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L-Pink 09-29-2014 11:31 AM

WTF? 40 posts and 12Clicks isn't here yet telling the two broke ass peasants to stop arguing about nickels.

Odessum 09-29-2014 11:34 AM

his site..
 
is the cheapest version of Modenacam dot com Just changed the name/logo...

So all the shit about programmers etc..blabla...

I contacted the owner of Modena and he was also not to speak about this bulldog...

He ows a lot of people and after those 3 weeks spending on our girls on his own site...also Visa I guess )))

Odessum 09-29-2014 11:35 AM

at L-Pink
 
Exactly L-Pink...

It's enough, you are right !

Peanuts, well for the models 300 euro is not really peanuts !!!

iSpyCams 09-29-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238040)
Wow, you are just trying to make all sorts of friends today? Aren't you?




Holy shit, I just looked and one of those 2 sites is a straight rip of the other. PJ, I assume your site was there first? Why have you not called out their "Rogue Designer" on this shit? They are even using the same graphics on the affiliate signup and the model signup.

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I don't think anybody ripped anyone, or I would have been freaking out previously. My site went live in July 2012 so it was def. first, but there isn't a hugely intuitive templating system. I had a designer customize my site a little, which may be the only reason it isn't straight pixel for pixel identical cause it looks like the other is using an out of the box default. I have a new design supposed to be released "this weekend" for the last 8 weekends or so. Designers, lol. What can you really do?

Odessum 09-29-2014 11:54 AM

we were ripped !
 
We were ripped !

CurrentlySober 09-29-2014 12:31 PM


sarettah 09-29-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238052)
I don't think anybody ripped anyone, or I would have been freaking out previously. My site went live in July 2012 so it was def. first, but there isn't a hugely intuitive templating system. I had a designer customize my site a little, which may be the only reason it isn't straight pixel for pixel identical cause it looks like the other is using an out of the box default. I have a new design supposed to be released "this weekend" for the last 8 weekends or so. Designers, lol. What can you really do?

Ah, ok. So that is a Modena template. I did not realize that.

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DWB 09-29-2014 01:13 PM

I'm here for the Caliphate خلافة.

sarettah 09-29-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20238149)
I'm here for the Caliphate خلافة.

Lol. That made me think of CaliPhat as a domain name. But the com is taken, I am 2 days late ;p

Quote:

Domain Name: CALIPHAT.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 27-sep-2014
Creation Date: 27-sep-2014
Expiration Date: 27-sep-2016

klinton 09-29-2014 01:33 PM

los cabrones sin fronteras, series de tv, directamente de la Colombia:1orglaugh

sarettah 09-29-2014 01:53 PM

Fiddy fucking Cam startups.

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sarettah 09-29-2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

2. Now, you going to answer up about why it does not appear that you are taking care of your employees?

Thanks in advance.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xavi at 12:37 CST
to answer you this, then wait for tam she will give you more details in a couple of hours im 100% sure about that.


Ok, it has been six hours now and I don't see anything new.

So much for your 100% sure.

I don't think you are very good at the internet, ya know?

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Rochard 09-29-2014 04:31 PM

This thread is just insane.

http://rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/crazy.gif

sarettah 09-30-2014 05:03 AM

bump for Xavi.

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tremens 09-30-2014 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238027)
First, I have not yelled at all. I have asked a couple of questions. I was all set to promote your cams from a bunch of page 1 results, all good cam terms. Not a super amount of traffic, just a couple of thousand uniques a day. I was just waiting for your programmer to tell me the xml feeds are ready. So, i do have a definite interest in who I am doing business with.

I am the programmer who this person contacted to create the custom feeds for modenacam script. The project was completed however the payment delayed, and then a supposed sent payment that never happened. After reading this thread I have very clear that I'm not going to get paid by this person.


Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238052)
I don't think anybody ripped anyone, or I would have been freaking out previously. My site went live in July 2012 so it was def. first, but there isn't a hugely intuitive templating system. I had a designer customize my site a little, which may be the only reason it isn't straight pixel for pixel identical cause it looks like the other is using an out of the box default. I have a new design supposed to be released "this weekend" for the last 8 weekends or so. Designers, lol. What can you really do?

