so what - first of all Stalin is usually blamed for this, second: this is not a competition and third: it doesn't make anything Hitler did any better.

but thanks for the civilized manner of your contribution

/sarcasm

Oh and here come the obvious responses to my post in 3...2...1 because you cunts have BEEN PROGRAMMED to respond this way. You will say "oh you are a Nazi".

My response: Nope, sorry. I would never want to live under a dictatorship or under someone like Hitler.

Your programmed pea brain response: "Well then you are at least a white supremacist"

My response: Nope, again sorry but I don't consider myself better than anyone else. It is tempting to think that way and sometimes fall into racist thinking but in reality I was always the guy even at a young age who stood up for gays, lesbians, blacks etc. I don't think we should all be mixed into one big soup for us to end up fighting each other but that does not mean I hate them. It means I respect everyone and think we should have our right for self determination and to live as we want to live as free people.

this world is boring

So you want to split hairs over the difference between killing thousands, or killing millions?

It's these kinds of threads where you see the people you're glad you don't know personally. Especially when they try to sound like good people, but it just doesn't work and the foot goes deeper into the esophagus.

I grew up in am area that had a lot of Jewish people. Some of my friends parents and grandparents were survivors of the Nazi concentration camps.

I heard their stories first hand and have no reason to believe that normal working folk had any stake in propagandizing their experiences.

I have not read the whole thread but I read enough lies to almost get me sick.

You, who would rewrite history to have Germany and Hitler treating the Jews ethically are so full of shit.

Remember those who choose to ignore history are destined to repeat it. Don't take evil and try to rewrite it as moral.

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Sometimes I forget what an idiot you are; thanks for the wake up call

Bull fucking shit

Facts have no place here.

LOL at trying to have a conversation with somebody like wehateporn or Matt26z. There's literally nearly all of the collective research and literature of Mankind available online at their finger tips and yet they still believe the stupid shit they do. Do you honestly think you're going to be able to sway them with a few facts on a message board? Seriously guys think about it for a second.

Meanwhile, in the real World ...

Archaeologists uncover actual gas chambers in Poland.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sobibor-poland

Watch some of it last night. Pure garbage.
Good show coming up on History Chanel Sep 26th about Jewish collaborators in Germany. Also, this video had interesting footage of Jewish ghetto police beating the shit out of their own.

This quote sums it all up:

"Finally, we have reached our goal ? the discovery of the gas chambers."

They went into the project with a predefined purpose. Anything less than gas chambers - or something they could say were gas chambers - would be a failure.

This is why history repeats itself.

Since we now have this glorify Hitler thread, maybe we should also thank him for the huge progress in technology he and WWII caused..

This thread is sickening, I'd ban Matt26oz on behalf of the 6 million Jews, almost 2 million NON-Jewish Poles which most people aren't aware of, 500,000-1,000,000 Serbs killed by the Nazi Croats, 200,000-800,000 Roma(Gypsies), 200,000-300,000 physically or mentally disabled, 2,000,000 Soviet prisoners of war, homosexuals, Soviet citizens, Jehovah Witnesses and others - the total is 11-12 million defenseless people :(

Get this through your sick fucking head, there is NO MORAL EQUIVALENT in modern history to what the Nazis did.

I'm for free speech but speech isn't absolute in any country nor even on this forum. You can discuss the causes of WWII, Hitler's rise to power, the military battles but when you deny the facts of the Nazi's atrocities that the entire sane world accepts, the world's greatest historians included, it is nothing less than hate/racist speech against every Russian, Jew, Pole, gay, disabled person who posts here and there are many.

Ban him. Seriously.

And we dropped the atom bomb on the Japanese because the defense department estimated 1 Million American soldiers would have died to defeat them on their home turf. And no, the Japanese weren't going to surrender, they didn't even surrender after the first bomb was dropped.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

in Germany he'd be in prison by now - it would do this place good

edit: considering that people recently get banned just because of harmless race jokes, I seriously hope that he's just still here because no mod noticed yet

And in Canada and many other countries as well.

"Holocaust denial is explicitly or implicitly illegal in 17 countries: Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Switzerland, and Romania"

Define holocaust denial.

I have never said that a great number of people didn't die while detained at the internment camps. I simply do not subscribe to the "final solution" concept and instead believe that typhus outbreaks and other disease was the primary cause of death.

Go fuck yourself; okay?

someone must have hit you on the head one time too much when you were a kid :2 cents:

Matt, you're up against some hard-headed people here. I'd call it a night.

Why do you think it is illegal?

