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BOOBSARMY 08-30-2014 04:02 AM
I dont think there will be a ww3 OVER ' Ukraine ' . i mean what exactly is Ukraine ? before all this crisis people hardly new there was a country called Ukraine.

they think if they join the European union there life will change or they will get more respect.

But the truth is they will become work slaves for UK and Germany , just like poland, czech republic and all the other Eastern European countries.

Ukriaine will do WORST if they join the EU

and btw wasn't Ukraine part of russia not that long ago ? russia has every right to take back what is his.

just a punk 08-30-2014 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20210118)
There are two military super powers in this world, Poland is not one of them, Poland do not need a bufferzone, Poland is the type of country that is used as a bufferzone by the super powers.
Indeed :2 cents:

just a punk 08-30-2014 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20210106)
They have on steam both metro games on sale for 40 euros tho seems like a overkill.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Metro_Map.gif

:pimp

RummyBoy 08-30-2014 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20209795)
It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.
If most people just guided by their media propaganda, it will be no change. Of course, your point is 100% well said but only the intellectual minority share this view. Many in the CIA and US government are convinced that Washington wants to provoke Russia:

Kolargol 08-30-2014 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20209743)
Hard to say what Putin wants, but some more lebensraum, that's for sure. Even with current conquest he will be reminded as a man who made Russia bigger.. land wise I mean and military wise too..
This is all internal politics - Putin needs an external enemy so he can blame all his failures on the West.

aka123 08-30-2014 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20209869)
They are always going to be a buffer country, they'll either get fucked by the West or fucked less by the East. Unless they can relocate themselves next to Iceland that's not going to change.
What if they don't want to be buffer countries? Why don't you go and be a buffer?

We are talking about sovereign countries. They can choose their own fucking partners.

editeur 08-30-2014 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20209943)
Putin is a fucking idiot. Who else would invade a country and hope no one notices? It's classic Russian behavior to assume that everyone is dumb enough to not see through your silly games, especially when it's troops and artillery. Military genius.
Haha, you still don't get it. Everyone knows that our troops are in Ukraine and everybody knows that everybody know, including mr Putin. So, why the denial? The answer is very simply. It's because noone wants to do any serious things to help Ukraine and lose huge profits and other benefits (cheap and indispensable gas for example) of doing business with Russia. No fucking one and especially the core big states of EU as they benefit the most from it. Putin knows this very well too, and he denies everything just to make it easier for EU and US doind nothing but talk. He helps them with this benefit of doubt. He allows them to save their face, because one way or another they won't do anything serious and already regret about what they already done.

RummyBoy 08-30-2014 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20209943)
Putin is a fucking idiot. Who else would invade a country and hope no one notices?
And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html

aka123 08-30-2014 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20210183)
And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html
What are you talking about? First of all SWIFT is mostly European thing and under control (headquarter in Belgium). "Eagle" has nothing to do with it. Secondly, the bear could stop attacking another country. Usually attacks are considered as a "provocation", or actually it's far beyond provocation, it's the real thing.

Antonio 08-30-2014 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20210183)
And its a smart move to demonize, marginalize and provoke Russia to the brink of war? And at this time in the US economy, USA more than ever NEEDS Russia to hold on to dollars and keep up the petrodollar. Russia isn't going to be another Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Afghan etc........

If the eagle wants to provoke the bear, it's bad news for everyone.
Cut Russia out of SWIFT and that is a big blow economically for all (including Russia).
Cut Russia out of VISA/MasterCard and its probably the last straw.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/29/wo...sis/index.html
Nope, crazy lunatic dictators are like kids, you need to set boundaries for them.

CAHEK 08-30-2014 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20209987)
If it was up to me.... I would land ten thousand US Marines right smack in the middle of Ukraine... Then let's see what Putin is going to do. It's not like we haven't fought a dozen proxy wars in the past fifty years.
Those ten thousand US Marines will be peace of meat in there. You need air support, war ships,tanks,artillery and etc.....

:2 cents:

RummyBoy 08-30-2014 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20210194)
Nope, crazy lunatic dictators are like kids, you need to set boundaries for them.
That's exactly what Putin is doing....... he's setting boundaries for Washington
After all who's done the most invading over the last 20 years? Russia or USA? :2 cents:

Antonio 08-30-2014 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20210219)
That's exactly what Putin is doing....... he's setting boundaries for Washington
By grabbing land from Ukraine? Yeah, that hurt the US pretty bad, I can see them crying a river from all the way over here.