The website of the OP was using the default templates that come with modenacam script. It is built using codeigniter framework and has a considerable number of template elements. Btw, since you use the same script, are you interested in adding support for online model feeds? I have the work done for it using hasoffers affiliate system, but can adapt it to whatever system you use.

sarettah 09-30-2014 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 20238661)
I am the programmer who this person contacted to create the custom feeds for modenacam script. The project was completed however the payment delayed, and then a supposed sent payment that never happened. After reading this thread I have very clear that I'm not going to get paid by this person.

Really?

Hmm. Back on the 16th (September) I got an email from an antwuan at eventosgv dot com
that indicated he was programming the feeds. Is that by any chance you? Or was it another "misstatement" from someone at the caliporno/eventsgo crew?

Quote:

Originally Posted by me via email 09/16/2014 - to antwuan
Hey,
Tam and Xavier (sp?) told me to get with you, so I am getting with you.
I think Tam passed on our conversation regarding an xml feed. So, I guess we start there?
Let me know.
Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by antwuan at eventosgv dot com 9/16/2014
Hello there!

Yes, im taking hands on this and I will be add the required to your account.
I will let you know

Have a nice day!

So, if they outsourced it to you and you are awaiting payment then I guess I know why I have not heard back on the feeds.

Curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say.

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tremens 09-30-2014 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238677)
Really?

Hmm. Back on the 16th (September) I got an email from an antwuan at eventosgv dot com
that indicated he was programming the feeds. Is that by any chance you? Or was it another "misstatement" from someone at the caliporno/eventsgo crew?

No, I'm not that person. I was contacted at a later date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238677)
So, if they outsourced it to you and you are awaiting payment then I guess I know why I have not heard back on the feeds.

I delivered the project last Friday and just the same day the OP wanted to abort the project and go for a webcams.com api integration.

iSpyCams 09-30-2014 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 20238661)
I am the programmer who this person contacted to create the custom feeds for modenacam script. The project was completed however the payment delayed, and then a supposed sent payment that never happened. After reading this thread I have very clear that I'm not going to get paid by this person.




The website of the OP was using the default templates that come with modenacam script. It is built using codeigniter framework and has a considerable number of template elements. Btw, since you use the same script, are you interested in adding support for online model feeds? I have the work done for it using hasoffers affiliate system, but can adapt it to whatever system you use.

LOL was gonna reach out as soon as I read that. We are on Nats. There are some issues with the integration and it's a bit clunky at the moment which is why I don't pimp my site on the boards yet, but basically yes I am interested. hit me up at my user here @ yahoo.

tremens 09-30-2014 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238693)
LOL was gonna reach out as soon as I read that. We are on Nats. There are some issues with the integration and it's a bit clunky at the moment which is why I don't pimp my site on the boards yet, but basically yes I am interested. hit me up at my user here @ yahoo.

Email sent.

sarettah 09-30-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 20238687)
I delivered the project last Friday and just the same day the OP wanted to abort the project and go for a webcams.com api integration.

Those are like 2 completely different things, unless I am misunderstanding something.

The xml feeds were to export the data from calipornos while the webcams com integration would be pulling data in.

Why wouldn't they want to do both? One should not have canceled the other imho.

Sounds like whoever is calling the shots (Xavi I assume) has absolutely no clue about anything.

Oh well, another wannabe cam site bites the dust.

PJ, I saw your aff program is invite only. If you do the feeds thing then I want an invite please. Thanks in advance ;p

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iSpyCams 09-30-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238718)
Those are like 2 completely different things, unless I am misunderstanding something.

The xml feeds were to export the data from calipornos while the webcams com integration would be pulling data in.

Why wouldn't they want to do both? One should not have canceled the other imho.

Sounds like whoever is calling the shots (Xavi I assume) has absolutely no clue about anything.

Oh well, another wannabe cam site bites the dust.

