully healed from the wreck? Is she mobile? Can she walk? If you answered yes, then I don't feel sorry for her at all. Maybe she can use the accident as justification for getting fat, but deep down inside she's depressed and not willing to make a change. If she can get up, she can eat properly and do basic, basic exercises. So yes, I would be a judgmental prick if I ever met her because frankly, I loathe lazy people with no motivation or drive. But I would be judging her character, not her weight. :2 cents:

THIS x10000 People dont realize consistency is the key to staying looking the same. Now when I say consistent I mean I weigh all my meals, and eat them at almost the same time every day. I found what works, what keeps me in single digit (6-9%) BF percentages while staying lean. 42-4500 calories of goodness per day with only 2 cheat MEALS per week (NOT DAYS!) my cheat meals will consist of either steak or sushi...i don't really deviate from those two things.

People think eating a few low calorie portions here and there will make a tremendous change...well it will but not when youre eating 1K cal of chips at night. Portion control is everything. Weigh, prep, plan...its the key to success

Those are my friends, Goddess Patty and her slave. In her prime, was one of the most popular SSBBWS in the world.
She is the one who squashed Wee Man in Jackass Number Two.

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And there's what many in this thread have the problem with. Out of ignorance of what depression is, the end result is being a judgemental prick (to use the phrase mentioned already).

You aren't seeing that what you loathe in someone else because you admit you don't understand the circumstances, and them living in that mental state, is leading others to be judgemental pricks by labelling you as a judgemental prick :upsidedow

Which is why I'm now gonna take my own advice and stay the fuck out of everyone else's thinking :pimp

A long time ago...

It a place far far away...

People minded their own business and didn't judge others by looks and weight and trivial shit like that...

But that WAS a long time ago...

NOW...

People are judgmental asses... :321GFY

Bullshit. People have been judgmental since we were cavemen.

Well you can certainly tell who is carrying around a few extra pounds in this thread.
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Yeaa that is what most people dont get. Its all about diet and has little to do with your workouts. Simple as calories in and calories out.

I disagree. It is not that simple.

You're right.

When I hit the 13% body fat range, it became apparent that a calorie is not just a calorie. Any further progress I've been seeing is using the calorie in calorie out mentality + increasing the quality of those calories.

Exactly.

That is why it is harder to lose the last 20lbs or last 5 lbs etc... If the formula were simply calories in - calories out then sticking points like that should not exist.

There are many variables.

The last 20lbs!? Lol cmon man its really not THAT hard. When you get to single digit BF percentages thats when things get a little "tough" and you have to take meal timing into consideration, which I do. I stay at 7% currently eat 4200 cals 40% carbs/40% Protein/20% Fat Macro break down doing no cardio and weight training 4-5 days a week. Carbs are focused around my workouts and when im active during the day. You fuel your body for what youre doing at the time.

What's worked for me the past few years is Lean Gains protocol for eating. Might work for those who are having issues losing weight.

I don't have any really "fat" people around me because we simply do not have that a lot here over here in The Netherlands (Europe?), but what I do see in programs like Obese and on TLC (yeah I know, prolly the extreme cases) is that the brakes are hit much too late. When starting to workout is already an issue and cooking healthy (or learning to!) is already too exhausting. While most of those people also have loved ones around them that could have intervened when it got too far, but seeing some replies in this thread, this is a very delicate issue. I would rather have a fight for a week with my loved ones right now though, than a fight for a year or longer to lose the weight.

funny you should mention that, I've been out in Las Vegas the last few weeks on business and the hotel that I was staying at was hosting https://www.biggervegas.com/ - I never saw so many rascals in my life.

it's a shame that people would actually let themselves get like that, despite the obvious health problems.

I have some funny pics if you want to see...

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and you can't forget the gay bear convention, that was the week before... I was lucky enough to be there for both...

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I feel gratitude and compassion when I read threads like this.

