You sound surprised.

Agreed 100%

Perhaps, but the fact that the source has yet to be publicly named, or worse, that the source his/herself has not stepped forward on their own, certainly gives weight to it just being a sensationalist, baseless, fabrication. Realistically, what can one hope to accomplish via publishing serious allegations, and then providing zero foundation or fact, let alone a source.

Hear, hear.

:thumbsup

Mike South went south?

Bad publicity

I know it may come as a shock to yall but I really dont spend much time here...I also dont really care what the vast majority of you think.

What is interesting to me is of all the thing he was accused of the one that is the least damaging is the one everyone is up in arms about.

If he has in any way perjured himself to get a surety bond he is in deep dodo. He does have 3 bankruptcies and I have no idea how anyone with a bankruptcy would get a surety bond. That one IS a big deal.

As for the rest of it I dont doubt that agency politics are involved also probably some performer politics but I have a whole pile of performers including some A list girls that are very unhappy with Mark.

The story stands till otherwise shown to be incorrect....Mark doesnt wish to be on the record and thats his perrogative.

Since the first stuff isn't going to stick, you are now going to just throw dirt in the hopes something sticks. Dude, you need to get a life.

weird, i got him to go on record with one call...

http://thereal*************.com/braz...-prove-claims/

Shy Loves fingerprints are all over this btw...

I suspect there's more to come on this one..

Someone asked why everyone came to marks defense and not Hays??

Hays a POS, Mark isn't...

No axe, and no dog in the fight. Kevin was made mention in other posts about ATMLA on Mike's site. And Kevin pervin' on his talent is just as about commonly known.

In other words, guilty until proven innocent? That's a cool concept :thumbsup

I have gathered my thoughts over the past few days and decided to respond to the deliberate and personal attacks on myself and on my business entity known as ATMLA as recently reported on MikeSouth.com

First, I would like to thank all of you who have reached out to me directly as well on GFY with your support and reiteration of my character as many of you have known me and my wife for many years as peers, business associates, and friends.

Secondly, in concert with a direct message to Mike South via email, I am publicly requesting to Mike South that the 3 most recent posts as reported on MikeSouth.com be REMOVED. In return, I will agree to a one on one interview and Q & A directly with Mike South to answer questions concerning ATMLA, myself personally as an agent and individual and will answer to any claims of improprieties.

In response to the numerous false statements reported, I would like to publicly state the following;

For the past 30 years of my life, I have been an entrepreneur, a passive investor, and a financial risk taker, all of which carry a risk of financial impact that could potentially result in bankruptcies, liens and judgments as was the case with me in the early 1990’s, I lost a tremendous amount of assets in real estate, as well as losing a tremendous amount of money with involvement in gambling as I was involved in the casino industry for close to 20 years dating back to 1980. Hence, being that 20+ years have passed since those financial issues occurred, I had no problem securing a surety bond to cover my agency license.

In direct response to the claims publicly posted……

I have no idea who ESTELLE HENRY is and I am certainly not using his SSN.

I most certainly have a CA driver’s license, which has never been suspended or taken away for 40 years and counting.

I have 5 phones in my name, 1 for myself, 1 for my wife, and 3 for 3 of my 5 children.

Over the past 56 years of my life, I have lived in approximately 10 addresses. However, I have owned several pieces of investment properties that potentially show as residences.

I have 3 vehicles all registered in my name.

The 5 criminal records reported are all traffic related citations that appear in a background check comingled as “Criminal/Traffic Records”

Regarding my status with LATATA, being that this is an ongoing situation, I choose to keep the particulars confidential at this time, however, I will state that there was never any vote that resulted in ATMLA being declared a non-member of LATATA. I anticipate that my status will soon be reinstated.

As far as not abiding by any LATATA guidelines, again keeping particulars confidential, I will state that ATMLA’s billing practices and performer rates are no different than the majority of LATATA members, there may certainly be some differences in how non-shoot related expenses are calculated and accessed, but I will go on record to state that ATMLA is directly in line with the majority of LATATA agencies, and in many cases much less in regards to non-shoot related expenses. I would have no issues with anyone’s challenge to this with an invitation to reciprocate in an open books audit.

In regards to any of ATMLA’s represented talent “not liking” myself, or claims of “strong arming for lower rates”, and harassment in the model house. As with all cases of a population of people all involved with one person, it’s rare to find that 100% of that population “likes” that one person, but I am fairly certain that the vast majority of ATMLA’s talent population do “like” me, but managing a porn agency isn’t about being “liked”, it’s about business, and again, I am fairly certain the vast majority very much enjoy and appreciate my style of business.

Regarding claims of performers having to drop rates by half or more, this is totally absurd, ATMLA’s policy with performers rates are directly in line with the majority of the LATATA agencies.

Last but not least, the claim of offering an exchange of sex for the $300 cost of photos. I am extremely proud to go on record and state that in my 16 years and counting of involvement in the adult industry, I have never crossed the line of infidelity to my wife of 12 years, who is very well known and loved amongst many people in the industry, we have always represented ourselves in the industry as a pair, and for someone to make such false accusations and for Mike South to post is simply unethical and morally wrong.

In closing, I again ask Mike South to remove the 3 posts referred to here, feel free to post news worthy facts such as a pending LATATA membership issue, but I request substantiated facts and not ridiculous falsehood statements. My request for removal are directly related to my desire to not have my wife and my 5 children, grandchildren and family to be victims of collateral damage that is caused with such unethical and morally wrong false accusations.

