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Vendzilla 08-27-2014 02:00 PM

Here are some facts,

AKA123 doesn't know shit about the subject and feels it's ok to be an asshole but demand decorum when answering him, he's a troll

Crockett full of shit, or Crockett science.

People have been teaching their children to shoot firearms since they were invented, if your child is not ready at the age of 8, you have already failed as a parent.

You don't put an automatic weapon in the hands of a 9 year old.

If you are teaching anyone to use an automatic weapon, you put 3 rounds max in the magazine and see how they do, then 3 again. Slowly putting in more. The range teacher was an idiot and paid the price. I watched the video on the news, he was an idiot for putting more than 3 rounds in the firearm, you don't do that at any age!

2MuchMark 08-27-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20205939 to AKA123
Fuck you are an idiot!

My daughter has always read above the grade level, has always excelled above the other children in the class because she was given a love for books at an early age. She had plenty of time to be a kid, she had a pony, well she actually had two. She rode in parades. She had a better childhood than most and you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. She grew a garden, she went camping, she shot guns with her daddy, she rode in hot rods, she learned to weld with an arc welder at age 12. I guess your parents let the TV raise you, shows in your ignorant comments

Do the world a favor and don't have any off spring

So just because you were able to give your kid everything she ever wanted makes aka123 an idiot?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20205928 to AKA123

You seriously are an idiot!

I guess you didn't learn to read until much later in life! LOL

Christ man, why are you picking on him? He's right - Airguns are dangerous too. They won't kill a person but imagine how you would feel if your daughter shot out someones eye? Or her own?

Just because you gave your daughter a gun and taught her to shoot doesn't mean its right. Guns are dangerous and the laws are lopsided. A kid can't learn to drive until they are at least 16. Why should a kid be allowed to shoot a gun before they are 16?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20205959 to AKA123
Did your teachers teach you with rocks to the head, Can you not understand what I have said?

What you are saying makes no fucking sense, are you that fucking retarded?

Never said anything before 8, why is that an important thing, you fucking retard, instead you bring up babies? Are you high?

First you say use air guns, then you don't, make up your fucking mind!

And if you are going to question how I raised my kid, please tell me where I went wrong when at 26 she has a degree and is a veteran you low life piece of shit!


Squad leader, wtf is that? Does that mean you are in the boy scouts?
What the fuck do you do in this industry?

You said "Fuck" 4 times and insulted AKA 8 times in a single post, just because you don't agree with him. Why so hostile? Are you scared that maybe he is right and you are wrong?


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20205966 to AKA123
Fuck you low life, if you don't want attitude, don't act like a fucking moron!

5....6... plus 2 more insults. Wow man... have beer or something.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20205985 to ATTICUS
Fuck off shit head, you post one persons opinion and state that it's fact, your're as fucking ignorant and this other troll that can't even say what he does in the industry

Ok, off to do some work on my bike, have a nice day shit for brains.

I fucking hate trolls


Vendzilla no one is trolling you. People are just expressing their opinions, and you are getting all bent out of shape about it. As much as you love guns, others thing guns are wrong and unnecessary. Many gun lovers have been scared into buying guns with the usual right wing scare tactics. I don't know if you are one of them but sometimes you sound like it. Why not either accept the idea that guns can kill and that maybe children should not be allowed to use them, or, provide a good answer why you think they should.

dillonaire 08-27-2014 02:26 PM

Kids in other countries handle automatic weapons all the time.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...d_soldiers.jpg

aka123 08-27-2014 02:27 PM

The joke is that my opinion even isn't that much different about kids and guns. I would just wait a few more years, but apparently it's 8 years old or nothing. But no Uzis, or machine guns or whatever. I hunt and sport shoot, not preparing for personal war.

Bryan G 08-27-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20206164)
Every once in a while I underestimate the stupidity of some of the people here; I apologize.

Ya just like your post in the burger king moving to Canada thread. You are one ignorant old fool. Odd that you won't reply when you got owned there eh?

