Nazis were working everyone from coca cola to IMB :2 cents:

so your contention is if they Nazis only killed 4 mil or 2 mil it's not that big of a deal? maybe only 110k... oh well.... ship happens... right?

Again (since you obviously missed it the first time) - I'm NOT denying the Holocaust took place. There's no doubt in my mind large numbers were gased and cremated by the Nazis.

I have questions with the accuracy of the facts.

Likewise, I've spoken with survivors (and their descendents) of the camps over the years...several of which also had questions about the historical accuracy of the details themselves.

I have read Mein Kampf. I must have at least a dozen books about Hitler and another two dozen about Nazis and WWII.

He had some very radical ideas about government and how to take power. But even after he had complete control of the German government, he did good things before he moved forward with his "German living space" concept and attacking other countries.

you always say you have read this books but this makes it even more disturbing that you claim he did "good things" while completely blocking out the underlying cause for it

Hitler only had 2 main goals: payback for WWI and eradication of all jews

everything he did from day one as German chancellor after January 30, 1933 was only focused on this, that people found jobs and the economy grew (due to his spending towards the military industry and infrastructure) was a side effect.

And some people here make me seriously sick, especially those keyboard heroes that sit somewhere and gain their "knowledge" from Youtube.

Fuck you.

Let me fix this thread:

War Criminals Execution Footage, Germany, '44 - '46



ps - if this is video is offensive to somebody, please report to be removed

notthing more to add

My well-informed, opinionated, irate reply to this post:







http://i.imgur.com/PJLJgPJ.gif

Get ready for some reality you fucking sheep. Here you go.....

I have no problem with people hating Hitler. But why is it the biggest mass murderer in the history of the world gets ZERO press from the media and is not mentioned in history books that shape the worldview of children and college students???? Hmmmmmmm
He even has a mustache just like Hitler. But of course he killed the right kind of people so there is no outrage and your pea brained robots do not shit in your panties if I was to call him a hero or a good guy. You fuckheads have not been programmed to become outraged.

Genrikh Yagoda
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda
Yagoda is widely known to be a brutal and ruthless killer in what is called the Holodomor famine in the Ukraine. Through his authority as a Soviet official, Yagoda was responsible for the deaths of an estimated 7 to 10 million Ukrainians, primarily subsistence farmers, who opposed the Soviet collectivization policies, including at least one hundred thousand Jews. As the chief of NKVD, Yagoda ordered his agents to methodically confiscate all food supplies stored by the Ukrainian peasants in the process causing the year long famine.[7] [8] [9]

so what - first of all Stalin is usually blamed for this, second: this is not a competition and third: it doesn't make anything Hitler did any better.

but thanks for the civilized manner of your contribution

/sarcasm

Oh and here come the obvious responses to my post in 3...2...1 because you cunts have BEEN PROGRAMMED to respond this way. You will say "oh you are a Nazi".

My response: Nope, sorry. I would never want to live under a dictatorship or under someone like Hitler.

Your programmed pea brain response: "Well then you are at least a white supremacist"

My response: Nope, again sorry but I don't consider myself better than anyone else. It is tempting to think that way and sometimes fall into racist thinking but in reality I was always the guy even at a young age who stood up for gays, lesbians, blacks etc. I don't think we should all be mixed into one big soup for us to end up fighting each other but that does not mean I hate them. It means I respect everyone and think we should have our right for self determination and to live as we want to live as free people.

this world is boring

So you want to split hairs over the difference between killing thousands, or killing millions?

It's these kinds of threads where you see the people you're glad you don't know personally. Especially when they try to sound like good people, but it just doesn't work and the foot goes deeper into the esophagus.

I grew up in am area that had a lot of Jewish people. Some of my friends parents and grandparents were survivors of the Nazi concentration camps.

I heard their stories first hand and have no reason to believe that normal working folk had any stake in propagandizing their experiences.

I have not read the whole thread but I read enough lies to almost get me sick.

You, who would rewrite history to have Germany and Hitler treating the Jews ethically are so full of shit.

Remember those who choose to ignore history are destined to repeat it. Don't take evil and try to rewrite it as moral.

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Sometimes I forget what an idiot you are; thanks for the wake up call

Bull fucking shit

Facts have no place here.

LOL at trying to have a conversation with somebody like wehateporn or Matt26z. There's literally nearly all of the collective research and literature of Mankind available online at their finger tips and yet they still believe the stupid shit they do. Do you honestly think you're going to be able to sway them with a few facts on a message board? Seriously guys think about it for a second.

Meanwhile, in the real World ...

Archaeologists uncover actual gas chambers in Poland.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sobibor-poland

Watch some of it last night. Pure garbage.
Good show coming up on History Chanel Sep 26th about Jewish collaborators in Germany. Also, this video had interesting footage of Jewish ghetto police beating the shit out of their own.

This quote sums it all up:

"Finally, we have reached our goal ? the discovery of the gas chambers."

They went into the project with a predefined purpose. Anything less than gas chambers - or something they could say were gas chambers - would be a failure.

This is why history repeats itself.

Since we now have this glorify Hitler thread, maybe we should also thank him for the huge progress in technology he and WWII caused..

This thread is sickening, I'd ban Matt26oz on behalf of the 6 million Jews, almost 2 million NON-Jewish Poles which most people aren't aware of, 500,000-1,000,000 Serbs killed by the Nazi Croats, 200,000-800,000 Roma(Gypsies), 200,000-300,000 physically or mentally disabled, 2,000,000 Soviet prisoners of war, homosexuals, Soviet citizens, Jehovah Witnesses and others - the total is 11-12 million defenseless people :(

Get this through your sick fucking head, there is NO MORAL EQUIVALENT in modern history to what the Nazis did.

