Thebutcher hasn't made reparations on loans past due.

He also invited me as part owner of his forum aquisition on the proviso that the complete members database was intact and I would begin recieving 50% advertising income starting August 1 with advertisers he already had lined up and increasing dramatically in the fall. He sold it to me under conditions he could not meet and lied about the aquisition price.

Never recieved a cent on either.

He helped me in the past recover money from a sponsor and we were friends for over 2 years. Then I guess I got had.

He certainly seemed like it

Did you ever pay your casino debt back? :1orglaugh

I didn't post that! I don't know who the Butcher is or have ever dealt with him.. My account had been hacked...

Hit the back button on my tablet browser by mistake.. So reposted last comment...

You are the dumbest idiot on this board.

I had deals with him in past, and never got fucked

Alex read this carefully I am not going to reply to you here. I am going to lay out exactly what went on.

1. I facilitated collecting a lot of money for you from a sponsor that you bad mouthed on my board a couple of years ago. Free of charge like I have for a couple of dozens of others on my board. I did it and I am doing one right now to be nice to my members.


2. You lent money to people, I collected for you out of respect as a member on my board. I didn't have t do it.

3. You came to me in July asking me to cut you in on adultinsider . com when you saw I announced I bought it on my board. I told you day number one, I have this posted on my board SC and on AI that the database was corrupted and it was a 1 year scenario to get it rolling. You said fine.

I said I don't have time to run it. You run it I'll go 50/50 with you. You have done fuck all since then. You have not contributed a single dime to the hosting or any other expenses. I asked you at least 39 times on pm ( I have all the pm's saved) to go post there and participate in the management of the board. You have made a total of 12 posts since August when you finally joined that board. You did nothing to manage the board or contribute to it's growth.


4. You did some deal with a guy for $165 which he dicked you over, I told you a couple of days ago I will cover his shit out of the goodness of my heart since we are friends and he is a client of mine. I don't have to keep bailing you out, this is the 3rd time I was going to get you paid for no reason of mine. The first time when your sponsor was fucking you over, the 2nd time when you did some loan sharking exchange with a guy I tracked down, and this the 3rd time.


I told you it would be done 2 days ago, before I saw this thread I messaged you I will have paxum and paypal Monday I will take care of you.

5. A month after you came in as partner on AI you started crying to me about your dental bills and financial problems, and if I could buy you out or find a buyer to take over your share of AI. I said fine. But I did not have to do that, but I am a fair guy, you wanted out I said I'll sort something out. I really don't have time to argue.


6. What I am going to do as I told you is bail you out on the $165 you paid to some guy for links from me. I already told you this thursday. Again it is not my problem but I don't want 2 guys I know arguing over pennies.


7. I asked you nicely on email today not to go write crap, and you were rude to me, so I emailed you back saying you are banned on SC. I don't need your lip.


8. I did not threaten you as you posted in this thread, I advised you that you better stop the liable, because I will seek any and all legal remedies under the law.

9. I am a 2 finger tpyer and I make a lot of typos because I type very fast, you want to laugh at that be my guest.


Now here is the deal, stop posting lies and crap, I am going to send you $165 monday only because I said I would. Go get a life.

I am not going to reply here, I don't have the time to waste nor the reason to reply, this is the story. You want to carry on making up more lies, I advise you to think twice. I am done with idiots like you acting like key board warriors hiding behind a nick. You can always email me as I told you so this morning by email. But you are not going to get a reply here or any other public forum.

the butcher is good peoples :2 cents::2 cents:

Interesting backpedal.

Great, what's my prize?
One month's free membership to Bako-Is-a-Fucktard.com?

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Maybe the biggest 'nerd' on the board but dumbest idiot :Oh crap

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Clueless idiot

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Never bad mouthed anyone.. The thread is probably still there. We can ask the rep that helped get the money whether I bad mouthed her or her boss? But thank you again for assisting there


I only lent money to you and one other user who oddly wanted the money sent directy to you. When he didn't reply to my messages I politely created a thread asking them to get back to me. You deleted the thread promptly saying you didn't want 'drama' as the person was a regular buyer of yours and if they didn't pay you would cover it.