2MuchMark 08-27-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207254)
Here are some facts,

AKA123 doesn't know shit about the subject and feels it's ok to be an asshole but demand decorum when answering him, he's a troll

I love how you think everything you think you know about anyone or anything is a "Fact". Just because you say something is what it is does not make it true. I read what AKA said and I agree with most of what he said. Your "Facts", are "false", and I suspect you are lying to yourself as much as you lie to everyone else here on GFY.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207254)
People have been teaching their children to shoot firearms since they were invented, if your child is not ready at the age of 8, you have already failed as a parent.

The best thing a parent can do is love their child and teach the value of live and life and the world. Of course teach them too that there are bad people and bad things and to learn how to defend themselves. You can also teach them good sportsmanship and how to shoot but only when they have reached an age where they know right from wrong, and especially WHAT DEATH IS.

Me being a geek though, the first thing I would want them to learn is SCIENCE, but I think you have problems with this idea so I'll leave it for another thread.


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20205463)
I fail to understand why a nine year old should be taught how to use a firearm.

Children are children and shouldn't be given weapons. This is why we don't give six year old knives and why we don't let children play in the kitchen (so they don't burn themselves on the stove). We also don't let our nine year olds drive. (Or vote or drink or smoke.)

Exactly. I agree with you 100%.

aka123 08-27-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20207289)
Kids in other countries handle automatic weapons all the time.

And they know the style, as they have had bullets in mothers milk.

http://www.mensdomain.co.nz/mensdoma.../gangsta-4.jpg

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20207286)
So just because you were able to give your kid everything she ever wanted makes aka123 an idiot?



Christ man, why are you picking on him? He's right - Airguns are dangerous too. They won't kill a person but imagine how you would feel if your daughter shot out someones eye? Or her own?

Just because you gave your daughter a gun and taught her to shoot doesn't mean its right. Guns are dangerous and the laws are lopsided. A kid can't learn to drive until they are at least 16. Why should a kid be allowed to shoot a gun before they are 16?



You said "Fuck" 4 times and insulted AKA 8 times in a single post, just because you don't agree with him. Why so hostile? Are you scared that maybe he is right and you are wrong?




5....6... plus 2 more insults. Wow man... have beer or something.





Vendzilla no one is trolling you. People are just expressing their opinions, and you are getting all bent out of shape about it. As much as you love guns, others thing guns are wrong and unnecessary. Many gun lovers have been scared into buying guns with the usual right wing scare tactics. I don't know if you are one of them but sometimes you sound like it. Why not either accept the idea that guns can kill and that maybe children should not be allowed to use them, or, provide a good answer why you think they should.

I have you on ignore, but I'm going to answer you because you were such a fucking asshole to me.

Every time you and I get into it, you bring up I hate Obama because he's black, basically calling me a racist. You have a limited imagination and have nothing to offer in this or any conversation.

That shit for brains AKA has been dogging me in many threads, he is a fucking troll, bringing up things like I said them when I never said that, trying to put words in my mouth and even using the word babies when we were talking about 8 year olds.

You are a fucking moron, have always been a fucking moron and have nothing but shit between your ears, ok?

back on ignore

When you learn to read, maybe I will take you off ignore

aka123 08-27-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
That shit for brains AKA has been dogging me in many threads, he is a fucking troll, bringing up things like I said them when I never said that, trying to put words in my mouth and even using the word babies when we were talking about 8 year olds.

The baby thing was question, since I was trying to find out your opinion about the proper age to teach gun safety (in any way). Also, I think that this is first thread where I even answered to you (not many times anyways). All this fighting makes it feel like a lifetime, but still. We are new acquaintances, and look how well it started. :)

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20207290)
The joke is that my opinion even isn't that much different about kids and guns. I would just wait a few more years, but apparently it's 8 years old or nothing. But no Uzis, or machine guns or whatever. I hunt and sport shoot, not preparing for personal war.

So you don't have any kids

And you wouldn't share your sport of guns with your kids?

You want a happy, well rounded kid, share your sports with them as I have and millions more in the US.

