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Slappin Fish 11-08-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20277969)
Very stupid question - this wonder item, coconut oil - it isn't even remotely supposed to have a coconut flavor, right?

I don't even know how to describe the flavor of the one I bought, but it was kind of like an oily wang flavor, maybe is the best way to say how it was... and d I mix it with anything to make the popcorn or just that? One place I found said t mix it with vegetable oil or whatever - maybe THAT is where it went bad wrong? lol

Refined coconut oil is bleached, and deodorized. sometimes partially hydrogenate too. doesn't taste like anything. It's a very unhealthy oil compared to its virgin pressed cousin.

arock10 11-08-2014 12:30 PM

What is the ratio of salads to whiskey drinks that is recommended.

BlackCrayon 11-08-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 20282689)
I'm gonna go with butter for the Daily Double on this one, Alex.

i've stuck with margarine for years due to the fact it contains no cholesterol but am thinking of switching to organic butter.

femdomdestiny 11-08-2014 04:02 PM

oh
 
nice post to read while eating :1orglaugh

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Tam 11-08-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20282782)
i've stuck with margarine for years due to the fact it contains no cholesterol but am thinking of switching to organic butter.

Water has no cholesterol in it - margarine has a great deal of water in it - try and fry potatoes in it, you get mush because of the water margarine adds to your food - and obviously it's going to have less of some things because water doesn't have all that in it. lol

We switched to real butter a year or two ago and we use way way less and our food tastes a 1000 times better..

We let a bowl of margarine sit out and a good 1/3 of the top of it was water when it melted.

PornoPlopedia 11-08-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20277819)
We have raised our kids .....

We actually prefer to eat healthy as we can and we all love fresh over canned but sadly in my area, it is so hard and so expensive - they don't get up out of the box much and when they do, it is the single most expensive project you can imagine.

Instead of canned try frozen vegetables. They are the better choice as they don't contain the amounts of preservatives and salts needed in the canning process.

Tam 11-08-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoPlopedia (Post 20282894)
Instead of canned try frozen vegetables. They are the better choice as they don't contain the amounts of preservatives and salts needed in the canning process.

Oh yeah, we've been doing a LOT of this the past little while now - we don't buy near the canned food we did at one time - it just tastes better too and isn't as nasty gel stuffs like canned is... but even at that, there are some things we just cannot get -

Just to show you, I was making stuffed chicken breasts tonight with spinach, mushrooms, and so on - I needed twine - SIMPLY THING CALLED TWINE - and we had to go to 4 stores before we found it and found it in a freaking hardware store - this area is terrible about having anything out of the box - lol

edgeprod 11-08-2014 07:28 PM

The unfortunate thing, as others has mentioned, is that there is no consensus on what exactly constitutes "healthy," beyond "don't eat cheetos for dinner".

SmutHammer 11-08-2014 08:47 PM

(For loosing weight)

I didn't read through everything but didn't notice anyone mentioning portion size. that is probably more important than what you are eating. Everywhere you go portions are way way bigger than what you should be eating. lower the portion size and eat more often 6-7 times a day. Drink a lot of water. and most important be active!

I like broccoli mixed with peppers and onions topped with mozzarella cheese.

SylviaMaroon 11-10-2014 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20281431)
This sounds really good, I'll try it. I love broccoli and rice noodles and so does she. They are very hard to find where I am though - starting to catch on, but by the time we know they are on the shelves, so does everyone else. lol

It's funny because I live in a SERIOUSLY redneck town, but I honestly think a great many of them are really TRYING to eat healthy, but the stores just can't seem to catch on!

Have you tried ordering online?
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RummyBoy 11-10-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20276424)
Ok, I have to get my daughter and I on a healthier diet - do you eat healthy and if so, what are some of your favorite recipes for a healthier living?

Oranges........ as much as possible.

Choopa Phil 11-10-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 20283104)
(For loosing weight)

I didn't read through everything but didn't notice anyone mentioning portion size. that is probably more important than what you are eating. Everywhere you go portions are way way bigger than what you should be eating. lower the portion size and eat more often 6-7 times a day. Drink a lot of water. and most important be active!

I like broccoli mixed with peppers and onions topped with mozzarella cheese.