PJ, I saw your aff program is invite only. If you do the feeds thing then I want an invite please. Thanks in advance ;p

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Sounds like he's given up on Caliporno and wants to be an affiliate now instead.

tremens 09-30-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238718)
Why wouldn't they want to do both? One should not have canceled the other imho.

Because the second was to replace modenacam completelly.

iSpyCams 09-30-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 20238709)
Email sent.

received, rescued from the spam folder and replied.

sarettah 09-30-2014 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238732)
Sounds like he's given up on Caliporno and wants to be an affiliate now instead.

Hmm, I don't know. I might be giving him more credit then he deserves or maybe someone that knows some about the industry provided some advice but..

I always figured that if I were to try to do a cam startup like he was doing (and mtc too, or any cam startup for that matter) that I would offset the lack of models with feeds and/or embeds from various sponsors so that as I built traffic and brand for myself, and attracted more models I would also have some cash coming in from cross-promotion. (hopefully that blurb makes sense).

So, the webcam com api, if it works as it is being described, would be perfect for that because you could integrate the api fully while still running your own models.

Solves the problem of "No models on line right now" that all new cam startups face.

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sarettah 09-30-2014 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 20238734)
Because the second was to replace modenacam completelly.

Oh, ok. then he was throwing in the towel. Sounds like he was running every which direction at once too.

I just don't understand why people give up so easily on stuff. I don't think caliporno had been out there a full month yet and already giving up. Not the way to succeed (imho).

You have to work a plan, you can't just go this way and that way and all over the place. You plot out your journey and then you travel it. Yeah, occasionally you have to make an adjustment here or there but ya know, if you want to get to California from New York by car you have to keep going west. You can't start going west and then go back east for a while and then north and then east again and then wonder why you didn't get to the West coast.

oh well, like they say, another one bites the dust.

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iSpyCams 09-30-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238740)
Oh, ok. then he was throwing in the towel. Sounds like he was running every which direction at once too.

I just don't understand why people give up so easily on stuff. I don't think caliporno had been out there a full month yet and already giving up. Not the way to succeed (imho).

You have to work a plan, you can't just go this way and that way and all over the place. You plot out your journey and then you travel it. Yeah, occasionally you have to make an adjustment here or there but ya know, if you want to get to California from New York by car you have to keep going west. You can't start going west and then go back east for a while and then north and then east again and then wonder why you didn't get to the West coast.

oh well, like they say, another one bites the dust.

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Well all potential scumbaggery aside, not paying your vendors is generally a cash flow issue. I think the fact OP came here and tried to get in front of the drama shows he hadn't given up completely but now with this it's going to be difficult to impossible to find anyone else to trust him.

So, throwing in the towel on that site would make sense.

iSpyCams 09-30-2014 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238737)
Hmm, I don't know. I might be giving him more credit then he deserves or maybe someone that knows some about the industry provided some advice but..

I always figured that if I were to try to do a cam startup like he was doing (and mtc too, or any cam startup for that matter) that I would offset the lack of models with feeds and/or embeds from various sponsors so that as I built traffic and brand for myself, and attracted more models I would also have some cash coming in from cross-promotion. (hopefully that blurb makes sense).

So, the webcam com api, if it works as it is being described, would be perfect for that because you could integrate the api fully while still running your own models.

Solves the problem of "No models on line right now" that all new cam startups face.

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Well having been down that road here's what I would do:

For me webcams anything seems like a dead end. Just doesn't convert for me. I have a 5 year old white label with them, 100's of thousands of uniques and not a single free signup. I've discussed with their aff reps and nobody can figure it out, maybe I just suck. Whatever, I don't care anymore.

So basically I need my own models. Since my site is too slow to keep the girls busy I put them on a few sites at once. like 2 or 3, sites like MFC and Chaturbate work best cause they don't do as many private shows there so no need to sign off from the other sites to entertain a crowd.