The NRA has many youth programs.

You shouldn't wrap your kids in bubble wrap

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20207312)
The baby thing was question, since I was trying to find out your opinion about the proper age to teach gun safety (in any way). Also, I think that this is first thread where I even answered to you (not many times anyways). All this fighting makes it feel like a lifetime, but still. We are new acquaintances, and look how well it started. :)

You know fucking well that I stated that my kid was 8, so where the FUCK do you think I think the proper age is to teach a kid? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING IGNORANT?

You're a fucking troll, leave this place

Atticus 08-27-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207254)

People have been teaching their children to shoot firearms since they were invented, if your child is not ready at the age of 8, you have already failed as a parent.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:helpme

aka123 08-27-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207316)
So you don't have any kids

And you wouldn't share your sport of guns with your kids?

You want a happy, well rounded kid, share your sports with them as I have and millions more in the US.

The NRA has many youth programs.

You shouldn't wrap your kids in bubble wrap

Don't you read what I write? My kids would learn to shoot at the age of 8, but with airguns, and later on when they are a bit older, I would introduce them for "real guns". Well, I would let them test fire .22 earlier on, but just to fill curiosity.

Yes, NRA has probably a lot of things, I don't doubt that. Even if I wouldn't introduce my kids to guns at all, it wouldn't be anykind of "bubble wrap". Most kids in the world aren't introduced to guns at early age or many (or most) at all in their lives, and they do just fine.

I am anyways mostly to hunting and fishing. Guns are just means to get prey.

aka123 08-27-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207319)
You know fucking well that I stated that my kid was 8, so where the FUCK do you think I think the proper age is to teach a kid? ARE YOU THAT FUCKING IGNORANT?

You're a fucking troll, leave this place

You said that you teached your kid to shoot at the age of 8, but we were talking about gun safety and they are not synonyms. Also, I was asking more general opinion. So many things can influence what you did regarding your children. Maybe you were in Vietnam or something, and you missed your opportunity to teach your kid to shoot at the age of 4. Or maybe your kid was so wonderchild that you teached her earlier, than you would have otherwise.

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20207327)
You said that you teached your kid to shoot at the age of 8, but we were talking about gun safety and they are not synonyms. Also, I was asking more general opinion. So many things can influence what you did regarding your children. Maybe you were in Vietnam or something, and you missed your opportunity to teach your kid to shoot at the age of 4. Or maybe your kid was so wonderchild that you teached her earlier, than you would have otherwise.

I said 8, that's what I said, you being the asshole that you are, came back with Babies, like I was the one being an asshole.

You're just trying too hard to back pedal from being an asshole

My daughter is a smart kid, but she learned around the same time I learned, and the same time my father learned.

You're like those idiots that want all BB guns to be painted pink. A BB gun is a fire arm and should not be allowed in the hands of kids that are not responsible with them.

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 20207322)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:helpme

I'm sorry, are you confused?

aka123 08-27-2014 03:49 PM

Whatever, it seems that you don't really read other's messages.

lezinterracial 08-27-2014 03:59 PM

Sad that it has happened before. With worse consequences.

Vendzilla 08-27-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20207390)
Whatever, it seems that you don't really read other's messages.

Fuck You, I read where you said Babies, you were attacking my stand on training my daughter at the age of 8, you are a fucking retarded person if you think bringing up babies as an answer when I told you I trained her at 8!

Or don't you see the difference between 8 and a baby?

What other mental disorders do you have?

I hate trolls that can't even admit they are being trolls.

2MuchMark 08-27-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
I have you on ignore, but I'm going to answer you because you were such a fucking asshole to me.

I am just so damn handsome I am impossible to ignore. :) And sure I was an asshole to you, but you were an asshole to me first. Let's put all that aside now, and express our opinions calmly. Okay? ok.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
Every time you and I get into it, you bring up I hate Obama because he's black, basically calling me a racist. You have a limited imagination and have nothing to offer in this or any conversation.

