50 mile high wave!

Speaking of making the audience pay attention, there's another cool thing going on in the movie.

SPOLIERS!

A lot of attention is paid to the library and the books. If you look closely you can read the titles of the books. One of them is "Winters Tale" with the first words of the first page reading "I have been to another world, and come back. Listen to me". Time's Arrow is a story told in reverse (like "Momento")... Another book was The Stand of course..

Usually Nolan has lots and lots of detail in his movies. In Inception for example, the music of the movie is the same as the song by Edith Pilaf (I forget the name), but played much slower. In The Prestige, there are tons of hints shared with the viewer telling you what is really going on, that you do not normally see in the first viewing. I am wondering and hoping that there is more of this kind of cool stuff going on with Interstellar.

[QUOTE=Relentless;20283601]@********** just a quick note on spoilers. I didn't mention any spoilers until after warning people early in the thread. At this point anyone reading should already have seen the spoiler warnings by now.[quote]

I hate it when people spoil movies (I didn't even click this thread until after I saw the movie), so I'm just being over protective.


Trust me, I wish science-fiction movies were more scientifically accurate, and knowing Kip Thorne was involved in this movie boosted my expectations for this. At the same time, the artists behind the camera have to make creative decisions and dumb shit down sometimes, which sucks. I love Sci-fi that is grounded in reality, but I don't mind giant leaps either.

Ehhh, I believe I will be back when I watched Interstellar. No point arguing with any of you until then :1orglaugh

FYI: I love scifi's but gravity was a big disappointment

Methinks this thread is more entertaining (and accurate?) than Interstellar.

May I ask you, how did you manage no to be emotionally involved that you noticed something scientifically funny at all?

Emotionally involved with who?

The irrelevant son played by Casey Afflec?

The cold but poorly established Michael Cain character?

The guy on the ship whose only purpose in the plot was to be killed by a tidal wave like a redshirt on the Enterprise?

The black genius who had to explain really basic science to the Pilot?

The daughter who is insane/psychic/brilliant/dumb all at the same time?

John Lithgow who rides a rocking chair and offers lines of dialogue that amount to nothing?

These were all poorly established cardboard cutout costars because the main character of the film was supposed to be the Universe and Science... which is what makes it's most glaring failings to abide by known reality even more significant.

Do you know why the robot was extracting vague bits of 'quantum data' from the black hole? Because Nolan was too lazy or simply unable to bother creating any kind of plausible reason why entering a black hole would reveal information necessary to the plot.

Good scifi makes plausible assertions, builds on the known to explore the unknown, carefully constructs plot points that lead to logical conclusions that may or may not be accurate but are at least worth considering.

Bad scifi like this gets stuck in black hole sized plot errors and then burps out "Love", "Quantum Data", "Fate", or "Magic" as the vague solutions to try and fill the holes. Not only did this movie try to do that, the holes were actually too big for them to fill with special effects and metaphysical nonsense.

Nearing 500 views on this one post about the film by an inadvertent critic who saw the movie. Now ask yourself, if you had a 160M dollar movie, six months to plan ahead and a couple dozen people like me working on it... how many views and opinions might we change? How many points on IMDB ratings might we impact for opening weekend? How many extra tickets might be sold before people find out how bad the movie is... and how many sheep might actually like the movie simply because we told them they should...?

In reality, Sony/WB had more like 2 years to plan ahead and instead of dozens of people their PR Marketing Blogging and Reviews machine is likely to include hundreds of people controlling thousands of "real" accounts on sites like IMDB, MetaCritic, home spun Blogs and all the rest. In the world of marketing, human consensus often dictates reality and while reality can not be manipulated... human consensus can be manipulated much easier than many people seem to think by people who do it well... and the people who do it well happen to often be employed by the people with 160M dollar budgets :winkwink:

Yes, indeed, you were not emotionally involved. The idea of the film is not any new, rather basic and simple: when the time comes one has to put his shit together to fight for what he loves if there is a minimal chance. This is called love, emotional thing. :2 cents:

I liked it :)

I just saw it, and I do admit it is one of the best movies of 2014!

Check IMDB Score: 9.1 : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/

Yes, it's currently rated a better movie than: 2001, Blade Runner and True Romance according to IMDB lol.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062622/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108399/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I wonder how that could have happened :winkwink:

Strange that the top review on IMDB is currently this one: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur50146734/...ts?ref_=tt_urv

It's a long semi-professionally written glowing review by pipoulefr. He must really love movies and be an extrodinary critic to be up voted so heavily by other IMDB accounts. I wonder why this is the First And Only review pipoulefr ever posted on IMDB about any movie. I guess he was just so moved by this one film that he suddenly decided to become an active reviewer on IMDB... and all the upvotes can easily be explained as begginer's luck.

