Mike south is to journalism what dvtimes is to webmastery.

we need a break from this hostile bullshit :2 cents:

i have $1 in an envelope for proof of this....

but seriously, consider the source. ever heard of star mag or the enquirer? i remember an article he posted about a seminar given by manwin aka mind geek in miami. i was in that seminar and none of what he reported was remotely near the truth about it. that's when i knew the fluff pieces were for no other purpose than gossip and entertainment.

LATATA is a racket. they sit all high and mighty with moral superiority yet each and everyone of them have broken california talent agent law. You can not double dip and charge both the client and talent a fee or commission. EVERY porn agent does. Max commission is 10% yet I know some agents take as much as 40%

Libel and slander are both forms of defamation. Defamation is a common law tort, governed by state law, in which an individual makes a "publication" of a defamatory statement of and concerning the plaintiff that damages the reputation of the plaintiff.

Sadly I'm not sure the "proof or ban" applies here. If Mike himself had reposted his article here it definitely would, but since someone else posted it I don't see how it applies.

But Mike, you and I both know you really should have proof on something like this. Of the kind you can show or point others to. Innuendo and hearsay really doesn't cut it when someone's rep is on the line, which is what the proof or ban rule was intended for.

Fun exciting informative thread though. :D

I stole Juicy's pants.

Taking bids.

I'm rather doubtful he would name any "source". However, if I were Mark, I would likely be discussing my options with an attorney considering the allegations being made, as well as taking screenshots and archiving them, just in case.

This pretty much sums it up for me.

I've known Mark for years. I call utter bullshit on the allegations with both the talent disliking him and the inappropriate behaviour between Mark and an unnamed model/source. Without naming the source, it's little more than sensationalist rubbish -- but you kind of come to expect that from MS these days anyway.

he posted the follow up post, which says basically the same thing

You cut and paste with amazing skill

http://defamation.laws.com/defamatio...bel-vs-slander

I don't like to pick on DVTimes, but :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:rainfro

get down and dirty

I had and have plenty of support from people actually IN this industry.
YOU however tried to throw me under the bus for pathetic page views.
Did you ever publish the fact that all my charges were dropped... of course not.

You and your Captain Save a Ho opinion are worth less than .02

We laugh at you

Mike South is only into accusations, retractions are not so much his thing

The man raises a good point, why not Mike?

I'm gonna guess it was Kevin that was shaking the girls down for sex and Mark was a victim of guilt by association, at least in this article.

As a female who used to work directly with Mark in the office this story is 100% bullshit. Mark would never in a million years do any type of trade for sex. The thought is soooo- far out its laughable.

How dare Mike South write something that is totally merit less. Not only is he putting a good name to shame he's also bringing down his own. As a man who doesnt have a clue.

Do the right thing and take it down. :2 cents:

Na, thats a bad guess dude. Axe to grind? I don't see anything in this thread about Kevin. I don't see any accusations in this thread or from Mike South towards Kevin. So lets not make this a Kevin thread; Ok?


Kevin wasn't there when they were charging $300 for pics. The answer on who the source is, happens to be pretty commonly known with in the porn community.


Just Dave

You sound surprised.

Agreed 100%

Perhaps, but the fact that the source has yet to be publicly named, or worse, that the source his/herself has not stepped forward on their own, certainly gives weight to it just being a sensationalist, baseless, fabrication. Realistically, what can one hope to accomplish via publishing serious allegations, and then providing zero foundation or fact, let alone a source.

Hear, hear.

:thumbsup

Mike South went south?

Bad publicity

I know it may come as a shock to yall but I really dont spend much time here...I also dont really care what the vast majority of you think.

What is interesting to me is of all the thing he was accused of the one that is the least damaging is the one everyone is up in arms about.

If he has in any way perjured himself to get a surety bond he is in deep dodo. He does have 3 bankruptcies and I have no idea how anyone with a bankruptcy would get a surety bond. That one IS a big deal.

As for the rest of it I dont doubt that agency politics are involved also probably some performer politics but I have a whole pile of performers including some A list girls that are very unhappy with Mark.

The story stands till otherwise shown to be incorrect....Mark doesnt wish to be on the record and thats his perrogative.

Since the first stuff isn't going to stick, you are now going to just throw dirt in the hopes something sticks. Dude, you need to get a life.

weird, i got him to go on record with one call...

http://thereal*************.com/braz...-prove-claims/

Shy Loves fingerprints are all over this btw...

I suspect there's more to come on this one..

Someone asked why everyone came to marks defense and not Hays??

Hays a POS, Mark isn't...

No axe, and no dog in the fight. Kevin was made mention in other posts about ATMLA on Mike's site. And Kevin pervin' on his talent is just as about commonly known.

In other words, guilty until proven innocent? That's a cool concept :thumbsup

I have gathered my thoughts over the past few days and decided to respond to the deliberate and personal attacks on myself and on my business entity known as ATMLA as recently reported on MikeSouth.com

First, I would like to thank all of you who have reached out to me directly as well on GFY with your support and reiteration of my character as many of you have known me and my wife for many years as peers, business associates, and friends.