I said fine? Just like that? lol. Never had any idea you bought that board until you messaged me saying so. That your friend had bought half and had a crook leg so had to offload his share. Why would I (or anyone )pay for a board with no members) You said you would begin emailing them in the days after I sent payment.

You told me you don't have time to run it? That's why you supposedly got rid of your 76755574 or whatever sites so you could concentrate on that and your two other boards. You said exclusively you would run it as I have no experience in doing so and told you that. Remember how you kept asking me for more and more money to buy traffic.. and other things should I mention? Very shady stuff

As for my posts there I was talking to myself and so where you.

I loaned you $1700 which you agreed to pay? I loaned the other guy $165.. as above when I asked if he could contact me you deleted the thread.


You made money promises for months


You did because you did not adhere to the terms we agreed and you had no intention of doing so anyway.


What about the rest? YOUR debt. The misappropriated deal. You said you were a man of your word.

Many months of waiting and lies took its toll.

Not liable if its true.

Its gone public will stay public until its resolved. You help one day stab in the back the next.
You know where to reach me get your lawyer to send a letter.

Sure your not him? Your messages to me sounded oddly 'similar'.. He had plenty of time to establish some sleeper identities :1orglaugh

FYI.. As for my "new nick". I posted on Greenguy board where I had an account since 2007 and TheButcher told me to go back and tell them it was a "mistake" or a "joke".

Do you want to know what the business with the sponsor was? I just needed a replacement check.. wanna know who the sponsor was?? Been with them since early last decade. The owner is well known and couldn't have the decency to do that one thing after I made him shitloads. He literally made the lamest excuses. The rep who helped me (I think thebutcher just put me onto them.. but I thank him for that anyway) was very nice and helpful so don't want to drag her into this.

Would have just come here to resolve it but sometimes it is dammed hard making an account.. or was.. and there weren't many boards around anymore. So found butchers

So, Dave owes you $1700 ?

That's what I got out of all that.

And Brass Monkey is messaging you regarding this shit? lololol. That is just funny. I have no idea what The Butcher has on BM but it must be good.

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1700 (own loan)
165 (friends debt he offered to pay)
3500 for half the board and members he lied about plus promises of ad income starting Aug 1. Trying to find AI Dave to find out how much he paid cost we know it wasn't 7k

ya interested about bm too haha

So, Dave, The Butcher, owes you $5,365.00 ? Geez.

Good luck with that. Hope you at least end up getting some satisfaction because I doubt you are going to see any money.

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Yes.. but if I'm lucky I will get $165.. Monday was it?

It's always awesome watching a sociopath at work. Skilled manipulators. No sense of remorse, guilt, shame, regret and not possessing any other conscious based emotions that we all share and experience.

They remain largely invisible to us for two primary reasons.... first, we can't imagine it. We can't imagine not feeling guilt or remorse or shame etc. With that, For those who are normal for the most part, our brains just don't want to accept that others don't feel those things or experience those basic human emotions.

Secondly, like psychopaths, they have a lifetime of experience of faking emotions. They learn through trial and error to fake it. They have to fake it just to interact with others. They have to pretend to care. They have to pretend to feel a lot of things which normal people feel, otherwise people start to push them away, their sphere of influence shrinks and their ability to take advantage of others wanes. They learn to express the right emotions at the right times and that becomes a large part of the foundation they use to manipulate others. They learn to lie and manipulate it by being forced to day in and day out just to interact successfully with others. No better place to do your thing as a non-violent sociopath than in a biz full of dysfunctional people who love going in the opposite direction of everyone else. 10 people say the guy steals or stole from them, 10 other dysfunctional clowns chime in saying he's a "great guy".