I'm for free speech but speech isn't absolute in any country nor even on this forum. You can discuss the causes of WWII, Hitler's rise to power, the military battles but when you deny the facts of the Nazi's atrocities that the entire sane world accepts, the world's greatest historians included, it is nothing less than hate/racist speech against every Russian, Jew, Pole, gay, disabled person who posts here and there are many.

Ban him. Seriously.

And we dropped the atom bomb on the Japanese because the defense department estimated 1 Million American soldiers would have died to defeat them on their home turf. And no, the Japanese weren't going to surrender, they didn't even surrender after the first bomb was dropped.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

in Germany he'd be in prison by now - it would do this place good

edit: considering that people recently get banned just because of harmless race jokes, I seriously hope that he's just still here because no mod noticed yet

And in Canada and many other countries as well.

"Holocaust denial is explicitly or implicitly illegal in 17 countries: Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Switzerland, and Romania"

Define holocaust denial.

I have never said that a great number of people didn't die while detained at the internment camps. I simply do not subscribe to the "final solution" concept and instead believe that typhus outbreaks and other disease was the primary cause of death.

Go fuck yourself; okay?

someone must have hit you on the head one time too much when you were a kid :2 cents:

Matt, you're up against some hard-headed people here. I'd call it a night.

Why do you think it is illegal?

Should everyone who says that al-Qaeda didn't do 9/11 be put in prison? Should that event and 10+ years of war be held so sacred that you can't question any of it?

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As tragic as 9/11 was there were a few thousand killed - Hitler killed 12 million non-combatants. WWII has been investigated and studied for over 70 years and there have been eye witness reports from TENS OF THOUSANDS of victims and confessions from thousands of members of the Third Reich itself. Why do you think Hitler killed himself and the rest of the top Nazis escaped or tried to? This was a war unlike any other war, the documentation/evidence proves the guilt and the truth beyond ANY REASONABLE DOUBT to any reasonable and intelligent human being, you and your ilk don't qualify on either count.

There is only one reason 70 years later to be arguing over Nazi atrocities - and that is pure HATE. You're not worthy of even being on a forum for porn webmasters. Go play on Stormfront.

Did he kill himself? You may want to read this....

"Tests on skull fragment cast doubt on Adolf Hitler suicide story"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...skull-fragment



Where exactly can I view this evidence at? Specifically, something that proves gas chambers killed millions of people.

German military testimony proves nothing. Those guys were testifying to save their lives. They would have said anything, as illustrated in part earlier in this thread.

hey, e-hitler.com is availiable..

the fuck this thread?

true say. particularly the "we should have our right for self determination and to live as we want to live as free people" except for, ya know, those who were Jewish, or Roma, or gay or a combination thereof. What's a little systemic murder in furtherance of the obsessive aryan ideology of a madman?

the 'arguments' in this thread seem to be:

1) the US was into scientific racism/eugenics (not revelatory)

2) other leaders/regimes have committed atrocities (see above)

3) the above somehow negate the monstrosity of the Holocaust.

and let me guess, 10 000 Rwandans being murdered every day for three months in '94 was an unfortunate series of machete cleaning-related accidents, right?

unfuckingbelievable

:2 cents:

Looks interesting... :) But six hours??? :) OMG...

Freaking Nazis killed my grand mother's entire family right there in front of her. She was the only one who lived.

His 'Mein Kampf' would be a good starting point.

Wow such hatred, bigotry, bias, intolerance, and ignorance wrapped up into one post. I would hope by 2014 we would have moved past this type of belief system but obviously not.

I would have been 100% for sending troops into Rwanda to stop the hundreds of thousands of men women and children being murdered. However we just sat back and did not much of anything. The reason we did not do anything and the reason there was not much outrage was because the people at the top who put ideas into the hamster wheels people like you call brains had nothing to gain by helping these people. They tend to only have their puppet Presidents send in troops if there are natural resources or if there is a strategic reason to have a presence in the area (such as Iraq).

So you do not believe various groups of people should have the human right of self determination and freedom? Wow that is pure hatred. Personally I believe we should carve out some fairly large areas of the Unites States and give those areas to Native Americans. They really got screwed and never recovered. The least we could do is hand over some land. But I guess with hatemongers like yourself who think subjugating people is a good thing we will never get to that point. '

One of the other posters' hamster wheel of a brain did spit out one gem "history repeats itself". I fully agree and that is why we need to be aware of ALL mass murderers and totalitarian regimes not just Hitler. Half of my ancestors are from Russia so I have relatives who were caught up in communism and the other half are from Norway. But I guess hatemongers like yourself do not like it when someone like me calls attention to those mass murderers because those murderers are hip and cool. The communists get a pass while Hitler gets 99% of the attention. Trendy types name their restaurants "Mao's Kitchen" and they put up statues of Lenin and wear T shirts with Che on them. Oh and don't forget those stylish Castro hats.

The truth is most people and most of you cowardly fucks posting in this thread would have been raising your arms and shouting Sieg Heil had you been living in Germany in the 1930's. And Had you been living in East Germany after the war you would have been turning in your family members and neighbors for being subversives. Had you lived in the USSR you would have been informing on people and then cowering behind your doors as you heard the NKVD arresting people in the middle of the night and then sent to execution or shipped off to a gulag to die a horrible death. History IS repeating itself and you cowards are going to help the psychopaths just like most of the sheep did in Germany and Russia. Truer words have never been posted on GFY. Now go back to your regular programming.:321GFY

the problem with this logic is it in no way whatsoever based on facts. the facts are 98% of the "native" americans were wiped out by plague before the US was even the United States. they killed each other in significant numbers and they also burned down every forest on the entire continent prior to that, not to mention they weren't even native.

Americans don't owe indians jack fucking shit, especially 250 fucking years later and based on false history.