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Ok, it has been six hours now and I don't see anything new. So much for your 100% sure. I don't think you are very good at the internet, ya know? . |
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Hmm. Back on the 16th (September) I got an email from an antwuan at eventosgv dot com that indicated he was programming the feeds. Is that by any chance you? Or was it another "misstatement" from someone at the caliporno/eventsgo crew? Quote:
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The xml feeds were to export the data from calipornos while the webcams com integration would be pulling data in. Why wouldn't they want to do both? One should not have canceled the other imho. Sounds like whoever is calling the shots (Xavi I assume) has absolutely no clue about anything. Oh well, another wannabe cam site bites the dust. PJ, I saw your aff program is invite only. If you do the feeds thing then I want an invite please. Thanks in advance ;p . |
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I always figured that if I were to try to do a cam startup like he was doing (and mtc too, or any cam startup for that matter) that I would offset the lack of models with feeds and/or embeds from various sponsors so that as I built traffic and brand for myself, and attracted more models I would also have some cash coming in from cross-promotion. (hopefully that blurb makes sense). So, the webcam com api, if it works as it is being described, would be perfect for that because you could integrate the api fully while still running your own models. Solves the problem of "No models on line right now" that all new cam startups face. . |
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I just don't understand why people give up so easily on stuff. I don't think caliporno had been out there a full month yet and already giving up. Not the way to succeed (imho). You have to work a plan, you can't just go this way and that way and all over the place. You plot out your journey and then you travel it. Yeah, occasionally you have to make an adjustment here or there but ya know, if you want to get to California from New York by car you have to keep going west. You can't start going west and then go back east for a while and then north and then east again and then wonder why you didn't get to the West coast. oh well, like they say, another one bites the dust. . |
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So, throwing in the towel on that site would make sense. |
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For me webcams anything seems like a dead end. Just doesn't convert for me. I have a 5 year old white label with them, 100's of thousands of uniques and not a single free signup. I've discussed with their aff reps and nobody can figure it out, maybe I just suck. Whatever, I don't care anymore. So basically I need my own models. Since my site is too slow to keep the girls busy I put them on a few sites at once. like 2 or 3, sites like MFC and Chaturbate work best cause they don't do as many private shows there so no need to sign off from the other sites to entertain a crowd. That way I can keep my girls busy enough to keep them around for my few customers and they aren't falling asleep or anything. I provide a location with internet, security, transportation and food and pay them a weekly base salary (low but it guarantees they are not wasting their time) and then I pay them a percentage of what they earn on the sites they work, again a little low but between that and the salary they usually end up with more than they would get on their own. They also get a very generous rev share on my site which keeps them interested in focusing their attention there, even with the long breaks between customers. That whole operation runs at a small loss but it keeps my site staffed 24/7 which is a pretty hard thing for a cam startup to pull off and gives me a huge advantage in retaining customers. |
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But picture if you will: Right now your site shows 5 girls live at the top and then the rest of the models below that. Now, what if you grabbed a feed (if not webcams com, then pretty much any that offer a feed. Chaturbate's is pretty easy to work with.) and you populated a bunch more online cams boxes with the feed info. You can make it look exactly like the models from your own site, only difference is that when they click the chaturbate ones they will go to a page on your site where you have the chaturbate page embedded and when they click your models they go to your cam. You pick up a buck a sign up for any free sign ups at chaturbate and whatever percentage they pay for revshare (I think 20%). That can be enough to pay the light bill and buy a couple of beers. As you increase the number of live models you have on line you start decreasing the number you are showing from feeds until you are showing just your cams on your site. The object of integrating the feeds is not necessarilly to make more money. It is instead to make it NOT look like you only have 5 girls on line while others are showing hundreds. But, i am not a site owner, do not run sponsor programs or anything like that. I am just a programmer who does a couple of his own sites so I am probably talking out my ass. ;p |
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http://demo.modenacam.com/ :spawn http://www.caliporno.com/ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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My site isn't really "free" though, we offer things like VIP memberships that get special treatment in a variety of ways, and people generally have to pay to get in. When they do they get bonus tokens, which obviously they wouldn't be able to spend on 3rd party sites. I also get quite a bit of questionable traffic which I can deal with cause I have experience and my filters are set up to spare me from the worst of it plus I review transactions daily to prevent problems issue voids and refunds after the fact etc. but any site that wasn't set up for that or expecting it would freak the hell out immediately. And besides it would be a traffic leak competing with my dedicated girls. Yes we're small but we use that to our advantage to provide a boutique experience and can work as a pretty effective team as long as everyone is taking the recommended dosage of their recommended meds. |
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Maybe if google didn't hate me or if I had a real budget I would do it differently. Most likely that would work better, but then I'd be someone else. So I do the best I can with what I got which isn't much but people get paid and shit gets done. |
well it seems Xavi is a real scam !
