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L-Pink 10-20-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260209)
am I? i thought this was a free market. if you think there should be some communist oversight on what products i want to buy, that's your problem

my point, which you seemed to have missed, is that the car companies too big to fail can't seem to keep their skirts down when it comes fucking away with all these defects.

legislating requirements of warrant and service centers does nothing if the cars are still shit.

legislating 'oversight' bodies that just seem to be run by these automotive dealerships and eventually result in less or no fines or jail time.. also not helpful.

but call me names and go drink whiskey.

I haven't called you any names.

Communist oversite?

All Musk has to do is comply with the same laws and overhead everyone else is stuck with.

The only reason any quality exists at all is state/federal regulations designed to protect local consumers.

Even industry quality leader Toyota is forced to modify, repair, compensate owners.

Musk might be some "quality God" to you but he's just another car vender to state regulators.

Richard, I was in the auto repair business for decades. Trust me, consumers need recourse and without a physical presence in each state they are fucked.

seeandsee 10-20-2014 03:06 PM

Fycking gas comapines trying to stop the revolution

_Richard_ 10-20-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20260222)
I haven't called you any names.

Communist oversite?

All Musk has to do is comply with the same laws and overhead everyone else is stuck with.

The only reason any quality exists at all is state/federal regulations designed to protect local consumers.

Even industry quality leader Toyota is forced to modify, repair, compensate owners.

Musk might be some "quality God" to you but he's just another car vender to state regulators.

Richard, I was in the auto repair business for decades. Trust me, consumers need recourse and without a physical presence in each state they are fucked.

sounds good. looks like this company will be banned from doing business in the state for political and not safety reasons.

congrats on the huge success of the auto-repair business

L-Pink 10-20-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260290)
sounds good. looks like this company will be banned from doing business in the state for political and not safety reasons.

congrats on the huge success of the auto-repair business

So the regulations General Motors, Ford, Kia, Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai, Honda, Dodge, Jeep, Jaguar, Ferrari, Porsche, VW, etc, have to follow shouldn't apply to Tesla?

Congrats on your thought process.

fuzebox 10-20-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PAR (Post 20259719)
How great would it be if you could just visit a manufacturer's web site, configure your vehicle exactly as you want, and purchase it with complete price transparency without having to go through a dealership?
Most car buyers would prefer it this way, but it's actually illegal to do so.

I hate they car-buying process. So much bullshit, smoke and mirrors, and so difficult to buy the exact car you want at the right price without hours of nonsense jumping through hoops and paperwork and going back and forth between sales and management.

_Richard_ 10-20-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20260301)
So the regulations General Motors, Ford, Kia, Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, Hyundai, Honda, Dodge, Jeep, Jaguar, Ferrari, Porsche, VW, etc, have to follow shouldn't apply to Tesla?

Congrats on your thought process.

congrats on your assumption.

run along and spend your windfall

L-Pink 10-20-2014 04:39 PM

Richard, I've never lived in Canada so I won't make guesses on how regulations are there. In the US EVERYTHING is regulated in some way, shape or form ... liquor, food, cigarettes, clothing material, mattresses, lawn-garden products and yes car sales.

To expect special treatment just because your product is new or innovative or cool is foolish.

edit; The list of Federal regulations Tesla has already complied with is staggering, just opening a few dealerships in Texas, Michigan, etc in order to sell their product is nothing.


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_Richard_ 10-20-2014 04:45 PM

yea id rather not talk to someone who had/has financial interest in the system remaining the same.

we done here?

L-Pink 10-20-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260327)
yea id rather not talk to someone who had/has financial interest in the system remaining the same.

we done here?

Wow ............

And as far as the misleading thread title, nothing is being banned. Just open a fucking dealership in the state and start selling cars for fucks sake.

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_Richard_ 10-20-2014 05:04 PM

it is being banned. telsa has a manu to consumer direct, and that is what is about to be banned, backed by the good old boys.

L-Pink 10-20-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260342)
it is being banned. telsa has a manu to consumer direct, and that is what is about to be banned, backed by the good old boys.

Musk knows the US car game. Probably spent billions complying with Federal regulations already. He knows what states require a physical presence and knows he will eventually comply. Until then look at all the free publicity his brand is getting by stirring up people like you.


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_Richard_ 10-20-2014 05:13 PM

and you, yes?

TheSquealer 10-20-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260347)
and you, yes?

Your idiocy is "stirring" him up. Not tesla. Dipshit.

Most states have challenged this. Not to protect the status quo, but because the other dealers have to adhere to intense regulations that Tesla is not. And its the unions behind the challenges as much as it is dealers. Why not just fucking worry about Canada for a change and shut the fuck up about EVERYTHING American.

_Richard_ 10-20-2014 05:20 PM

how many times you gonna edit that?

L-Pink 10-20-2014 05:21 PM

Musk has a space company, he's perfectly capable of buying a closed Isuzu dealership and changing the fucking signs.

_Richard_ 10-20-2014 05:24 PM

but he hasn't, he has been fighting this state by state. more power to him.

and squealer? once again, i have a huge american family. so, maybe i am not american enough for you to talk about US Politics, but i don't give a rat ass about you, or your opinions.

L-Pink 10-20-2014 05:27 PM

The girls at Spearmint Rhino are waiting for me to waste some money, goodnight.

TheSquealer 10-20-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20260361)
but he hasn't, he has been fighting this state by state. more power to him.

and squealer? once again, i have a huge american family. so, maybe i am not american enough for you to talk about US Politics, but i don't give a rat ass about you, or your opinions.

Of course you care. You reply. I have family in Canada and elsewhere. So what? So do most people on this forum. i certainly don't spend my days fretting over every single little thing going on in Canada as if it affects me with the logic that i've got family there... and neither does anyone else here. My girlfriend is Canadian and her whole family is there, i doubt she even knows who the current Prime Minister is... like myself and others, she has a life and other things to worry about other than what some partisan politician did in another country, that will never affect her in any way, shape or form.

Its hard for me to keep remembering that you're just a peon for a company and that its in your job description to just sit here and post nonsense everyday while letting people occasionally know about new TGP galleries and site designs. I guess i keep thinking you'd be wise enough to do it with more sense and not be alienating people in the name of your company every single day. But as Mutt said, apparently, you're a "special hire" as there seems to be no other explanation for your employment.


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