That´s the SU-39 previous SU-25TM and that version only Russia has.

Do you know that SU-39 can fly on diesel if it needs too in case there is no kerosene around.

There are some really ignorant people on this board.. Holy fuck.

That´s correct Sir wonderful knowledge on aviation

http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-con...in-800x484.jpg

maybe putin's sad because he has to spend so much time doing those edits himself on the one kremlin computer!

FYI: Russian government has never been located in Kremlin. It's located here:

http://www.moshol.ru/photos/ndpf.jpg

Kremlin is a historical object (you can visit it as a tourist). Also it's a place where Russian president works :winkwink:

Do you really think that some of Putin's team is sitting in Kremlin and trying to edit Wikipedia? Seriously?

Exactly. As I said above, there is few different modifications of Su-25 and that's about the service ceiling which is not the maximum one. There are many war experts on GFY who knows everything. Personally I have no idea which exactly max ceiling every existing modification of Su-25 has.

This is GFY :pimp

this started with no jets at all.. now there is jets, but they don't fly that high.. now they will fly that high, only briefly, and finally, there is different variants that have no problem flying that high.

i am not sure how customized these planes are.. do you have further info on that?

Sure. And they even have no idea what VPN and Tor are when it comes to altering of Wikipedia :thumbsup

I do and already explained you above.

I was not aware of that. So how do you account for the wiki edit and IP?

Nice work on this.

Trying to add:
I wonder how the specs on the k version vary from the specs on the specific version shown.

не, это Медведев с айфона хуячил :) айпи прямо на площади между Кремлевским дворцом съезда и Арсеналом.

Su-25M1 (10k)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force

http://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/aviakos...hnika/84-cy-25

Su-25S has a ?Service Ceiling? of 10,000m

Su-25
Su-25UB
Su-25K
Su-25UTG
Su-25M1
Su-25UBM1

and i don't even wanna bother with the rest, or what sort of upgrades occured at the end of 2011, while this wiki is pulling from pre-2011.

damn things are about as old as i am.. i am just picturing some slack jawed yokel with a magic wrench that can make these things breath fire

so far i dont even believe there was a jet

i have no reason to believe anything else than even that Strelkow dude posted himself and then quickly deleted: they thought they shot down an ukrainian transporter plane

Have no idea. Perhaps it's a joke of the Wikipedia team, no? :) I mean the guys that have access to the databases.

This:

http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/...0/tankwing.jpg

They thought they shot down an ukrainian transporter plane and ukraininan Su-25. They told they shot down TWO planes.

hey fair enough

Those db admins are quite the anti-russian jokers!

Either way, i am glad putin is de-escalating the situation. Yall need to wrap it up and return to peace in that region.

nice boobs!! Whats her instagram?

shit, she is married
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBQKh6KJ4r8

Indeed :2 cents: I just have some serious doubts regarding his power on the situation there. When Putin has asked these DNR guys to postpone with the referendum, they simple told him to go fuck himself. Just sayin'...

I would not be surprised if a dumb drunk Russian shot down the plane by mistake.. Oh wai.. That's what happened..

As you may know, Moscow never sleeps and the Russian government too.. :winkwink:





:pimp

Except for the SU-25TM that was supposed to become SU-39 but was never built in large scale and only Russia has few of them none of the others SU-25 can fly higher then 7 000 meters due to some designs issues that will not discuss here.

Look at the builder website they even state their latest model which is the K will not go above 7 000 meters empty.. never mind with weapons.

you have mentioned you are a pilot.. oh, i believe 18 times now

what is the difference between a service ceiling and a maximum ceiling?

oh! my mistake, 'absolute ceiling'.

btw, you said 'non other' can fly at 10m, but Su-25M1 has a service ceiling at 10m.. is this another plane with multiple designations?

I can say that I confused those two, but catching jet plane above you is not very easy if you have small rate of climb, as you would have above service ceiling (until it's finally 0). And the planes controllability weakens also.

Yep, the sky is as crowded as Gaza .... dense .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

interesting the coincidence of being told to remain at 32k feet, when that seems to be the max operating ceiling of for different versions of these jets

The GFY pilot experts in action :thumbsup :)

A new version just came up: https://translate.google.com/transla...%2F&edit-text=

The most important part of the article:

Now sum it up with Russian reports about outstanding activity of the Ukrainian SAM's in that area - 8 "Купол" system were active right at the same time when MH17 was shot down. And they were the first ones who reported that the plane was shot down with a BUK system. That's very interesting, isn't it?

This is why I'm still giving 50/50 to both: Ukrainian rebels and Ukrainian army (the masters of shooting at civilian planes during the exercises).

<popcorn mode on>

First is not called maximum ceiling it´s absolute ceiling.

Service ceiling is the altitude airplanes are designed to fly safely

Absolute ceiling is max altitude an airplane can fly check also coffin corner.

Check on the links what happen when any aircraft flies at their limit service ceiling just bellow absolute ceiling.

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2007/aar0701.pdf

Easier read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacl...es_Flight_3701

Any variant of SU-25 (except TM) will stall into a flat spin like a mofo at around 8 000 meters and due to it´s high wing design is not easy to recover.

Enough said do you know or at least have knowledge that Nato studies in deep each military equipment Russia has and the other way also applies.

The first one to report the crash was Putin on a call to Obama.

O' rly?

except TM and M1.. i didn't check the rest

Aha, and they are posting to Wikipedia from their real IP's. LOL ))))