This subject has nothing to do about racism. It has everything to do with children, with their child like minds and still fragile bodies and relatively weak muscles, handling an Uzi. It also has everything do with a person who made an incredible mistake in putting that child into that situation. He may be dead, but she is damaged forever. An incredibly stupid mistake has caused alot of damage. That is all this conversation is about.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
That shit for brains AKA has been dogging me in many threads, he is a fucking troll, bringing up things like I said them when I never said that, trying to put words in my mouth and even using the word babies when we were talking about 8 year olds.

So what? Why does he get to you? Stick to your facts as you see them, or your opinions as you want to express them, just the way he is doing. To me personally, he makes alot more sense than you not just because I agree with him but because he sticks to the point without getting all bent out of shape.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
You are a fucking moron, have always been a fucking moron and have nothing but shit between your ears, ok?

No, not ok. You think its ok but its not. You have your head in the sand and won't listen or engage in anyone who doesn't agree with you. You are calling me a moron when I am not.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207304)
back on ignore

And this my friend, is why you think the way you do.

Peace.

2MuchMark 08-27-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla;20207408 to AKA123
Fuck You, I read where you said Babies, you were attacking my stand on training my daughter at the age of 8, you are a fucking retarded person if you think bringing up babies as an answer when I told you I trained her at 8!

Or don't you see the difference between 8 and a baby?

What other mental disorders do you have?

I hate trolls that can't even admit they are being trolls.

Vendzilla, an 8 year old is still a baby. It's not an adult obviously and its not a teen. And no matter how old she is today, she is still your "baby", just the way you are still your Mom's baby, to your Mom.

Everyone is very happy that your daughter turned out to be a good, smart, well balanced person. Again, nobody is questioning that.

Alot of people just think that the gun problem in the US is out of control. There are so many deaths. So much killing. So many crazies doing crazy things. Making laws tougher to get guns has nothing at all to do with your rights, and everything to do with making the country a safer place to live in.

I think that people who do not see it this way have been "sold" on the idea that your rights and freedom to own guns is being taken away. I use the word "Sold" on purpose, and people like Ted Nugent, Wayne Lapierre and Charlton Heston are the ones who have sold this to you. Am I wrong? Tell me why good buddy and lets hammer this out.

Jel 08-27-2014 05:27 PM

for a special person in this thread :)


DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 20205503)
wehateporn, is that you?

Nope ZMASTER here

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20205524)
i am living in czech republic, and i am happy i dont need to own gun and have survival skills to go outside of my house. but i know there are some dangerous countries, and if i will have kids there and made any money to move my ass to other country to protect them, i will do it asap, and not teach them how to use gun to shoot at anything that is moving in your garden ... i am really sorry for all the people that must live there and have no other choice ... :2 cents: but if you can move, and you dont but you teach your kids how to use guns instead, you are nothing that piece of stupid dumb ass, and here i am talking nice ... :2 cents:


Whatttttt??????? I wish the world was perfect, but it's not.

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 20205563)
Good lord, what a kook. Why is it that the biggest supporters of guns are the exact people that shouldn't have guns?

They say we need a way to keep the mentally challenged away from fire arms? A good first step would be to find people that think they need guns to protect themselves from a government takeover.

I guess George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founders were crazy for thinking we needed guns to protect us from the government. Those crazy bastards, who the fuck did they think they were?

If I am considered the crazy one it's because I have removed the blinders that the majority still gladly wear. I think my country is on a path that leads to a subjugated citizenry. Of which I and my loved ones are a part of. If you don't see the militarization of the police in the U.S. you are fucking blind.

Yes, I put ideas out there that are on the fringe. But I am the one who doesn't want them to come true. Unfortunately I'm a big picture guy and a student of history.

You, have drunk the kool aide.

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20205578)
Absolutely agree. No government anywhere has ever taken over anyone. It's certainly not happening anywhere in the world these days, or even in the last 50 years. It just doesn't happen, and it never will again.

This kind of crazy talk should be a jailable offense. Any loony that thinks that the government will take all of their rights away, should have all of their rights taken away!