Secondly, in concert with a direct message to Mike South via email, I am publicly requesting to Mike South that the 3 most recent posts as reported on MikeSouth.com be REMOVED. In return, I will agree to a one on one interview and Q & A directly with Mike South to answer questions concerning ATMLA, myself personally as an agent and individual and will answer to any claims of improprieties.

In response to the numerous false statements reported, I would like to publicly state the following;

For the past 30 years of my life, I have been an entrepreneur, a passive investor, and a financial risk taker, all of which carry a risk of financial impact that could potentially result in bankruptcies, liens and judgments as was the case with me in the early 1990’s, I lost a tremendous amount of assets in real estate, as well as losing a tremendous amount of money with involvement in gambling as I was involved in the casino industry for close to 20 years dating back to 1980. Hence, being that 20+ years have passed since those financial issues occurred, I had no problem securing a surety bond to cover my agency license.

In direct response to the claims publicly posted……

I have no idea who ESTELLE HENRY is and I am certainly not using his SSN.

I most certainly have a CA driver’s license, which has never been suspended or taken away for 40 years and counting.

I have 5 phones in my name, 1 for myself, 1 for my wife, and 3 for 3 of my 5 children.

Over the past 56 years of my life, I have lived in approximately 10 addresses. However, I have owned several pieces of investment properties that potentially show as residences.

I have 3 vehicles all registered in my name.

The 5 criminal records reported are all traffic related citations that appear in a background check comingled as “Criminal/Traffic Records”

Regarding my status with LATATA, being that this is an ongoing situation, I choose to keep the particulars confidential at this time, however, I will state that there was never any vote that resulted in ATMLA being declared a non-member of LATATA. I anticipate that my status will soon be reinstated.

As far as not abiding by any LATATA guidelines, again keeping particulars confidential, I will state that ATMLA’s billing practices and performer rates are no different than the majority of LATATA members, there may certainly be some differences in how non-shoot related expenses are calculated and accessed, but I will go on record to state that ATMLA is directly in line with the majority of LATATA agencies, and in many cases much less in regards to non-shoot related expenses. I would have no issues with anyone’s challenge to this with an invitation to reciprocate in an open books audit.

In regards to any of ATMLA’s represented talent “not liking” myself, or claims of “strong arming for lower rates”, and harassment in the model house. As with all cases of a population of people all involved with one person, it’s rare to find that 100% of that population “likes” that one person, but I am fairly certain that the vast majority of ATMLA’s talent population do “like” me, but managing a porn agency isn’t about being “liked”, it’s about business, and again, I am fairly certain the vast majority very much enjoy and appreciate my style of business.

Regarding claims of performers having to drop rates by half or more, this is totally absurd, ATMLA’s policy with performers rates are directly in line with the majority of the LATATA agencies.

Last but not least, the claim of offering an exchange of sex for the $300 cost of photos. I am extremely proud to go on record and state that in my 16 years and counting of involvement in the adult industry, I have never crossed the line of infidelity to my wife of 12 years, who is very well known and loved amongst many people in the industry, we have always represented ourselves in the industry as a pair, and for someone to make such false accusations and for Mike South to post is simply unethical and morally wrong.

In closing, I again ask Mike South to remove the 3 posts referred to here, feel free to post news worthy facts such as a pending LATATA membership issue, but I request substantiated facts and not ridiculous falsehood statements. My request for removal are directly related to my desire to not have my wife and my 5 children, grandchildren and family to be victims of collateral damage that is caused with such unethical and morally wrong false accusations.

Great post Mark.

Say hi to Marjie from me and Laura. See you in Vegas!

Nice post:thumbsup


Just Dave

Wonder if Mike will take you up on removing allegations etc. for of a real story/one on one...

Almost called you the other night to check in on you. See you and Marjie in Vegas, tell her I will have a redbull waiting for her.

Sorry to hear about all this baseless Bullshit Mark !:2 cents:

Regardless of Mike's follow up on this or not, pretty sure that well worded and professional response put the personal issues to bed...or should have.

I think that speaks to Mark's character in that he'd even give Mike the satisfaction of a response, let alone an exclusive, after the baseless nonsense he posted. The response could have likely just as easily been a legal one.

Same here.

Agreed. Though had it been handled with integrity by MS to begin with, it would not even be needed.

nice post. shouldn't have had to come to that, hopefully south sees his mistake and rights it

Very true, Mark has always been tops in my books in all the biz I have done with him over the years and on a personal level.

Mark, I think I told you at one of the shows that getting into the agent business was going to be the biggest headache you could have ever gotten yourself into.

I hope everything gets worked out, and you certainly have much better patience than I do.

Being a talent agent has to be the worst gig in the business. I don't envy you for what you are having to put up with.

Good luck and hopefully see you both in Vegas.

Great post, Mark.

Okay, South . . . ball/court