Prince Markie Dee and Kool Rock-Ski both lost quite a bit of weight. They're still alive.


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Darren Robinson a.k.a. "The Human Beat Box" didn't. He died in 1995.

But according to your logic of [Calories In - Calories Out = Weight Loss] it should NOT be a little tough.

I agree it is a little tough at that point but it proves the argument wrong that is is SIMPLY a caloric deficit that is needed.

Many variables effect weight loss/gain.

I completely disagree. I went to the gym for two years straight, five times a week, every morning, and walked out of the gym every day sweating. I also dieted. I thought I would exercise and reduce the amount of food I ate, and eat better, and magically I would loose weight. Two years later I weighed ten pounds more.

There is a number of factors to weight gain and loss and you are only discussing two of them. Sleep, metabolism, and stress come to mind.

I can pin point the exact moment I started to gain weight - it was when I quit smoking. This is very common.

But a single visit to the gym - or going for two months - does not magically fix the problem.

Could Always Turn It Around
 

Its hard for me to understand how a person could let themselves get obese unless you have a medical condition, but its always possible to turn it around. Just stop eating so much, not too hard or I guess it's hard because we wouldn't have fat people.

Im pissed off Mexico passed the USA as the fattest nation! Murica needs to step up its game.

Love the new manatee exhibit at Sea World
 

Love the new manatee exhibit at Sea World

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hence the reason why I say 9 out of 10 times :2 cents:

Still my point stands.

So cigarette is helping diet?Tho i must admit if you would ask me do i know a fat person which smokes,i couldn't remember anyone.Perhaps i should start smoking lol

I was at the event. I would have gladly taken a moment to hear your concerns.

Anyway,I know that woman in your funny picture. She happens to be a lovely person who has lost over 100 pounds in the last year without surgery and was allowing herself a weekend of feeling like a human being.

I do think attempting to look after yourself is important and it is a shame when someone has lost the will to do so but that includes substance abuse,drinking,reckless unprotected sex and any number of life choices that isn't as obvious to the casual observer. Of course, I also think it is a shame when a grown adult doesn't have the courage to say something to a person's face but sneaks photos he can use to mock them from the safety of his keyboard.

I would say it is that SIMPLE but not that easy. Big differences.

Some people are weak minded in many ways and can't stick to things too long including diet, exercise, money management, learning a language etc...

But for many people who use overeating to cope with emotional pain (and I would say that that is a BIG percentage of people who are overweight) it is not because they are weak.

Menopause!!! Men and women age, go through the change, get grumpy, their penis/vagina/anus stops working as well as it used too. They develop lumps where there weren't any, other lumps sag, they don't see so well any more. Organs stop working or slow down/speed up, life's repressed traumas have a way of catching up with you when you age also.

Them damn ear hairs that grow inward will drive you fucking nuts!

And no regimen, drugs, diet, supplements work exactly the same on any 2 persons. Sooner or later we all become victims of aging and gravity.

Wait till you have to tuck your balls into your socks to keep them for getting rug burn at the office.

I think this thread has caused me to gain 20lbs. A bunch of chubs and chasers in the house. The truth shall set us free!

They look like a species of walrus but without the tusk


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EXACTLY!!! When I walk 60-120 minutes a day, AND DON'T EAT AFTER 4pm, I lose weight. When I stay stationery and eat late, I gain weight. Simple, right?

BUT NOT EASY.

You've always struck me as a bit of a dumbass in certain respects of life, diet-and-exercise is one of them.

Funny thing how I see you taking selfies holding a large pizza.

I'll be turning 30 soon, and it is a little easier to pack on weight then when I was maybe 16-17 but it's only maybe 20-30% easier, not much considering. While I'm not Ripped I can still bench more than my own weight and have a resting heart rate below 50 bpm.

I do long burns at the gym 3-4 times a week. All gyms should have wifi right now, get out your favorite Netflix queue or shows and do 60-90 minutes on the elliptical (watch tv at the gym not your house) throw in some weights for muscular build. You will lose weight this way pretty quick, well most will anyway. Eating a pizza afterwards will counter that.