Government is the only good thing in our lives, and we must always be careful to be obedient to our kindly and benevolent leaders, as they selflessly sacrifice their own well-being in order to bring us all forward into lives of fulfillment and plenty!



:thumbsup:)





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Hahaha Mike:)

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20205627)
Haven't you guys heard about voting? And I don't mean just choosing between republicans and democrats. It's like voting between king and queen (and they are married, you know).

What country are you fucking from bro? It's a two party dictatorship. They both serve themselves and the corporate masters, the same masters.

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20205646)
Typical thread about guns, people chiming in with zero experience about the subject offering conjecture about something they know absolutely nothing about!!

I taught my daughter, starting at about 8 years old, .22 pump rifle, M1 Carbine and a BB gun. Later an AR15 and S&W 40 pistol

She has never killed anyone

At age 26, she is a veteran of the US Navy and has a Bachelors degree...

So please, simpletons! Tell me where I screwed up?

Doesn't seem to me that you screwed up at all. :thumbsup

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 20205664)
Where did I say that I support the government taking guns away or restricting gun owners rights? I was implying that certain gun owners have a delusional Rambo fantasy that when the time comes they will be able to defeat the US military.

You want guns to protect your family? Go for it.
You want guns to hunt or as a hobby? Go for it.
You need guns in case the federal government takes over the country and you need to stamp out the threat? You're mentally ill and living in fantasy land.

Crazyfuckingdude!!!! The 2nd amendment was not added to the constitution in spot number 2 to promote fucking duck hunting or even personal protection. The simple reason that the founders of the U.S. included this provision at spot 2 was to assure that the first amendment was backed up by "We the people, armed to the fucking teeth" IT WAS THAT FUCKING IMPORTANT!!!!

Germany was very bohemian and had cafe's all over town where the meek sophisticates gather to read poetry and endevour in scholastic thought.

Then came Hitler and the NAZIs and the were the darlings of Germany the saviors of the Germanic peoples and then. TOTAL FUCKING WAR!!!!!! :error:error:error:error:error:error:error:error

Atticus 08-27-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20207547)
I guess George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founders were crazy for thinking we needed guns to protect us from the government. Those crazy bastards, who the fuck did they think they were?

If I am considered the crazy one it's because I have removed the blinders that the majority still gladly wear. I think my country is on a path that leads to a subjugated citizenry. Of which I and my loved ones are a part of. If you don't see the militarization of the police in the U.S. you are fucking blind.

Yes, I put ideas out there that are on the fringe. But I am the one who doesn't want them to come true. Unfortunately I'm a big picture guy and a student of history.

You, have drunk the kool aide.

You failed history and you're an Alex Jones kook.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13...s-the-gun-nuts

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20205915)
Not really. The school program doesn't take that into account and the kid does "re-learn" the stuff again. So, the kid can use that time to be kid, instead of learning to read, and to learn to read when everybody else does. Also, I am not that competition spirit kind of guy, that I would start to develop some special skill related advantages for very young child. This is more mommy and daddy related issue, than child related. I have already pet, I am not going to turn my hopefully future to be childs to be one.


OMFG, and you call me a kook?

My kid was learning as much as he wanted and we provided every assistance since the day he could sit up and watch a baby Einstein video. It was easy for him and it was fun and he has developed far in advance of the other kids his age. Never pushed him, but gave him all the learning tools and learning toys and good schools. He also has been training Brazilian jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai since age 5, learned to shoot bb guns and bow and arrow by 9, he is 13 and is proficient with a 22LR. I'd like to think that he is prepared for most problems he may encounter.

I hope he never needs to use his martial skills to defend himself, I hope he never needs to use his skills with weapons either. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't have tought him these things.

The world is full of assholes and stupid people in large groups!!!!!

RyuLion 08-27-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20205362)
I grew up with guns in the house. I was taught the safe handling of firearms at an early age and those lessons stayed with me. I was also taught the safe handling of power tools, cars, swimming in water, etc.... All of these lessons were for my safety.