RummyBoy 08-30-2014 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20210223)
By grabbing land from Ukraine?
No by entering US airspace, testing capabilities, dropping US businesses, rejecting US/Euro products, currencies wars, trade wars, hacking wars. Its not actually clear how complete any land grab by Russia is yet and im not pro Russia but I would take a wait and see on that one. For sure, no-one should expect Russia not to fight back in some way against sanctions like this.

qwe 08-30-2014 07:54 AM
http://socioecohistory.files.wordpre...g?w=1000&h=360

MaDalton 08-30-2014 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20209909)
You are just repeating western propaganda. Putin is one of the greatest leaders of our time. He has done great things for Russia's economy and enjoys approval ratings that US presidents can't reach.

The same was true for Hitler prior to WW2, but even more so. Pre-WW2 Hitler is arguably the greatest head of state this world has ever seen. Germany was in the dumps and the Nazi party turned it around very quickly and they became #1 in the world. It was one of the most stunning economic turnarounds ever. The events around WW2 have just made it extremely taboo to shed Hitler in any positive light, so nobody does.

The thing to watch out for is when a leader does great things, gains the overwhelming backing of his people and thus feels emboldened to take risks. He will be president of Russia until 2018. I do suspect that he will make a bold move of some kind before then.
once again you prove to be the resident GFY nazi - or extremely ignorant. or both.

i'd say go educate yourself but i am afraid this is a lost case

just a punk 08-30-2014 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20209987)
If it was up to me.... I would land ten thousand US Marines right smack in the middle of Ukraine...
Are you mad? How long they will least there? Days? Hours? They will be turned into meat just immediately. Man, Ukraine is not Mexico. There will be no supply, no protection for these doomed marines nor even a way to escape. You should stop watching cheap Hollywood blockbusters :2 cents:

P.S. Once again: what's your rank? A private? I'm asking this because I doubt you have an officer education. A cannon fodder who's not allowed to think - yes, but not an officer for sure. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

just a punk 08-30-2014 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20210223)
By grabbing land from Ukraine? Yeah, that hurt the US pretty bad, I can see them crying a river from all the way over here.
Who cares of the Ukraine? No, for real. Who cares of it?

BoobAssLover 08-30-2014 08:14 AM
Really, it's coming, big time. Take my word and make your way to toilet.

bronco67 08-30-2014 08:14 AM
History will show that Putin's moves will set Russia back decades. They were actually on their way to being a real working country until he ran it into the ground with backwards thinking. If you don't want to play nice with the other kids in the sandbox, you'll get shut down economically -- unless you want to just try for an all out military world invasion. We've seen how that worked out for Japan and Germany.

Putin's actions now are a sign of weakness, not strength.

just a punk 08-30-2014 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20210244)
History will show that Putin's moves will set Russia back decades.
Are you kidding? The same was told in 2008 when Russia has kicked the Georgian ass. Nothing happened in fact. I do not support what Putin does in the Ukraine, but I strongly believe there will be not long term consequences because nobody gives a shit about that country. It's like Libya or Iraq. Were the States set back decades? Course not. Ukraine is a small Africa in the center of Europe, so nothing will happen.

aka123 08-30-2014 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by qwe (Post 20210232)
Seems to be NATO bases to me.

just a punk 08-30-2014 09:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210281)
Seems to be NATO bases to me.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K1Mj9Y444h...reen-sign.jpeg

WDF 08-30-2014 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20209917)
From the PPP
I see the PPP handle is taking hold here, hey colonel slanders are you paying attention?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20210076)

Today we flex our nuclear muscles, tomorrow we fly to the Sun and back, yuppie!
Maybe North Korea and Russia can fight over who owns the sun.

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20210137)
This is all internal politics - Putin needs an external enemy so he can blame all his failures on the West.
It is called little man syndrome, he is over compensating for his short comings.

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20210230)
............... im not pro Russia
You can't be serious???!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210236)
Who cares of the Ukraine? No, for real. Who cares of it?
Vlad and Russia obviously or they would not be trying so hard to take it's territory Colonel Slanders.

aka123 08-30-2014 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210236)
Who cares of the Ukraine? No, for real. Who cares of it?
Seems that you don't. So why you so much pretend that Russia has nothing going on in Ukraine? Just don't care. You could apply it to writing about it altogether, just don't care.