Great post Mark.

Say hi to Marjie from me and Laura. See you in Vegas!

Nice post:thumbsup


Just Dave

Wonder if Mike will take you up on removing allegations etc. for of a real story/one on one...

Almost called you the other night to check in on you. See you and Marjie in Vegas, tell her I will have a redbull waiting for her.

Sorry to hear about all this baseless Bullshit Mark !:2 cents:

Regardless of Mike's follow up on this or not, pretty sure that well worded and professional response put the personal issues to bed...or should have.

I think that speaks to Mark's character in that he'd even give Mike the satisfaction of a response, let alone an exclusive, after the baseless nonsense he posted. The response could have likely just as easily been a legal one.

Same here.

Agreed. Though had it been handled with integrity by MS to begin with, it would not even be needed.

nice post. shouldn't have had to come to that, hopefully south sees his mistake and rights it

Very true, Mark has always been tops in my books in all the biz I have done with him over the years and on a personal level.

Mark, I think I told you at one of the shows that getting into the agent business was going to be the biggest headache you could have ever gotten yourself into.

I hope everything gets worked out, and you certainly have much better patience than I do.

Being a talent agent has to be the worst gig in the business. I don't envy you for what you are having to put up with.

Good luck and hopefully see you both in Vegas.

Great post, Mark.

Okay, South . . . ball/court

Great post, but I hate to say it, Mike won't do anything. I say that only because when he posted the initial round a month or so back I spoke with him myself about things he got wrong, which he stated he would clarify in a follow-up post, but he didn't. He proved that he had no desire to post the truth only what suited his "source," whom we all know is behind this barrage of complaints.

Or he can just file a defamation lawsuit and own your pathetic ass for blatantly attempting to destroy his business and reputation. He DOESN'T have to respond to your libelous remarks. It's on you to write facts and truth or suffer the consequences of your reckless, irresponsible and flat out illegal and wrong behavior.

Fucking moron.

nice post atmla

Ok mark Im gonna give you the same advice I'd give a family member.

You have good support among your customers particularly here. You have very little to gain from this and an awful lot to lose.

If I were you Id continue to play this out on the boards.

The 4 hour meeting with a piracy board operator is very bad advice...also I have been asked by Brazzers to make it clear that they are uninvolved in this and that Dave is not now and has not been employed by them for about 6 months.

Should you wish to make the offer you know my number as well as my email.

In the interest of fairness I have an awful lot that you couldn't possibly know about, it isn't the enemy you know thats beating you up its the one you don't. That said Nothing and I mean nothing is off limits, any attempts to misdirect or deceive in any way nullify the deal. 9 out of 10 things I ask I will already know the answer to.

Your call

" That said Nothing and I mean nothing is off limits, any attempts to misdirect or deceive in any way nullify the deal. 9 out of 10 things I ask I will already know the answer to."

Or your version of it ??:2 cents:

This is getting intense

Mike South = lacking the ability (or character?) to use good judgment even in hindsight.

AMAZING.

what do you expect from a scumbag like this:2 cents:

http://thereal*************.com/mike...ngo-show-club/


http://thereal*************.com/mike...leaded-guilty/

All posts from a really long wikileaks url... any other sources from normal news sources?

Can I just make MORE MONEY please?

Thank you.

Aqualung my friend, though you start away uneasy.....

SITTING ON A PARK BENCH!!

Sorry, carry on.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Mike South is a show pony. :2 cents:

A what ?

"a person who appears to perform well, but has no real ability"

In other words he's an attention seeking wanker with no real insight and writes poor fiction.

What a dick he is

[img]http://thereal*************.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/case-info-450x540.jpg[/img]

Mike, are you now or have you ever been a communist? I have a list of names from sources that will remain unnamed declaring you in fact do or did have a relationship with the communist party.

He is actually related to senator McCarthy :1orglaugh

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

Mike South...

We are still laughing at you!

Just noticed this thread.

Mike South saying a bunch of unnamed fans said something so he is just reporting it is akin to illegal tube sites claiming all their content was user-uploaded. It's nonsense.

I've worked with mark for years. His greatest fault in business is that he is too nice for his own good. You'd have a hard time finding a worse target for a smear campaign Mike.... and everyone in the industry knows that already. You are lying about a very well known person, which is silly from a credibility standpoint at best. The only thing this story has going for it is that Mark is probably too nice to sue you about it.

Even in a gossip rag this kind of nonsense should strike you as unsuitable for publication.

Let's see...

We have Mark who stands up and issues a professional and public disclosure and is willing to answer any questions regarding his accountability and transparency and is even willing to show his books...

Next to Mike...

Who wants to level accusations from unnamed sources and use threatening innuendo to try and gain an advantage against that type of integrity.

Hmmmm...

think think

think think think

hold on

going to think about it one more time just to make sure...

No, that is not going to be necessary...

At this point I know whom I would be willing to give the benefit of the doubt to.

Benefit of the doubt would only matter if any doubt existed.
There is no doubt at all. This fictional 'story' was a ridiculous miscalculation.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Kick his ass

Wouldn't disagree, but I was trying to take the perspective of someone that came into the thread with no prior knowledge of any aspect of this or any personal firsthand knowledge of either individual.

So you write some BS about someone, they are nice enough not to take legal action against you, they counter point all your points and more... They even offer you a 1 on 1 etc.. All in a professional way.
And you reply with hostel thinly veiled threats...

Nobody can be this classless or clueless, I would have already had legal started on this.

I would sue

Wait for it ...