Portion size really has nothing to do with it nor do small meals "speed up metabolism". Look up intermittent fasting.

Tam my best suggestion to you is teach yourself nutrition and learn the healthy protein/carb/fat ratios that work best with your body type. While there are some healthy suggestions in this thread I think you'd have much better luck speaking with a nutritionist about you and your daughters dietary needs directly. Thats how I learned most if not all my nutrition and it was the best money ive ever spent.

Slappin Fish 11-10-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20284405)
Portion size really has nothing to do with it nor do small meals "speed up metabolism". Look up intermittent fasting.

Tam my best suggestion to you is teach yourself nutrition and learn the healthy protein/carb/fat ratios that work best with your body type. While there are some healthy suggestions in this thread I think you'd have much better luck speaking with a nutritionist about you and your daughters dietary needs directly. Thats how I learned most if not all my nutrition and it was the best money ive ever spent.

It's for her and her kids though, don't think intermittent fasting is ideal for young kids who are growing up, going to school, etc.

SmutHammer 11-10-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20284405)
Portion size really has nothing to do with it nor do small meals "speed up metabolism". Look up intermittent fasting.

:1orglaugh ok... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Choopa Phil 11-10-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 20284595)
It's for her and her kids though, don't think intermittent fasting is ideal for young kids who are growing up, going to school, etc.

I wasnt suggesting it to her, my apologies if thats what i implied. What i meant was that eating 2500 calories in one sitting vs 2500 via 6 meals throughout the day will have no impact whatsoever on weight or body composition. If working out then yes. For the average person....certainly not.

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 20284674)
:1orglaugh ok... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Before you laugh, post some proof of this. its a very very very common misconception. Heres a small study of 1000's online http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0038632

jimmycooper 11-10-2014 01:48 PM

An appointment with a nutritionist should be covered by health insurance. At least that was the case for me earlier this year. The appointment was pretty much a waste of time as I already knew everything she covered. That being said, it's definitely worth a shot.

PR_Glen 11-10-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 20282703)
Refined coconut oil is bleached, and deodorized. sometimes partially hydrogenate too. doesn't taste like anything. It's a very unhealthy oil compared to its virgin pressed cousin.

I really don't think people can even buy the stuff with transfats in them anymore.. I'm pretty sure that has zero to do with whether it is virgin pressed or not.

PR_Glen 11-10-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 20284674)
:1orglaugh ok... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

He's right, he's leaner than anyone here and he eats more than all of us. You really think he's doing 6 hours in the gym to maintain that?

Choopa Phil 11-10-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20284739)
He's right, he's leaner than anyone here and he eats more than all of us. You really think he's doing 6 hours in the gym to maintain that?

I actually have a standing desk and run on a treadmill all day :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tam 11-10-2014 03:58 PM

They keep making her fast - 3 days and then eating normal for 4 days is part of what put her in the hospital - am not sure at all why, but she put her on a 3 day clear liquid diet and then said eat normal for 4 days and back into the Dr to see her and they ran labs again and her labs, whatever that is that says she had Pancreatitis shot from 310 to over 1500 and put her right into the hospital that day - and it's been one stupid thing after another - each time she put her on that fasting thing, she seemed to only get more sick.

This Dr she is seeing now is an Upper G.I. Specialist and he is even questioning that method and said it wasn't making sense - and so FAR, he isn't finding the shit the other chick was finding - she has more tests tomorrow, x-rays of her upper G.I. area -

We SHOULD know what is going on this week, with any luck, it's been 4 solid weeks of this and she is getting better NOT having to deal with that first Fr, so far there has been nothing causing the specialist to see what she seen and no signs of alarm - not to say nothing is wrong, but whatever it is, it's not what she was saying at all!!

I am not above a Nutritionist at all - we had to see one for my oldest daughter when she was little because she had some digestive issues as well, but seemed to grow out of it -

Regardless - we are on low fats, not NO fats, low fats and she seems to do better - without much dairy - that we've been cutting or going lower fat on and she's improving... this is just plain deductive reasoning based n what's making her hurt and what isn't here at home.

