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just a punk 09-22-2014 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20231972)
The HDI is what its used to measure development.

That's just a bullshit. You can use the World Bank data if you want, but it still doesn't show anything. Your average salaries are much lower and that's a fact. Your medicine, education etc suck comparing to the Russian ones and [url=that's a fact too. Bulgaria has no technologies (if you think it has, please tell us about them and we'll laugh together :)). All developed countries including the USA still use the Russian rocket technologies, not yours (personally I never heard about Bulgarian rockets ;)). Russia is #2 World seller of high tech weapons etc. Russians are used to buy realty on Bulgarian Black Sea resorts because it's (the realty) many time cheaper comparing to the domestic one. For example, one of my friends has a big house in Burgas only because he can't afford it on Russian sea resorts (places like Sochi are too expensive for his pocket) or even in Spain which is also cheaper.

So I really don't see any reason to speak about that. Some abstract numbers from Wikipedia? Sorry but it won't fly. Look at the facts only.

Antonio 09-22-2014 02:01 AM

[QUOTE=CyberSEO;20231982]That's just a bullshit. You can use the World Bank data if you want, but it still doesn't show anything. Your average salaries are much lower and that's a fact. Your medicine, education etc suck comparing to the Russian ones and [url=that's a fact too. Bulgaria has no technologies (if you think it has, please tell us about them and we'll laugh together :)). All developed countries including the USA still use the Russian rocket technologies, not yours (personally I never heard about Bulgarian rockets ;)). Russia is #2 World seller of high tech weapons etc. Russians are used to buy realty on Bulgarian Black Sea resorts because it's (the realty) many time cheaper comparing to the domestic one. For example, one of my friends has a big house in Burgas only because he can't afford it on Russian sea resorts (places like Sochi are too expensive for his pocket) or even in Spain which is also cheaper.

So I really don't see any reason to speak about that. Some abstract numbers from Wikipedia? Sorry but it won't fly. Look at the facts only.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, wishing doesn't change the reality. I wish we were the richest in the EU, but we are the poorest. You wish Russia was super developed, it is one of the least developed in Europe.

Also, you need to learn at least some basics such as why gross domestic product at
purchasing power parity per capita is used when comparing living standards rather than the nominal GDP per capita. It is really basic, take the time to understand it. Here is a good start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

As you can see, Russia has higher GDP (PPP) per capita than Bulgaria and Romania (and not by that much) and lower than everyone else in the EU.

And, we've been over this before; if you don't want to learn the truth, then no problem.

just a punk 09-22-2014 02:22 AM

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Antonio 09-22-2014 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20231982)
Your medicine, education etc suck comparing to the Russian ones ....

More facts:


from WHO 2013
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian...ealth-systems/

Education (older data, couldn't find newer stats):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

Murder per capita:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

Life expectancy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy

and so on and so forth.

But, yeah, you have rockets and hi tech weapons, true that.

pimpmaster9000 09-22-2014 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20231672)
I guess those thousands of anti war protesters in Russia today were also brainwashed.. By the West..

I actually agree with the protesters who want peace for their country be they paid or not...

The brain wash I was refering to is your comment that Russia is something to laugh at and the USA is not...this is why I see Americans as north koreans :1orglaugh

face it:

you are nothing special :2 cents:


your cars are average...
your education is below 3rd world standards (I have been to american private schools)
your healthcare is below 3rd world standards (my 3rd world shit hole ranks higher than your "1st world freedom country"
your "Freedom" is laughable...the USA is a fucking ghetto zone...no country in europe is such a fuck up

your army...well nobody wasted money like you guys and I guess you can bully small 3rd world countries with the trillions you should have spent on education and helathcare so the USA would not be such a ghetto zone today...but coutnries like russia and china are sacred to the US Army because you want to keep your pussies intact...



the USA is nobody to have an opinion about anything LOL...you are a joke...a joke with a big army but still a huge joke...you fail to see the comedy when any american calls anybody else brainwashed...

all the best to you but the world should build a wall around you guys...to keep the "USA" out of our healtchare and education and freedom :thumbsup

just a punk 09-22-2014 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232031)

This table looks very outdated (even if they say it for 2013). Really.