I"m not sure why people from other countries, that have TONS of problems of their own, are so fixated and fascinated by what happens in the USA. Since you don't like the rights that we have here in the US, I would suggest that you thank goodness you don't have to live here, and then just carry on with your day, happy and relieved!


:)


.

:2 cents::2 cents:

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vendzilla (Post 20205939)
fuck you are an idiot!

My daughter has always read above the grade level, has always excelled above the other children in the class because she was given a love for books at an early age. She had plenty of time to be a kid, she had a pony, well she actually had two. She rode in parades. She had a better childhood than most and you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. She grew a garden, she went camping, she shot guns with her daddy, she rode in hot rods, she learned to weld with an arc welder at age 12. I guess your parents let the tv raise you, shows in your ignorant comments

do the world a favor and don't have any off spring

nice!!!!!

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20205967)
Don't you understand? If you have guns in your house, you have to say something about those even before you teach the kids to shoot, etc. And usually the guns purpose is explained together with "Don't touch them". And I still suggest using airguns to teach kids to shoot (and involve gun safety with the shooting).

Squad is a military unit. Here, learn some.

"In military terminology, a squad is a small military unit led by a non-commissioned officer (NCO)[1] that is subordinate to an infantry platoon."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad

You can read my industry role from the left.

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Ever heard of a gun safe?

Also.... no better way to teach gun safety than to let the kid see what a gun will do. Way before they ever get to hold it. Exposure to the firearm safety and firearms prior to the kid holding the gun. :thumbsup

Knowing whether or not you kid is an idiot helps too.

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20205996)
1. It readies your child for kindergarten.

Fact: Forty-three percent of children in America are not school ready when they enter kindergarten. Yet, children who get early literacy exposure with positive speech interactions have a 32-million-word advantage by age four over children who did not get this exposure. Teaching reading to preschoolers and being ready for kindergarten can be accomplished easily and informally with a little literacy activity each day in short durations.

2. It alleviates worries about reading disability later on.
Fact: Neuroscientists tell us that the preschool brain is malleable and more likely to reorganize dysfunctional or dyslexic reading circuitry if we intervene early. Early intervention starts at home. You should be your child's first reading teacher for this reason alone.

3. It makes learning to read easier for your child.
Fact: Picking up reading in babyhood and toddlerhood is easy; learning to read at age 6 from formal instruction in school is hard work. Babies and toddlers can learn to read as easily and informally during a critical period of brain development from birth to age 4 as they can easily pick up fluency in two complicated languages, say, Mandarin and English, during this same time.

4. It feeds a hungry brain.
Fact: A baby's brain will triple in size during the first year of life. Reading aloud and talking to your child feeds the child's brain 10 million words of raw data each year in the first three years of life, and enables their neural pathways to develop in different ways. A multisensory flash-word technique, or labeling objects and reading-around-the-room, can start as early as 3 or 4 months of age, during the brain's height of plasticity and synaptic formation. Such activities flex your child's mental muscles by feeding word traces into his brain, impacting both brain growth and cognitive development.

5. It engenders multisensory creative development and love for reading.
Fact: At the same time you are stimulating her speaking and reinforcing specific neural pathways that link sound and meaning, reading aloud and talking to your child feeds the baby's natural curiosity and helps develop right-brain creativity. By giving your baby opportunities to engage in listening, viewing, exploring with her mouth (cloth and board books), touching, and movement activities related to books and reading, it becomes a creative activity that engages both the creative and verbal sides of the brain. It also instills positive attitudes about books and jumpstarts the beginnings of a love for life-long reading.


6. It helps your child pick up phonics.
Fact: Tacit knowledge of phonics rules are hallmarks of toddler readers. They can't deliberately articulate the rules of phonics, but 2- and 3-year-olds can intuit phonics and exhibit the ability to decode and read words they have never seen in print. They cannot learn to do this through the kind of formal instruction used in school. They likely use special right-brain learning capacities and pick up phonics and word-pattern recognition just like they pick up multiple languages during this period. They lose these special brain capacities by age 6.