Unless you have a very unique medical problem which makes you obese, if you can't figure out how to lose weight you're just too damn stupid. :2 cents:

When it comes down to it, it is simple physics.

Our bodies expend energy and if you put in more than you burn and you're body is good at storing what you don't expend immediately, you will put on weight in the form of fat.

Working behind a keyboard a lot requires that I get and exercise, lest I become a fat fuck like one of the butt hurts in this thread.

Holy shit dude. Enjoy life a little, will you please? Sushi is your 'cheat food'? OMG.
Eat a twinkie, please.
(Though in this crazy biz that can mean something altogether differant, so....eat a doughnut, please. No wait....um, eat some candy....dammit, porn has ruined all examples for me.)

I've been gone for a fucking while and this fucking thread comes up?? WTF?...do I really need to read through it all? God damn it you fuckers this is going to be a waste of my time unless you have figured out how I can get paid to read GFY threads? Anyone?? ... god damn this is where I throw my drink in your face and tell you to meet me outside!

Of course it is not easy to actually do it, proof is all around you. However it often is the sollution and the sollution IS easy.

Ok I could only read this thread through the first couple pages but wtf? You all don't understand the complexity of each individual human being that may or may not be fat. The simple truth that some people eat and rely on that as a crutch the same as you may rely on fucking the girl with big tits and a slim waist? Really? For some of the plus sized humans in this world they look forward to eating a bowl of ice cream like you might look forward to fucking some sexy chicks so if that is their vice then they might end up having a body that is plump and stuffed with fat! In their mind I'm sure they don't figure they can stop at a certain point but rather look to others and the remarks that others make. However when the weight keeps them from doing the things the would like to do then sure, it may be a warning to stop eating McDonalds double cheese burgers but fuck they those cheese burgers only cost a dollar and the heathly alternative costs them five bucks if they want to consume a salad with light vinigarette dressing. Personally I've been to the obese side and I've been to the "too skinny" side as well but it comes down to a point of personal health. If you can't walk because you are too fat then I'm sure it crosses your mind that you indeed need to loose some of the weight but besides that if you are accomplishing the things you want in life then maybe being overweight is not something that concerns you. Infact there are so many people that might encourage you to keep eating and ....fuck this thread should die....just had to get my 2cents in ;) ... 2 points need to be made: 1) are you too large to do the things you want? ...then fucking change it and make some goals to get happy 2)if you really think you have a disease then seek some help with your habits and/or consult a weight loss surgeon to staple up your stomach so that you simply cannot obsorb the amount of food that your mind tells you to eat.

Fat == will-less and ugly fuck/cunt, and yes, I'm judgemental. All that you need to keep yourself fit is (1) check your weight regularly, (2) eat less calories than you spend (so count your calories and either do more sport or eat less, or both) and (3) - eat more or less healthy food, without trans-fats and with minimum of carbohydrates. Disabled people are the exception. Starving people in Africa don't get fat, your fat is your guilt only.

A healthy man or women should have enough will to be moderate in food, it's really not that hard.

Now some advice.
If you see that you start having problems with weight the first thing to do is to start count your calories. You have to ensure that every day you eat the same number of calories. This will be your point of reference. Having such point is absolutely vital, without it any diet will likely fail. Then in a week weight yourself. If you see your weight went up just correct your ration and have 10% less calories a day. Then repeat it in the next week. Keep cutting calories untill you see you start losing 3-4 kg/month. Eat more if you see you start losing more than 4 kg/month. To make this easier eat less carbohydrates (sugar, white bread, sweet fruits) and exclude transfats - ensure all vegetable oil you eat is either olive or sunflower but not cheap palm or rape. This will allow you keep eating more protein- and fat-rich food, you won't get too hungry. It's really not that hard when you get used to it, you need just a little bit of will.

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