I care for Ukraine, not because of Ukraine per se, but because I don't like countries invading and annexing other countries. Especially Russia, and that has just to do with the fact that Russia is a bit closer to me, than for example Somalia or something. But I don't like that even if it happens in Africa.

just a punk 08-30-2014 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210294)
So why you so much pretend that Russia has nothing going on in Ukraine?
Me? When and where? I did always say that Ukrainian rebels have some kind of support from Russia. This is not a secret. On the other hand, I did say that if Putin will decide to start a real war against the Ukraine (in a way MrDiez and other fags are dreaming for) or even a small calming military operation as in case of Georgia, you will notice it :2 cents:

aka123 08-30-2014 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210299)
Me? When and where? I did always say that Ukrainian rebels have some kind of support from Russia. This is not a secret. On the other hand, I did say that if Putin will decide to start a real war against the Ukraine (in a way MrDiez and other fags are dreaming for) or even a small calming military operation as in case of Georgia, you will notice it :2 cents:
You have downplayed Russia's role, as you seem to keep that either it's full war or nothing at all. The definition of "real war" is now quite blurred. Russia seems to have thousands soldiers and hundreds of tanks and other vehicles making war against Ukraine. Seems to be pretty real to me. Of course Putin could keep it's line, put everything it has on the line and say "They are not our forces."

"What nukes? Not ours. There reads Russia? No my child, it reads Prussia, you read wrong."

just a punk 08-30-2014 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210307)
Russia seems to have thousands soldiers and hundreds of tanks and other vehicles making war against Ukraine. Seems to be pretty real to me.
Seems? Seems what? Seems to who? Bring me the real facts and let's discuss. As we say: "если кажется, крестится надо".

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210307)
You have downplayed Russia's role, as you seem to keep that either it's full war or nothing at all.
I can not downplay or overplay it. Neither me nor you because we both don't know anything for sure. Please don't pretend to be a director of SVR or GRU.

aka123 08-30-2014 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210309)
Seems? Seems what? Seems to who? Bring me the real facts and let's discuss. As we say: "если кажется, крестится надо".

I can not downplay or overplay it. Neither me not you because we both don't know the real fact. Please don't pretend to be a director of SVR or GRU.
What is "real fact" to you? Multiple and quite reliable sources have identified Russian forces attacking against Ukraine troops. You can't know anything from certain, other than your own existence. And as you brag about being an officer, let me, just a NCO, to let tell you that war is full of uncertainty. You have to make conclusions with little and often uncertain information and act based on it. So, now that we have shitload information, good information and quite reliable information, it's not that hard to make conclusions.

just a punk 08-30-2014 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210316)
What is "real fact" to you?
Something what is real. Real, not "seems to me". Please stop asking me these dumb questions.

aka123 08-30-2014 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210319)
Something what is real. Real, not "seems to me". Please stop asking me these dumb questions.
So what's real to you? You get information, how do you define it being a real or not?

Also, I don't need to be even close 100 % certain about making conclusions and decisions regarding war and other similar situations. This is not science.

just a punk 08-30-2014 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20210323)
So what's real to you?
http://www.reallifephilippines.com/w...d-Facepalm.jpg

No offense please, but I will not answer to your posts anymore.

aka123 08-30-2014 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20210327)

No offense please, but I will not answer to your posts anymore.
Good, no offence, I wish it would be the same in Ukraine.

WDF 08-30-2014 09:51 AM
sooner or later Colonel Slanders will only answer the other PPP members and no one else! Yay!

GregE 08-30-2014 10:13 AM
Ideally the border between Russia and Ukraine would reflect the genuine wishes of the clear majority on both sides as ascertained by a free and honest plebiscite.

Unfortunately, that's about as likely an occurrence as a Jewish Pope.

Bladewire 08-30-2014 10:27 AM
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Mutt 08-30-2014 10:46 AM
I don't get the 'Col Sanders' nickname for CyberSEO :arcadefre

crockett 08-30-2014 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20209795)
It's coming, but it's only because The West keep prodding Putin, leave him be, but there are powerful people who have a lot to gain by shuffling the pack with another World War.
Yes I mean, it's totally the Finns fault that Russia has also violated Finland's airspace 3 times since the 23rd of this month.. Obviously it's the West's fault for putting Finland and Ukraine's boarders so close to Russia.

WDF 08-30-2014 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20210369)
I don't get the 'Col Sanders' nickname for CyberSEO :arcadefre

You forgot the "L".

No one got the PPP at first either, but it is catching on.

Kolargol 08-30-2014 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20210219)
That's exactly what Putin is doing....... he's setting boundaries for Washington
After all who's done the most invading over the last 20 years? Russia or USA? :2 cents:
why 20 years not 100 years?


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