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Tom_PM 10-02-2014 08:31 AM

To protect and serve each other.

Robbie 10-02-2014 08:42 AM

Cops are "the bear" and are supposed to be able to "bitch smack" citizens?

You know, when I was a young man in the 1980's I had a few arguments with cops. I lived in Ft. Lauderdale right on the strip. And during Spring Break there in the 1980's there would be 500,000 college kids on a half mile strip.
So the cops were there in force.

Sometimes they would mistake me for a college kid on spring break and give me some shit.

And I would argue back with them. (A couple of times it was yelling at each other).

Afterwards we would shake hands, the cop would realize the mistake and we walked our separate ways.

These days? I can't even IMAGINE being able to state your case to a cop. The minute you try to explain yourself they tell you to "shut up".

And arguing with them? You would end up dead...or at the least, beaten very badly.

This is not the way it's supposed to be. Cops are supposed to work for US. Not be our lords and masters that we have to obey like we are children.

PR_Glen 10-02-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20241355)
Cops are "the bear" and are supposed to be able to "bitch smack" citizens?

You know, when I was a young man in the 1980's I had a few arguments with cops. I lived in Ft. Lauderdale right on the strip. And during Spring Break there in the 1980's there would be 500,000 college kids on a half mile strip.
So the cops were there in force.

Sometimes they would mistake me for a college kid on spring break and give me some shit.

And I would argue back with them. (A couple of times it was yelling at each other).

Afterwards we would shake hands, the cop would realize the mistake and we walked our separate ways.

These days? I can't even IMAGINE being able to state your case to a cop. The minute you try to explain yourself they tell you to "shut up".

And arguing with them? You would end up dead...or at the least, beaten very badly.

This is not the way it's supposed to be. Cops are supposed to work for US. Not be our lords and masters that we have to obey like we are children.

they aren't, its just that now stories like this are sensationalized and people paint them all with the same brush. they are people just like the rest of us, and just like in any group of people some are extremely dangerous... Something they should screen more for, i'm sure we would all agree on that at least.

dyna mo 10-02-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 20241012)
The way some people talk about US cops, they seem to be dangerous, unpredictable animals with a hair trigger temperament, instead of the responsible human beings professionally trained to interact with the public one would expect.

there are a few bad apples in every bunch, they get more attention than the good ones. A million youtubes cops doing thier jobs and going home aren't gonna go viral.

nevertheless, putting cameras on all cops is what needs to happen and we will consequently see a lot less of this type of story.

I couldn't really give a shit other than the fact no one is supposed to be murdered for being an ass, this is Merica fuck yeah, we have the right and obligation to be asses.

Robbie 10-02-2014 10:24 AM

Glenn, I've had 2 traffic tickets over the last six years here in Vegas.

Both times I asked what I was being pulled over for. Both times I was told to "shut up"

Both times were in the evening.

Both times a second cop walked around to the passengers side shining lights in my wife's face and looking all around my car.

Both times you could plainly see that their gun holsters were unstrapped.

It's scary as hell. They create so much tension in their mannerisms these days that it LEADS to problems.

They could walk up with a pleasant attitude and explain what's going on and hear your side of the story. Just like cops used to do.

But instead they walk up acting jacked up and tense. Scaring the hell out of people.
And here in Vegas it's especially scary because they are setting records for shooting and killing unarmed citizens here. :(

bronco67 10-02-2014 10:41 AM

This just proves what I keep saying. A lot of cops are scared little boys trying to do a man's job.

bronco67 10-02-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20241355)
Cops are "the bear" and are supposed to be able to "bitch smack" citizens?




These days? I can't even IMAGINE being able to state your case to a cop. The minute you try to explain yourself they tell you to "shut up".

.

and that's their problem...while they do have authority over us, cops forget they're OUR employees. And their prime directive shouldn't be to unload a clip into any perceived threat. It's a tough job, and part of it putting the lives of the citizens they've been tasked SERVING AND PROTECTING ahead of their own safety.

Robbie 10-02-2014 11:06 AM

I agree bronco67 is IS a tough job for SOME of them.

And a lot of it is made tougher by turning them into revenue collectors by the govt. and insurance companies.

But hell...I was once in a band with a guy whose job was to scuba dive into the nuclear power plant containers in Port St. Lucie, Fla. to maintenance them.
He wore all kinds of protective gear, but he KNEW he was gonna probably die from cancer. That was pretty stressful.
He didn't act like an asshole to everyone or kill anybody or bully anyone.

Guys working construction on high rise buildings. That has GOT to be stressful. One mistake and they are dead. Don't see them shooting people or acting like bullies to the general public every chance they get.