Tremens earlier > "I am the programmer who this person contacted to create the custom feeds for modenacam script. The project was completed however the payment delayed, and then a supposed sent payment that never happened. After reading this thread I have very clear that I'm not going to get paid by this person."
Same stuff he pulled off with us. The only dollars spent on our girls were surely his also...one model showed me a conversation with him, pushing her to accept a WU...even gave her MTCN (checked online, fake of course) This Xavi is a real loser it seems. Ok for the sake of my lost 7,5K one more time : Xavi, you are a fat-assed scamming jerker ! And remember, trees never meet eachother...people on the other hand... |
just want to get a sig spot in here :thumbsup
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Xavi... Xavi... Where are you Xavi ??
How come you haven't come back ? Tam didn't come and enlighten us as you assured us she would ? Since you left, a programmer has come forward and said that he hasn't been paid. So right now what we have here is a studio that you contracted with that did not get paid and a programmer that has not been paid. You also assured us that you had taken care of your affiliate rep and even assured us that she would come by and verify that and that hasn't happened yet either. Seems your word isn't very good. Maybe it's the second language thing or something. So please come back and fill us in. Thanks in advance. . |
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I just realized that you were breaking 2 rules and I had only called you on one of them. Sorry I missed the other one. I hate when I do that. Well, maybe you haven't actually broken another rule, depends. Are you guys (MTC) top sponsors? meaning do you have a banner spot on the top of the board here? If not you are breaking the sig rules in addition to your constant spamming of your sig. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962 Quote:
No reason to thank me, I just try to be helpful like that :thumbsup . |
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Nah, no bunched up panties here. I am just messing with Timmy there. I didn't report the post. I am tired of him popping in to threads spamming his sig and just decided that was a good time to tell him. . |
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How you doing. Thanks for coming by and visiting my...err I mean your thread again. So, any comment on the recent developments like a programmer who did not get paid and you wanting to pull the site or ereplace it with a webcam.com type wl? What's up with that? Also, you gave us the 100% guarantee that Tam would come by and verify what you are saying about the situation between you and her but she didn't show :( So how about telling us about it. . |
ok so heres the think,
going straight with this , tam has bring his guys from the philippines banging credit cards, thats it, i really wont go into details but yes basically that was his great job, so far i just got a few real "webmasters" including you sarettah, probably my english suck and i sounds like i dont have a single idea of whats going on but yes basically thats what she bring, so basically i told her about the situation actually this happend from the first time with her first "affiliate" so yes i told her to get those chatters and all, but she really didnt get real chatters, it was just a bunch of her carders or whatever they are called, but well as i say i will not going to give more details on a public board about this situation. now this guy from the studio will not going to get pay his not gettingpay and you will see soon him yelling on other sites like he allways do if you type his user on the search area. so i really dont mind that. and to tremens yes im still dont pay you i was not here and so thats why i email you about that, however i didnt get any email so i was assumed that your work was pay over the link you send me, but no problem i will fix that right now so you can update this with a YES I GET PAY ounce you get pay. |
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If you asked for chat traffic to a cam site you were inviting fraud, that simple. Chat traffic is notoriously poor traffic imho. How come none of your failure is your fault? You approached Odessum, he did not approach you: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=20204438#post20204438 Quote:
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Each of them tried to do what you asked it appears. You have problems with what Odessum delivered and claim that he has had problems before. I tried to find some evidence of this and didn't really find anything except the thread where you hired him where he was basically firing a client it appeared to me. Tremens, the programmer, according to both you and him did his job too but did not get paid. You say you weren't there but Tremens earlier said you said you sent a payment but it never happened. Then you say Tam did exactly what you asked her too (bring chatters in) and somehow it is her fault that you got a bunch of fraud coming in. It is amazing that on a project that is yours you take so little credit for anything. This thread has made it pretty damn clear who was fucking up. It was not Odessum, It was not Tremens, it was not Tam. It was and continues to be YOU. You do not have a clue about what you are doing or how to do it. You are a liar and a fool. I think that is probably all I have to say about any of this. edited in: I was wrong, I do have one other question. Quote:
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something smells fishy, and since you dont know about that then you really have to get your ass right over the corner, i deal with chatters every single day from the past few years i know them and i know every single way how they work, means that i caught them right in the act, but as i say i wont go into details on whats going on here until this get solved from the proper people not me, so keep those letters coming. now i really have to sleep i love you you know. Edited!!!! here comes Tam! Enjoy |
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You are missing the point. It does not matter whether chat traffic is good or not. He is upset (at least from what I got from what he posted) that Tam brought him the wrong kind of chat traffic. Now I have no idea what traffic she got him, but he is the one who (by his own account) told her to go find chat traffic. So, he got what he asked for. The guy has shown his ass here pretty well. He has not paid people who work for him. Yesterday he had no problems with Tam and even stated that she was still working for him. He later reversed the working for him but still claimed that she was ok. Now today he is throwing her under the bus. If yesterday she was good and then today she isn't, well, thats just this assfuck covering his ass and making excuses for his failures. What I think happened here (this is pure conjecture) is this guy came in with a little bit of money in his pocket, thought the money on cams was going to be pretty quick and easy and a month into it when the site had not covered expenses yet he freaked and panicked (sp?). he ended up without enough cash to pay people so he decided to find reasons not to pay them and now he is trying to make it all their fault. As I say, that is just conjecture based on what I read here. Just all imho of course. You ain't the first one and won't be the last. It is Hatteras spelt backwards. . |
Sarah, if you tell me what you are wearing I may make more sense! :love-boob
... this was his first post in this thread: "1- this guy Odessum get his performers to work with me, he was supposed to get pay a flate rate for each one of her perfomers, good i agree on that. So this nice and good performers starts from the begining to tell the customers to not spend money on my site and instead of this to go for a dutch site called islive.com, and this where happening from the day #1." "to tell the customers to not spend money on my site and instead of this to go for a dutch site called islive.com" That is chat traffic... just the wrong way. More things happened but that was the first he mentioned. Yes, I have an uncanny ability to decipher text written by authors not of native english language. |
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That is a very serious accusation to make about someone especially someone who yesterday he was good with. The guy is bullshitting and making things up as he goes along. The same way he tried to run his business apparently. I am wearing tight blue jeans and a bright yellow Mizzou Dad T-shirt. Sexy ain't it ;p I have to turn in. I have been posting in breaks from coding all day. My eyes are gone. I will check back on this episode of "How GFY turns" in the morning. . |
Saratah, thx for putting all clear...
Saratah, thx for putting all clear...
I haven't got time, energy and a wish to put it so clear as you do : Xavi is a fuck-up, simple as that ! Someone who has to make & use fake payment-proofs is de facto a scammer ! Do we need to say more ? Here are already 3 people proving he is nitwit. Anyone wanting to get the files he sent me, can ask. As well as the conversation where he pushed a model to accept a WU > which was of course also fake (Anthony Chambers, Columbia, LOL) But again thx for clearly explaining this as you did ! For us it's a lesson learned. |
Good Morning GFY!
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I have been dealing with Filipinos for 5 years and never lost a biller. Nice thing is as carders they are pretty clumsy and leave a huge footprint that is trivial to detect and track. Xavi, you need to quit worrying about your "english not so good" and start working on not being so full of shit. You made a quick money grab, got a few bucks in, paid NO ONE and I have no doubt you will be back with a new nick or get a different one of your butt-buddies to board whore and rinse and repeat. I hope I spot it when you do and get to be the first to call you out. |
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