Years later, this guy...who was one of the original forum con artists is still doing his thing. He does it well. He lies, cheats and steals and even gets others to come stick up for him. Masterful manipulation of simple minded and dysfunctional people and the textbook sociopathic attempts and playing the victim after the fact.

One defining trait of sociopaths is that they ALWAYS make a play for pity. they are ALWAYs the victim in every single scenario because they understand better than you how that simple tactic triggers a wide range of conscious based emotions in us (guilt, regret, embarrassment, shame etc), which they simply do not possess and which causes us to immediately back down and start seeing them as the victim and then start feeling sorry for them or feel we might be being too hard or unfair or even wrong.

Believing this fucking idiot is going to actually file a lawsuit against anyone is amusing. He's spent the last 10+ years borrowing 100 here, 200 there etc. In the list of top 10 entities who've lied and stole the most since 1998, he would likely fall right under Ibill and Epassport.

The odd part is that because he is sick in the head, he may pay you.... but he'll only pay you if he's shrewdly calculated that it will further some other personal interest and as history has proven anything, its to build trust so that he can screw someone else. But then again, when a person has no sense of guilt, remorse, shame, embarrassment and s so on,.. then he'll likely just find any weak rationalization not to pay, paint you as the villain, himself as the victim and move on to the next prey.

When he helped me get the money, I offered him a cut. He outright refused saying he just wants to help and doesn't take kickbacks and just wants to help.

I thought wow.. not many like him left in the world.

The same night he asked me for a couple hundred.. how could I refuse? Ofcourse I would of been happy just to give it to him for his help.

That was the start. He claimed few months later he got his friend to pay me, I didn't get anything and certainly wasn't going to press him so soon after he helped me

what TheSquealer said :thumbsup

Bet you it will be an ECheck from Paypal.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19889427&postcount=27

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yikes.. even for a measily $165?

I never understood why stores had that sign.. "no checks - refusal may offend" until now

I see we checked out another batch of self help books from the library again.

Unless the thieving sociopaths are the ones with the upload tubes ripping off the entire industry. In this case, you should find ways to profit from their existence such as exploiting their ill gotten traffic. And never say anything negative about them. That would be biting the hand that feeds you. It is better to attack any one who criticizes those thieves, then brag about how much you are making to other struggling webmasters.

Welcome to Fucked Up Psychology 101.

Holy Shit !!!

BINGO !!!

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Cool cool cool.

This threads prize is $100 paid by TheButcher via PP echeck.

I can't wait. Thanks to all of you who made this possible ;p

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Nothing you just said has anything at all to do with the fact this guy is a FUCKING NOTORIOUS con artist and thief and has been ripping people off left and right since his first appearance in this biz almost a decade ago.

btw... that stuff you would like to confuse with a "self help book" is called education.

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Oh the irony of a sociopath pointing fingers away from himself at others.

Why they ban Harmon and keep you around is baffling.

Not that I care, lol, but if I was trying to get paid and the party told me they were sending it in a matter of days, I wouldn't publicly try to make them look like an asshole with backhanded comments like that....

unless you don't care if you get it and your goal is to just make him look like a dick. In that case I guess it doesn't matter.

What does Harmon have to do with a guy who has been fucking people over for years and the mindless sycophants and dysfunctional personalities that defend him? Nothing? Thought so.

AHHH so i get the 2nd best 'Hot Spot', the lower-right corner? LOL What a fucked-up game of tic-tac-dough.

For me: I only ever said TheButcher ain't done nuthin' to ME. That somehow gets me in the 'Bro Club'? OK cool, where's my T-Shirt? :D

look what you made :1orglaugh staaalllkeeer

Sometimes the squealing dude is fucking sharper than a samurai sword :thumbsup

:2 cents: :thumbsup

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Did you seen anyone sprain their Master Debating wrists defending him?

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And you whine about this board being slow. It's slow due in part to dumbasses like you pretending to be the voice of industry ethics.

Let these guys work out their own shit. If they do, they do. If they don't, they don't.

You and your opinion? Highly irrelevant. Hypocrite? Thought so.