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232031)
Education (older data, couldn't find newer stats):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index

According to that Wikipedia article, even back in 2007 Russia had a better education. On the other hand, that's table is a bullshit too. Just look at it closer. Cuba is #5. LOL :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232031)

I don't think it somehow could be related to the country development level. And yes, Northern Caucasus region is a part of Russia too and it makes a very serious contribution into the overage murder rate (it's like a Mexico). However the absolute number murders in Moscow for 2013 is lower than in NYC (are the States developed enough for you?), for example. Even despite the fact that Moscow is a much bigger than NYC.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/marka...Mortality1.png

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232031)

Also very outdated data. The official life expectancy in Russia is 73.5 (far away from 63.1 that's written in that Wikipedia table):

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/marka...Expectancy.png

And don't forget about the average salaries. Even according to Wikipedia, they are almost 2-times higher in Russia comparing to Bulgaria. In fact they are higher even much because of so-called "черный нал" - the average employe here receives his salary as two parts: "white" (the official one) and "black" (the undeclared one which comes in an envelope).

and so on and so forth :winkwink:

evy97 09-22-2014 07:39 AM

I love these propaganda headlines

"US fighter jets intercepted Russian planes flying in international airspace"

"Russian/Chinese fighter jets made dangerous intercept of US plane in Russian/Chinese airspace"

crockett 09-22-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20232064)
I actually agree with the protesters who want peace for their country be they paid or not...

The brain wash I was refering to is your comment that Russia is something to laugh at and the USA is not...this is why I see Americans as north koreans :1orglaugh

face it:

you are nothing special :2 cents:


your cars are average...
your education is below 3rd world standards (I have been to american private schools)
your healthcare is below 3rd world standards (my 3rd world shit hole ranks higher than your "1st world freedom country"
your "Freedom" is laughable...the USA is a fucking ghetto zone...no country in europe is such a fuck up

your army...well nobody wasted money like you guys and I guess you can bully small 3rd world countries with the trillions you should have spent on education and helathcare so the USA would not be such a ghetto zone today...but coutnries like russia and china are sacred to the US Army because you want to keep your pussies intact...



the USA is nobody to have an opinion about anything LOL...you are a joke...a joke with a big army but still a huge joke...you fail to see the comedy when any american calls anybody else brainwashed...

all the best to you but the world should build a wall around you guys...to keep the "USA" out of our healtchare and education and freedom :thumbsup

See that's where you show how little bit of reading and comprehension you have learned in your wonderful Russian schools. I never said anything good or bad about the US. I simply showed the difference in the direction Russia is taking by acting like Iran, NK, Cuba and then showed how much better using a different direction worked out for China.

Your talk of me saying how great the US is, was something you dreamed up in your little hate filled brain. I never once compared the US or Russia, you and your hate filled brain dreamed that up.

Antonio 09-23-2014 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20232065)

And don't forget about the average salaries. Even according to Wikipedia, they are almost 2-times higher in Russia comparing to Bulgaria. In fact they are higher even much because of so-called
and so on and so forth :winkwink:

You DO NOT compare net salaries b/n two countries, you need to take into account the cost of living, this is why you use GDP per capita PPP.

Yes, Russia has higher GDP per capita PPP than Romania and Bulgaria and lower than anybody else in the EU from what I remember; also Russia is failing in all other indices like health, education, etc. which is why the HDI (adjusted for inequality) is the index that has been used for the past few years, it gives you the entire picture.

Also - human development is used to measure quality of life and has nothing to do with technological development, achievements, breakthroughs, etc. For instance, India has some sort of space program and a massive biotechnology sector, but low HDI.

just a punk 09-23-2014 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232812)
Yes, Russia has higher GDP per capita PPP than Romania and Bulgaria and lower than anybody else in the EU from what I remember

Only because of "черный нал" ("black salaries") ;)

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20232812)
also Russia is failing in all other indices like health, education, etc.

Of course not. Here is my post about medicine: https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=20232135&postcount=44

As about the education. You know how many high-tech products are being developed/produced in Russia, right? I mean unique space technologies, high-tech weapons, nuclear technologies etc. Millions of people are involved into high-tech development and production here. Do you think it's possible in a country with a low education level? LOL ))) How many genius programmers, mathematics physics etc live in Russia and outside of it (I'm talking about those great US scientists who got their education here)? All that is a result of a hight quality education only and nothing else. Man, stop reading Wikipedia and think about facts only.

Phoenix 09-23-2014 03:14 AM

So another way to read this headline would be. Us fighter jets flew into international airspace to see how close they could get to Russian fighter jets in international airspace.

PR_Glen 09-23-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20232855)
So another way to read this headline would be. Us fighter jets flew into international airspace to see how close they could get to Russian fighter jets in international airspace.

more like a limp dick version of cold war tactics. this is a non issue and you guys turning this into a pissing match is truly embarrassing..


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