Should everyone who says that al-Qaeda didn't do 9/11 be put in prison? Should that event and 10+ years of war be held so sacred that you can't question any of it?

http://i62.tinypic.com/2cp9t9k.jpg

As tragic as 9/11 was there were a few thousand killed - Hitler killed 12 million non-combatants. WWII has been investigated and studied for over 70 years and there have been eye witness reports from TENS OF THOUSANDS of victims and confessions from thousands of members of the Third Reich itself. Why do you think Hitler killed himself and the rest of the top Nazis escaped or tried to? This was a war unlike any other war, the documentation/evidence proves the guilt and the truth beyond ANY REASONABLE DOUBT to any reasonable and intelligent human being, you and your ilk don't qualify on either count.

There is only one reason 70 years later to be arguing over Nazi atrocities - and that is pure HATE. You're not worthy of even being on a forum for porn webmasters. Go play on Stormfront.

Did he kill himself? You may want to read this....

"Tests on skull fragment cast doubt on Adolf Hitler suicide story"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...skull-fragment



Where exactly can I view this evidence at? Specifically, something that proves gas chambers killed millions of people.

German military testimony proves nothing. Those guys were testifying to save their lives. They would have said anything, as illustrated in part earlier in this thread.

hey, e-hitler.com is availiable..

the fuck this thread?

true say. particularly the "we should have our right for self determination and to live as we want to live as free people" except for, ya know, those who were Jewish, or Roma, or gay or a combination thereof. What's a little systemic murder in furtherance of the obsessive aryan ideology of a madman?

the 'arguments' in this thread seem to be:

1) the US was into scientific racism/eugenics (not revelatory)

2) other leaders/regimes have committed atrocities (see above)

3) the above somehow negate the monstrosity of the Holocaust.

and let me guess, 10 000 Rwandans being murdered every day for three months in '94 was an unfortunate series of machete cleaning-related accidents, right?

unfuckingbelievable

:2 cents:

Looks interesting... :) But six hours??? :) OMG...

Freaking Nazis killed my grand mother's entire family right there in front of her. She was the only one who lived.

His 'Mein Kampf' would be a good starting point.

Wow such hatred, bigotry, bias, intolerance, and ignorance wrapped up into one post. I would hope by 2014 we would have moved past this type of belief system but obviously not.

I would have been 100% for sending troops into Rwanda to stop the hundreds of thousands of men women and children being murdered. However we just sat back and did not much of anything. The reason we did not do anything and the reason there was not much outrage was because the people at the top who put ideas into the hamster wheels people like you call brains had nothing to gain by helping these people. They tend to only have their puppet Presidents send in troops if there are natural resources or if there is a strategic reason to have a presence in the area (such as Iraq).

So you do not believe various groups of people should have the human right of self determination and freedom? Wow that is pure hatred. Personally I believe we should carve out some fairly large areas of the Unites States and give those areas to Native Americans. They really got screwed and never recovered. The least we could do is hand over some land. But I guess with hatemongers like yourself who think subjugating people is a good thing we will never get to that point. '

One of the other posters' hamster wheel of a brain did spit out one gem "history repeats itself". I fully agree and that is why we need to be aware of ALL mass murderers and totalitarian regimes not just Hitler. Half of my ancestors are from Russia so I have relatives who were caught up in communism and the other half are from Norway. But I guess hatemongers like yourself do not like it when someone like me calls attention to those mass murderers because those murderers are hip and cool. The communists get a pass while Hitler gets 99% of the attention. Trendy types name their restaurants "Mao's Kitchen" and they put up statues of Lenin and wear T shirts with Che on them. Oh and don't forget those stylish Castro hats.

The truth is most people and most of you cowardly fucks posting in this thread would have been raising your arms and shouting Sieg Heil had you been living in Germany in the 1930's. And Had you been living in East Germany after the war you would have been turning in your family members and neighbors for being subversives. Had you lived in the USSR you would have been informing on people and then cowering behind your doors as you heard the NKVD arresting people in the middle of the night and then sent to execution or shipped off to a gulag to die a horrible death. History IS repeating itself and you cowards are going to help the psychopaths just like most of the sheep did in Germany and Russia. Truer words have never been posted on GFY. Now go back to your regular programming.:321GFY

the problem with this logic is it in no way whatsoever based on facts. the facts are 98% of the "native" americans were wiped out by plague before the US was even the United States. they killed each other in significant numbers and they also burned down every forest on the entire continent prior to that, not to mention they weren't even native.

Americans don't owe indians jack fucking shit, especially 250 fucking years later and based on false history.