Teachers in public schools. Holy hell...that would have me shooting MYSELF! lol

The difference, in my opinion, is the almost UNLIMITED power cops were given to "fight" the "drug war" (And the fucked up part is...a lot of it was over pot. And it's quickly becoming legal in most places lol).
It seems like every few years the Supreme Court would grant them even MORE powers and abilities to trample the constitution.

I mean...my God, they are now jabbing needles in people's arms and taking their fucking BLOOD during traffic stops!
If that isn't the biggest invasion of privacy that you can do, I don't know what would be.

And like I said earlier: When you give a group of people that kind of power. And then you have a system where the prosecutors, judges, and cops are all on the same "team". AND you make it where it's very difficult to punish cops for illegal shit.

Then you end up with this kind of situation happening.

Is the job stressful? Yes for some of them (not all).
Is it the most stressful job a guy could have? No.
Does a stressful job make it "okay" to act in this manner? Apparently ONLY if you are a cop. Anybody else would be going to jail.

dyna mo 10-02-2014 11:12 AM

Let's not forget television is loaded, LOADED, with cop shows. And from what I've seen of them, they all depict cops abusing their badges. all of them. And the underlying theme that it's OK to do wrong if you're a cop and your motivation is based on thinking you are stopping a wrong. I.e., 2 wrongs make a right.

I would think that contributes significantly to the problem.

I'd also guess many cops come straight from the military/seeing action, that's a problem also.

Robbie 10-02-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20241546)
Let's not forget television is loaded, LOADED, with cop shows. And from what I've seen of them, they all depict cops abusing their badges. all of them. And the underlying theme that it's OK to do wrong if you're a cop and your motivation is based on thinking you are stopping a wrong. I.e., 2 wrongs make a right.

I would think that contributes significantly to the problem.

I'd also guess many cops come straight from the military/seeing action, that's a problem also.

I was talking about that today. Claudia was watching an episode of "Law And Order SVU" on television and I said to her the same thing.

When I was a kid, it was shows like "Perry Mason" that were the big draw. Lawyers DEFENDING people and winning against overreaching prosecutors and cops.
And the cop show that was big back then was "Dragnet" in which Joe Friday played everything by the book and was a straight arrow cop.

These days? The big cop shows are all about the cops being perfect and taking down the "bad guys".

It's a subtle shift. But I think it plays into the same theme that Jimmy Carter described in an interview I read.
He said that when he was Governor of Georgia back in the early 1970's...when he attended the annual Governors meeting of all the governors in the U.S., the "bragging rights" went to the state with the least amount of people in prison.
But when he was invited to be an honorary speaker at the same meeting in the mid-2000's...he found that the "bragging rights" now went to the state with the MOST citizens in prison! :(

sarettah 10-02-2014 12:12 PM

Fiddy dead unarmed black men :Oh crap

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10 Inch Dick 10-02-2014 03:30 PM

his skin color had nothing to do with it. Being career criminal was.

NewOldPlayer 10-02-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20239999)
The prosecutor wanted to charge him with voluntary manslaughter, punishable by up to 30 years in prison but a grand jury decided on a misdemeanor charge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...ml?cps=gravity

What's the problem? He broke the law.

The law clearly states, section 3982749286c of the California Penal Code:

If you don't follow the instructions or verbal orders of a police officer, *you will get killed.

* Unless you are white, then you might get a ticket.


See, this man broke the law, and his death was warranted.

Robbie 10-02-2014 04:46 PM

Looks like local cops are averaging around 400 killings per year in the U.S.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...data/14060357/

If they were a gang, they would be high up on the FBI's list of "Most Wanted"

10 Inch Dick 10-02-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20241872)
Looks like local cops are averaging around 400 killings per year in the U.S.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...data/14060357/

If they were a gang, they would be high up on the FBI's list of "Most Wanted"

What does it tell you? Look at demographics of police force and criminals. Sounds about right.
Ted Nugent has it. Fuck you, liberal candy asses

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_5923204.html

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Nearly two times a week in the United States, a white police officer killed a black person during a seven-year period ending in 2012

Robbie 10-02-2014 09:08 PM

When will people realize that being a board troll was funny for about five minutes over a decade ago? In 2014...it's just stale and boring.

10 Inch Dick 10-02-2014 09:25 PM

Robbie, you wear same wife beater shirts you wore back in 1988 and cuckolding your ?next wife? for living again. Please tell us about stale and boring. At least Simon Sinister gets fresh goods, not some leftovers.

10 Inch Dick 10-02-2014 09:30 PM

Oh, Robbie.
"Sorry bro. You have to go on "Ignore" " message in my profile.

Me so sorry

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PornDiscounts-V 10-03-2014 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20240045)
Nope. The man got shot because the cop was an ass.

Darwin strikes again

Lykos 10-03-2014 05:44 AM

Police is really dangerous in US...


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