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DamageX 10-27-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20268249)
freedom of speech isn't a get out of jail free card for being a hateful vile cunt.

Actually, I am of the opinion that freedom of speech should allow for anyone's views to be expressed, be they racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever. Even if I despise them. As long as those views are simply hateful words, I believe they should be allowed. It's only when they're starting to encourage acts of violance, against the "hated" ones, that society/government should intervene.

Captain Kawaii 10-28-2014 04:21 AM

Keep opening your dimwitted yap Pimproll Glen and show us what kind of POS you really are.

Perhaps this is what pissed off the UK guy and why Hitler is back in the news. He didn't go to Argentina, he went to Tel Aviv.

Israel-Gaza conflict: Right-wing Israeli politician calls for Gazans to be â??concentrated in campsâ?? â?? and then all resistance â??exterminatedâ?? - Middle East - World - The Independent

The proof is in Feglins own facebook post. Pretty disgusting. The Likuds are ceiling the fate of their country.

Thousands of Jews are outraged at Feglin's NeoNzai comments. He is even banned from the UK. Has been for 6 years. Just WOW.

A senior Israeli politician has called for the ?conquest of the entire Gaza Strip? and the deportation of Palestinians to make way for Jewish settlers.

Moshe Feiglin, the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and a member of the governing Likud party, outlined his plans in an open letter to Benjamin Netanyahu published on Facebook.

Writing last week after the reported abduction of an Israeli soldier Hadar Goldin, he called on the Prime Minister to vastly increase the aggression of Operation Protective Edge, which has already killed more than 1,800 Palestinians and destroyed thousands of homes.

Demanding the end to the two-state solution, Mr Feiglin called for the ?annihilation? of Hamas and its supporters and the creation of camps where civilians from Gaza will be ?concentrated? until they can be deported to other countries.

He wrote: ?What is required now is that we internalise the fact that the Oslo [accord] is finished, that this is our country ? our country exclusively, including Gaza.

?There are no two states, and there are no two peoples. There is only one state for one people.?

His vision for the Gaza Strip is to rebuild it into a ?true Israeli tourist site? like Jaffa, described by Mr Feiglin as a ?flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians?.

pornmasta 10-28-2014 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20269118)
The proof is in Feglins own facebook post. Pretty disgusting. The Likuds are ceiling the fate of their country.

Hitler's Rant - Original Video with English Subtitles: Film = Downfall/Der Untergang - HD - YouTube

Feigling

aka123 10-28-2014 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 20268478)
Meh, Glen the average age of a WWII vet is 92. That is, if you can find one alive still.

Both of my grandfathers were WWII vets, and both died about 10-20 years ago, oldest one being 95. Depends from who you ask, they either fought on the axis side, or if you ask me, they didn't, as to us it was just another war against Russia.

seeandsee 10-28-2014 04:59 AM

What hitler was right, i hate when they assume what do you mean...

pornmasta 10-28-2014 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20269127)
grandfathers were WWII vets.


no no no, this is clearly a nazi helmet

https://gfy.com/avatars/aka123?dateline=1407359673

aka123 10-28-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20269161)
no no no, this is clearly a nazi helmet

https://gfy.com/avatars/aka123?dateline=1407359673

Sorta, and that is not my grandfather. :)

Jel 10-28-2014 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 20268528)
Actually, I am of the opinion that freedom of speech should allow for anyone's views to be expressed, be they racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever. Even if I despise them. As long as those views are simply hateful words, I believe they should be allowed. It's only when they're starting to encourage acts of violance, against the "hated" ones, that society/government should intervene.

I almost agree - except when it's directed directly against someone. eg if I was that tool mineistaken, I can talk generally about how I despise brown babies etc. But if I call someone who is black a hahahahahaha and society had it right when their grandad was a slave, that crosses the line into a personal attack. Attack someone personally, and expect to feel a consequence - seems many are unable to make that distinction though between general xyz-phobic stuff (which I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion) and directly calling a homosexual eg a shit stabbing queer cunt. Or directly telling that person AIDS was a great thing because it wiped out some of his fellow homos.

Funny, I was talking to someone the other day how many people feel they can say what they like, and run behind 'free speech' etc. There's definitely a distinction between free speech/personal attacks, and I'm truly amazed there aren't more killings in places like the US, where free speech is not only misinterpreted, but used as a shield to say whatever the fuck someone feels like saying, expecting no repercussions, and then being surprised when there are :upsidedow

bronco67 10-28-2014 06:15 AM

People should be allowed to say what they want. It's more dangerous behavior to put someone in jail for saying something, than it is to say "Hitler was right". Is it not obvious that the guy is wrong by saying that about Hitler? Why would anyone be threatened by that?

Jel 10-28-2014 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20269212)
People should be allowed to say what they want. It's more dangerous behavior to put someone in jail for saying something, than it is to say "Hitler was right".

that isn't the context of what happened though, is it. Not even a fucking bit. Sheesh.

Jel 10-28-2014 06:24 AM

'rapists are right'

a shit statement, but if someone wants to hold that view, well, that's their view.

getting a picture of someone's daughter who was raped, superimposing a roofie on their forehead, and sending that to them with the caption 'rapists are right' would be a slightly different matter - or am I the only one here who can see the difference? Is that just 'free speech', and dangerous to to suggest there might just be a consequence?

sperbonzo 10-28-2014 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20267912)
Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

Speaking as a Jew, who had a grandmother that survived a camp, I find this kind of law completely wrong and I always have. I was staggered years ago, when a French friend of mine told me that denying the Holocaust was a "crime" in Europe. That kind of censorship is total bullshit. If some wackjob moron wants to claim that it never happened, or that Hitler was a great guy, then he should have the right to say / print that crazyiness.

Luckily in the US, we are still clinging on to the right to free speech, but only barely.




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Cherry7 10-28-2014 12:13 PM

It is not "freedom of speech" but a death threat.

Like sending someone a bullet.

To send them a Nazi Jewish star and call them a "Jewish Communist"... we know what the Nazis did to Jews... is threatening behaviour.


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