7. It helps your child pick up grammar.
Fact: Research shows that children stimulated with informal literacy activities can learn the basic rules of grammar for speech production by age 2. Tacit knowledge of grammar rules when learning to speak works similarly to a baby's and toddler's tacit use of phonics rules when learning to read. They can't articulate the rules of grammar, but babies and toddlers certainly use the rules of grammar in speech production.

8. It makes your child smarter.
Fact: If you read aloud to your child, and later allow your 3-, 4- , or 5-year-old child to choose books with interesting content and read them independently, he or she will grow in intelligence. Reading and being read to enables 2- and 3-year-olds to use complicated sentences, manage memory of distant events, build general knowledge, access new information, and develop powers of reflection. Reading stimulates language and vocabulary development, which is highly correlated with measures of intelligence. A 5-year-old reader acquires new knowledge from reading while a 5-year-old nonreader can only admire the pictures.

9. It helps build better schools.
Fact: Four out of 10 American 8-year-olds cannot read proficiently. For the first time in history, the current generation will be less well educated than their parents. The achievement gap in American schools starts before children enter kindergarten. Teach your child to read before he or she goes to school, encourage your neighbors to do the same, and you'll help fix a fledgling system that is currently in jeopardy.

10. It creates a beautiful legacy with a little time and effort.
Fact: The requirements of baby/toddler reading are simple: reading aloud routinely, friendly and fun verbal interaction, personal contact, and about 5 minutes/day of word play. Do this in the first three or four years of your child's life and you will raise a reader. It will have a powerful impact on your child's future behavior. You will feel good about giving your child the gift of reading, you'll be remembered fondly for this gift, and it will likely be passed on to your children's children when your own children continue the tradition or when you continue the practice as a grandparent


The proof of these things is for me in my own child and his friends. Amazing Kids and all started reading early. The human brain is like a sponge in the early years to 5 why waste this time?

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron (Post 20206020)
I am in favor of nuclear-weapon dispensing vending machines to which children of any age have access.

READ "The coming race" By Bulwer "Lord" Lyton.

Once of age all adults get what amounts to an A-BOMB. So everybody can destroy the entire race at any time.
Makes for very nice an friendly encounters and no arguments whatsoever!!!!:1orglaugh

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 20206061)
Are you seriously proposing we teach sex education to children 9 and under?

NO That ain't what he was saying!!!! He's using the logic to show you guys how stupid you are.

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20206068)
Can you put this "obvious advantage" into words? As we are talking about reading and writing.

The obvious advantage is that we don't want our children to be like you!!!!:321GFY

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 20206108)
Read another story that said she lost control while shooting a full auto uzi.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GQ23820140826

I remember a story of a kid shooting himself in the head with a full auto uzi a while back.

I have never shot a full auto myself.

Full auto Uzi and kids, not a wonderful idea unless you are in Israel etc....... (Or in Africa and be needin' some hellraizin' little bastards to overthrow the current dictator. So you can replace him.)

Gotta know your kids if you start goin' full auto. I am an advocate for second amendment and gun rights and I would wait on the full auto. (That doesn't mean that I would force others to wait, they can decide for themselves!!!!!! SEE HOW THAT WORKS?)

DAMNMAN 08-27-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20207254)
Here are some facts,

AKA123 doesn't know shit about the subject and feels it's ok to be an asshole but demand decorum when answering him, he's a troll

Crockett full of shit, or Crockett science.

People have been teaching their children to shoot firearms since they were invented, if your child is not ready at the age of 8, you have already failed as a parent.

You don't put an automatic weapon in the hands of a 9 year old.

If you are teaching anyone to use an automatic weapon, you put 3 rounds max in the magazine and see how they do, then 3 again. Slowly putting in more. The range teacher was an idiot and paid the price. I watched the video on the news, he was an idiot for putting more than 3 rounds in the firearm, you don't do that at any age!

Perfectly said!!! I have seen many full auto runaways in my day. Only 3 rounds even for strong adults because nobody expects what they get when they squeeze that trigger.


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