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Tam 10-06-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20244968)

Thanks hon - I put my resume in with that one as well - although one of those are alittle suspect to me - so I also put out a bit of a warning. :thumbsup

Socks 10-06-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20241967)
the only things I DO NOT do is design

Looking for a designer that get things done ASAP? <--- sig.

/thread.

VikingMan 10-06-2014 07:05 PM

to be successful you have to be willing to do what others are not willing to do

L-Pink 10-06-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib (Post 20244972)
This is the best post in this thread.

I second that :thumbsup

Tam 10-06-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20245276)
to be successful you have to be willing to do what others are not willing to do

Exactly - and to do this, sometimes you have to be willing to get out of the box to get a bit of attention that you were not otherwise getting! I've never been one to do things the conventional way - who wants to be part of the crowd, I want to get out ahead of it. :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Relentless 10-06-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20242622)
(For anyone looking for work in this biz)

This is how I see things when hiring someone new?..

There are 2 types of employees in this business. I call them "direct" and ?support".

Direct: Someone DIRECTLY involved in profit generation who's worth to a company can very easily be quantified. What do they cost, how much profit do they generate?.simple. They are usually Affiliate reps, media buyers and people who can generate traffic. Aside from affiliate reps, anyone who is good at the other stuff will usually do it for themselves and become an affiliate as they will generally make FAR more (if they are decent) than any company will pay them in salary.

Support: Necessary for a company to operate, but who's value can't be directly quantified in dollars and cents. Programmers, Designers, sys admins, assistants etc

Which one are you??? If it is Support (which sounds like you are not) then getting a job is much more straight fwd. If it is Direct, there is some good news and some bad news.

Affiliate reps: 90% of affiliate reps in this business could be replaced tomorrow. Having a rolodex of affiliates means very little. We ALL know each other and no good affiliate if going to point their traffic to a program that makes less money than where they send it now because they are friends with the rep. It may get you a test, but affiliates go where the highest EPC is, period. And the chance that a decent size affiliate has not tested the new program you are at, if it is in the same vertical, is slim.
The affiliate reps that are worth their salt and deserve, and get, big salaries and commissions, are the ones who are true marketers. Ones who don?t just try to get affiliates to switch over to their program, but are able to look at the traffic, view ALL the pieces of the puzzle and find way for the affiliate to generate more sales from the same amount of traffic. Or to recognize where the affiliate may be leaving money on the table. Maybe there are additional sales to be had above and beyond what he / she already does coming from areas they never thought to look. THAT is what makes a good rep.

Media buyers / traffic generation: Like I said, MOST people able to generate a profit doing these things do it for themselves, but if you can show you have the ability to generate profits (hard numbers, P&L?s from previous jobs etc) There are not to many companies that wont at least give you a shot with a average salary + commission. ANYONE worth their salt wants as much of their money to come from commission as possible. Nobody will pay a media buyer 250k salary, but I know more than a couple that make that and then some from commissions.

The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon ? 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on ?good terms?, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.

Only one thing matters to people hiring an employee??.PROFIT

If you are a ?direct? employee, you need to be able to show your prospective employer that having you around will make them more than they make now. Know a little about their operation. What skills do you have and how can you fit in. If you have a variety of skills, take a look at areas that they may be lacking and explain how you can fill that hole and how that will ultimately mean more money to the bottom line.

Terrific post.

If you are "support", the same rules generally apply, usually all that changes is you need to show employers how you can save them money vs how you can earn them money, with greater efficiency, saved time or other ways to conserve resources. :2 cents:

PornDude 10-07-2014 03:52 AM

If after 7 years in business you still need to ask to get hired you are doing something wrong dear, beach, or how ever you want to be called. Just my 2 :2 cents:

Tam 10-07-2014 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 20245512)
If after 7 years in business you still need to ask to get hired you are doing something wrong dear, beach, or how ever you want to be called. Just my 2 :2 cents:

How do you propose I get a job if I don't ask for one - regardless of how long I've been working or not working? I thought to get a job you have to apply/ask for one - but maybe I am doing something wrong all these years? :Oh crap :1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 10-07-2014 05:44 AM

nevermind..

CamTraffic 10-10-2014 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20242622)
The Problem: I know a LOT of people that have been around for a long time that jump from program to program asking for high base salaries. 6 mon – 1 yr later, the owner realizes that they are costing more to have around than they are generating. They leave on “good terms”, then jump to the next program. Each time the program and salary get a bit smaller till they disappear from this biz.

My thoughts exactly. Hard to trust Reps that've been going from one program to another... many times over.

No offense Tam, but asking for a job on GFY is probably not the smartest thing to do. :Oh crap

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20245555)
How do you propose I get a job if I don't ask for one - regardless of how long I've been working or not working? I thought to get a job you have to apply/ask for one - but maybe I am doing something wrong all these years? :Oh crap :1orglaugh


When you're a good Rep and without a job, you usually get contacted. Shit, you even get contact even if you have a job.
Did you try getting in touch with Eddie from xindustryjobs ? I've met him a couple of times at shows, real nice guy, you should email him.


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