Tam 11-11-2014 10:32 AM

It is looking like her Gallbladder - we will know in the next day or two - more tests today are pointing there - which is a HUGE plus compared to what we were expecting or being told before - but if that's all, it can be removed easy and quickly while she is young. ;)

Choopa Phil 11-11-2014 10:35 AM

I was going to say if its fats related it sounded like gallbladder since its responsible for bile storage and production... had assumed that would have been one of the first things the dr checked out to be honest, thats why I didnt mention it -__- . This is very similar to an issue I had when i was excessively eating natural peanut butter. Hope you have much better luck with your new doctor

Tam 11-11-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20285733)
I was going to say if its fats related it sounded like gallbladder since its responsible for bile storage and production... had assumed that would have been one of the first things the dr checked out to be honest, thats why I didnt mention it -__- . This is very similar to an issue I had when i was excessively eating natural peanut butter. Hope you have much better luck with your new doctor

She was going batshit crazy on ice cream - dairy - wheat cereal (but wasn't doing much good when the dairy was what messed with her).

I am just really pissed at that first Dr - she jumped right to worst case and she actually did more damage than good - her putting he ron the yo-yo diet thing - that just made matters escalate much faster than they should have - so in other words, she jumped right to worst case instead of going the obvious route as well - and I TOLD her there was a gallbladder thing in her paternal side of the family right up front at the very first so to check that first. Damn stupid woman!

bronco67 11-11-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20282598)
what do you guys think is better health-wise? butter or non-hydrogenated margarine?

Kerrygold unsalted grass fed butter(Most other butters are shit.). I've been using it to get good fats in my diet, along with coconut/mct oil.

I've basically cut way down on carbs and replaced with good fats and protein to keep my system in a state of ketosis (fat burning mode). I carb load once a week.

Slappin Fish 11-11-2014 12:11 PM

nevermind...

DWB 11-11-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20277826)
If it has a label you probably don't need to be eating it.

In a nutshell... this. :2 cents::thumbsup

Antonio 11-11-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20285926)
In a nutshell... this. :2 cents::thumbsup

Yup, never seen a pussy with a lebel ...

Tam 11-11-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 20285926)
In a nutshell... this. :2 cents::thumbsup

I am really starting to think the same damn thing - it's extremely rare t see a label that has less than 2000000 things you can't say - lol

BlackCrayon 11-12-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20285832)
Kerrygold unsalted grass fed butter(Most other butters are shit.). I've been using it to get good fats in my diet, along with coconut/mct oil.

I've basically cut way down on carbs and replaced with good fats and protein to keep my system in a state of ketosis (fat burning mode). I carb load once a week.

yeah, we can't get that kerrygold in canada...some stupid import laws and since its so cold here its impossible to get 100% grass-fed but there are a few companies that say they are mostly grass-fed. i have only switched to butter for the past week or so but one thing i notice is how much less butter i use in comparison to margarine. i guess like tam said, butter actually tastes like something so you use less of it.

Validus 11-12-2014 11:19 AM

Healthy eating is a tricky thing because everybody is so different. I'd recommend really digging into healthy eating and trying to learn as much as possible about it all. Different strokes for different folks. Have a look at Healthful Pursuit (www.healthfulpursuit.com), she really knows the science behind healthy eating with lots of resources and stuff.

Seth Manson 11-13-2014 10:19 PM

150 tuna sandwiches

Tam 11-13-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Validus (Post 20287080)
Healthy eating is a tricky thing because everybody is so different. I'd recommend really digging into healthy eating and trying to learn as much as possible about it all. Different strokes for different folks. Have a look at Healthful Pursuit (www.healthfulpursuit.com), she really knows the science behind healthy eating with lots of resources and stuff.

That's why I posted here - to get a lot of various ideas and perspectives - this is yet another major change in our lifestyle - last one was in 2007 for my Diabetes - and now this... but this one concerns my kid, so I am a little more jumpy and wanting to make very sure I don't do her any harm.

Validus 11-14-2014 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tam (Post 20289201)
That's why I posted here - to get a lot of various ideas and perspectives - this is yet another major change in our lifestyle - last one was in 2007 for my Diabetes - and now this... but this one concerns my kid, so I am a little more jumpy and wanting to make very sure I don't do her any harm.

Believe it or not, there are quite a lot of people out there who wouldn't care much. Or pretend to care and not actually work on change. Food is very important, there is so much garbage out there and misleading marketing.


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