That way I can keep my girls busy enough to keep them around for my few customers and they aren't falling asleep or anything. I provide a location with internet, security, transportation and food and pay them a weekly base salary (low but it guarantees they are not wasting their time) and then I pay them a percentage of what they earn on the sites they work, again a little low but between that and the salary they usually end up with more than they would get on their own. They also get a very generous rev share on my site which keeps them interested in focusing their attention there, even with the long breaks between customers.

That whole operation runs at a small loss but it keeps my site staffed 24/7 which is a pretty hard thing for a cam startup to pull off and gives me a huge advantage in retaining customers.

CaptainHowdy 09-30-2014 08:06 AM

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sarettah 09-30-2014 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238763)
That whole operation runs at a small loss but it keeps my site staffed 24/7 which is a pretty hard thing for a cam startup to pull off and gives me a huge advantage in retaining customers.

It sounds like you are taking a good approach. The salary thing is a good way to go.

But picture if you will:

Right now your site shows 5 girls live at the top and then the rest of the models below that.

Now, what if you grabbed a feed (if not webcams com, then pretty much any that offer a feed. Chaturbate's is pretty easy to work with.) and you populated a bunch more online cams boxes with the feed info.

You can make it look exactly like the models from your own site, only difference is that when they click the chaturbate ones they will go to a page on your site where you have the chaturbate page embedded and when they click your models they go to your cam.

You pick up a buck a sign up for any free sign ups at chaturbate and whatever percentage they pay for revshare (I think 20%). That can be enough to pay the light bill and buy a couple of beers.

As you increase the number of live models you have on line you start decreasing the number you are showing from feeds until you are showing just your cams on your site.

The object of integrating the feeds is not necessarilly to make more money. It is instead to make it NOT look like you only have 5 girls on line while others are showing hundreds.

But, i am not a site owner, do not run sponsor programs or anything like that. I am just a programmer who does a couple of his own sites so I am probably talking out my ass.

;p

CamTraffic 09-30-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odessum (Post 20238049)
is the cheapest version of Modenacam dot com Just changed the name/logo...

So all the shit about programmers etc..blabla...

I contacted the owner of Modena and he was also not to speak about this bulldog...

He ows a lot of people and after those 3 weeks spending on our girls on his own site...also Visa I guess )))

Wow , you weren't kidding...

http://demo.modenacam.com/ :spawn http://www.caliporno.com/ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

iSpyCams 09-30-2014 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238780)
It sounds like you are taking a good approach. The salary thing is a good way to go.

But picture if you will:

Right now your site shows 5 girls live at the top and then the rest of the models below that.

Now, what if you grabbed a feed (if not webcams com, then pretty much any that offer a feed. Chaturbate's is pretty easy to work with.) and you populated a bunch more online cams boxes with the feed info.

You can make it look exactly like the models from your own site, only difference is that when they click the chaturbate ones they will go to a page on your site where you have the chaturbate page embedded and when they click your models they go to your cam.

You pick up a buck a sign up for any free sign ups at chaturbate and whatever percentage they pay for revshare (I think 20%). That can be enough to pay the light bill and buy a couple of beers.

As you increase the number of live models you have on line you start decreasing the number you are showing from feeds until you are showing just your cams on your site.

The object of integrating the feeds is not necessarilly to make more money. It is instead to make it NOT look like you only have 5 girls on line while others are showing hundreds.

But, i am not a site owner, do not run sponsor programs or anything like that. I am just a programmer who does a couple of his own sites so I am probably talking out my ass.

;p

IF we were a cookie cutter cam site that would make all the sense in the world.

My site isn't really "free" though, we offer things like VIP memberships that get special treatment in a variety of ways, and people generally have to pay to get in. When they do they get bonus tokens, which obviously they wouldn't be able to spend on 3rd party sites.

I also get quite a bit of questionable traffic which I can deal with cause I have experience and my filters are set up to spare me from the worst of it plus I review transactions daily to prevent problems issue voids and refunds after the fact etc. but any site that wasn't set up for that or expecting it would freak the hell out immediately.