Well I grew up with Sioux indians and there are a lot of them left and they have been fucked over very hard.

they get all the opportunities the rest of us get. Ive got quite a bit of family living in navajo nation new mexico. I've seen first hand the victim/entitlement mentality of indians based on distorted history. fuck that.

the point is, these atrocities DO keep continuing, in part because we choose not to learn from the horrors of the past. There are huge parallels between the Holocaust and the Rwandan massacre, in that both were fomented by leaders who promoted a racist ideology and scapegoated the targeted group as the source of all social and economic problems. Once you construct and dehumanize the 'other', genocide becomes much easier for so called 'good folks' to participate in. History is filled with these lessons and we choose to ignore them.

we're making progress here, so you do concede that the Holocaust in fact took place?

I strongly believe in the right of all people to life, freedom and self determination, the very things that were denied to Jews, Roma and gay people during the systemic campaign of slaughter that we call the Holocaust. I think I made that fairly clear in my prior post. The fact that other leaders and regimes have committed atrocities does not negate or cancel out what occurred during World War Two.

As to what I would have done during the war, I'll never know, obviously, but I would like to think that I would have resisted rather than collaborated. We always choose how we behave, no one is a mindless sheep unless they choose to be. Fact is, many groups and individuals resisted the Nazis.

Canada's record wasn't quite so illustrious though, when discussing the number of Jews Canada would shelter the reply was famously 'none is too many'. The nation of my birth turned away refugees seeking shelter from the horrors of the Nazis, of the 907 refugees turned away on one ship alone, 254 later died in concentration camps. Canada has continued that pattern in later years with an 'immigration crackdown' on Roma refugees seeking asylum. So yes, as a Canadian I am implicated.

I don't understand the logic of why atrocities committed before and after the Holocaust somehow negate the Holocaust. Back to your regularly scheduled programming indeed, I feel like I stumbled into Stormfront in this thread.

You're supposed to take the paint chips out of the bong before you light it, it helps avoid the brain damage. Feel free to read that 5 times, it will take a while to sink in I'm sure.

Mostly it's angry losers who are still upset about finding out about santa clause.

I tried to watch it and force myself to like it but I couldn't last 15 minutes.

It was too boring and poor production value that tried to come off as objective but only made it look more like propaganda material.

Hopefully no one gets brainwashed watching it

"detained" ?
oh boy.

u should be reincarnated as Jew in Poland in 1942.

and please tell us later how the "detainment" went :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You are such a turd.

Hitler should be remembered if nothing else as doing something with his life.

Most people wonder around aimlessly with no direction.

He certainly was a goal driven go getter who knew what he wanted.

Most people who have been born and died on this earth did nothing at all and have been forgotten long ago.

Gates - Hitler - Jobs

People who all wanted to change the world and did something to make that happen.

Canada was not alone in shunning jews. Poland was the only developed nation letting jews pour over the border. No nation's leaders wanted mass jewish immigration to their country because they had seen what the jewish elite zionists had done to Russia and then Germany. Nobody wanted to be next.

Hitler's real "final solution" was essencially the creation of Israel. He proposed that the Jews be set up with their own land where jews around the world could call their own (but ultimately they wanted the jews out, new land or not). The Nazi party did not like that jews living in Germany were not bound to Germany. Jews around the world were viewed as having no national pride regardless of where they lived, no national loyalty.

Here is Hitler talking about it:


Zionists and the German government had been in negotiations over what a Jewish community migration out of Germany would look like, but that stalled when Germany wanted to impose an exit tax on their wealth as they left the nation. So it didn't get done and then WW2 happened and jews had long been considered potential enemeies of the state, so they were interned just as Japanese-Americans were interned in the US.

Some people in this thread are talking about not letting history repeat itself, but you focus purely on the Nazi party. Did you ever stop and ask why Germany hated zionists in the first place? If you would look into this stuff you would see that the zionists are doing to the US today what they did to Germany back then. The main parallel being the catastrophic banking failures that have negatively affected everyone except the zionist banking industry. More people would be upset with that if 6 corporations didn't control 90%+ of media consumed in the US. The outrage is then limited to fringe news organizations and "wacko conspiracy theory sites."

Churchill killed more Indians then Hitler killed jews. Both psychopath. One man is hero, another is villain. Very interesting propaganda..

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Watch the Benjamin Freedman video, if you haven't already.

I saw what you wrote :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Native Americans should be thanking the white man for bringing them out of the stone age. They were savage beasts, tamed by the white man and now living a better life than ever.

I am not big fan of jews

Thread's done been trolled, try another one.

history is written by winners.
i do not believe in ANYTHING what was written in last century.
same as i do not believe in ANY media crap they are feeding us now.

if hitler and axis would won, we would be taught that alliance was very bad guys.

i do not know if hitler was bad, i do not know anything about this person, all what was written we can shove up our asses.

ill watch this document, if it will be some nazi propaganda then fuck it, if it will be some interesting docs, then why not..

Looks controversial indeed, pretty much like anything Hitler related :\

Hitler used to pick his own butthole with his finger and then lick it after.