And besides it would be a traffic leak competing with my dedicated girls. Yes we're small but we use that to our advantage to provide a boutique experience and can work as a pretty effective team as long as everyone is taking the recommended dosage of their recommended meds.

sarettah 09-30-2014 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20238795)
IF we were a cookie cutter cam site that would make all the sense in the world.

yadda yadda yadda

Yeah, like I said, I don't run any programs or membership sites so the realities are different from the picture in my warped little mind ;p

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iSpyCams 09-30-2014 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 20238831)
Yeah, like I said, I don't run any programs or membership sites so the realities are different from the picture in my warped little mind ;p

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Well I don't know about warped, people doing it your way are making good money. I just have this vision that loosely fits together with my business plan and am trying to make it happen, it's not based on any other site specifically mostly just planned around my odd set of skills and flaws but for now it pays the bills which for small camsites seems to be quite a feat.

Maybe if google didn't hate me or if I had a real budget I would do it differently. Most likely that would work better, but then I'd be someone else. So I do the best I can with what I got which isn't much but people get paid and shit gets done.

Odessum 09-30-2014 10:58 AM

well it seems Xavi is a real scam !
 
Tremens earlier > "I am the programmer who this person contacted to create the custom feeds for modenacam script. The project was completed however the payment delayed, and then a supposed sent payment that never happened. After reading this thread I have very clear that I'm not going to get paid by this person."

Same stuff he pulled off with us.

The only dollars spent on our girls were surely his also...one model showed me a conversation with him, pushing her to accept a WU...even gave her MTCN (checked online, fake of course)

This Xavi is a real loser it seems.

Ok for the sake of my lost 7,5K one more time :

Xavi, you are a fat-assed scamming jerker !

And remember, trees never meet eachother...people on the other hand...

timmyc38 09-30-2014 11:05 AM

just want to get a sig spot in here :thumbsup

thank you - bye

sarettah 09-30-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmyc38 (Post 20239032)
just want to get a sig spot in here :thumbsup

thank you - bye

Post reported.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962

Quote:

No SIG spamming. Posting with intent of only to drawing attention to you sig with either text or an image will be considered SPAM. This type of spam will generate a warning, second violation will result in a ban. Abuse will not be tolerated. You want to announce something you are selling, put it in the Buy and Sell forum. You are announcing something for your program put it in the Program Announcement section. Program Announcements placed in the Fucking Around and Program Discussion forum are reserved for GFY Advertisers. Want to advertise, you can email me.
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L-Pink 09-30-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmyc38 (Post 20239032)
just want to get a sig spot in here :thumbsup

thank you - bye

If I can't say hahahahahaha you can't say sig spot.

sarettah 09-30-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20239097)
If I can't say hahahahahaha you can't say sig spot.

Exactly :thumbsup

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sarettah 09-30-2014 03:50 PM

Xavi... Xavi... Where are you Xavi ??

How come you haven't come back ?

Tam didn't come and enlighten us as you assured us she would ?

Since you left, a programmer has come forward and said that he hasn't been paid. So right now what we have here is a studio that you contracted with that did not get paid and a programmer that has not been paid. You also assured us that you had taken care of your affiliate rep and even assured us that she would come by and verify that and that hasn't happened yet either.

Seems your word isn't very good. Maybe it's the second language thing or something.

So please come back and fill us in.

Thanks in advance.

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sarettah 09-30-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmyc38 (Post 20239032)
just want to get a sig spot in here :thumbsup

thank you - bye

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I just realized that you were breaking 2 rules and I had only called you on one of them. Sorry I missed the other one. I hate when I do that.

Well, maybe you haven't actually broken another rule, depends. Are you guys (MTC) top sponsors? meaning do you have a banner spot on the top of the board here?

If not you are breaking the sig rules in addition to your constant spamming of your sig.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962

Quote:

Signature rules. Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Yes there is a reason this is so big. Also putting your text in a cell and making it look like a button is against the rules. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more than 3 lines of text. Over the top sigs will be deleted without warning!
You might want to fix that before someone important notices.

No reason to thank me, I just try to be helpful like that :thumbsup

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