That's much more plausible than a manufactured marketing campaign being heavily funded by people with 160M dollars at stake... Right? :1orglaugh

Ok, after the debates in this thread now I want to see this movie to see for myself. And I am not a sci fi fan, just curious if it is great or shitty seeing two different opinions here :)

Just seen it...I loved it
well acted
well directed
good twist

Me too. 'Nuff said.

Everyone else: Hate it all you want, but trying to justify or rationalize your hate for it won't change anyone elses mind (as my like for the movie won't change yours). Just enjoy the nearly 3 hours of escapism already.

Want another good movie? "Somewhere in Time". HG Wells chases Jack the Ripper into the 1970's through a time machine that runs on pure fucking magic. Or, try "Somewhere in Time" about a guy who travels back in time by pure will just to meet the girl of his dreams. Both really good movies.

SPOILER ALERT

For every movie that comes out, there will be people that like it and people that don't.

People take pleasure from different things.

Pretty much EVERYBODY who writes a review has an agenda of some sort. Be it to get views to a site or a sig, desire to be regarded as an authority by their peers, to boost the film's popularity, to dampen a film's popularity.... I could go on but you get the picture.

I have found many movies that had great reviews to be crap and I have found many movies with crap reviews that I thought were actually good.

Moral of the story? Take reviews with a pinch of salt and always make up your own mind.

Funny...Neil Degrasse Tyson..seems to enjoy it
http://www.hugecool.com/2014/11/inte...d-twitter.html

You mean the guy whose entire career is based on getting people to take an interest in science happened to like a scifi film that put some space travel concept on screen? And the fact that one of his close friends was a producer of the film didn't factor in at all I'm sure.

If you read his comments, he like some of the science in it and completely avoids the plot, pacing or directing of the film. It's as if a giant black hole swallowed his opinion of the story. :Oh crap

I'm not sure what is funnier. Arguing about the accuracy of the science involved in a sci-fi movie or gfy'ers claiming they have a 'basic understanding of science'...

For the record. If you use the term 'flick' when referring to a movie or film? You have just told everyone that nobody should listen to what you think about it.

I am not going to miss this movie! Interesting thoughts in this thread. As for your IMDB 'conspiracy' idea, Relentless, that is definitely possible.

the imdb conspiracy theory is completely preposterous.

as if either imdb doesn't scrutinize reviews to keep organized tainting of their database from happening or they are in on the bamboozle means they could not give 1 shit re: their own integrity as the premiere, go-to movie database?

right.

next, if this movie needed to propped up this way, why aren't the movies that really suck propped up this way?

I could keep going. but really an imdb conspiracy where the movie studios budget marketing dollars to pay out $100s of thousands of $$$$ to people to upload fake reviews? :1orglaugh

DynaMo, the #1 review of the film is written by an account with 0 other reviews, being upvoted by hundreds of other accounts. That doesn't seem dubious to you? Any idea how easy it would be to create a few hundred IMDB accounts and create an upvote circle-jerk among them to impact ratings and perception of a film?

Now, imagine how easy it would be with 2 years planning, 160M budget and WB/Sony backing you... :pimp

Your conspiracy is possible. Like it is possible that fans liked the movie hence they upvoted that review made by new member (every member had first reviews at some point).

You sound like conspiracy is 100% certain and genuine review is 0% possible. It is not the case. And you base that mostly on the fact that YOU did not like the movie.

Seeing it Tuesday.

I have learned one thing. Make my own choices of movies and dont trust others opinions.

No. I base the fact that I didn't like the movie on my opinion that the movie sucked.

I base my understanding of 'how reviews, ratings, upvotes, social media, and blogs work on the internet' on many years of practical experience making a living online in the niche (in mainstream and adult). There is a good reason why Mountain Dew almost ended up with a new flavor named "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" and the Danube almost had a bridge named after Steven Colbert.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/14/...orribly-wrong/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyeri_Bridge

If you believe the public controls perception on the internet... you are in the wrong line of work. :pimp

I love it. Watched it twice. I didn't go expecting it to be perfect and 100% factual, it's a movie, not a documentary. I went to be entertained for a few hours, which I was. I will see it again in IMAX before it comes to DVD, and then I'll buy the DVD.


Because it was better than all of those movies. :2 cents:

One of my Chinese girls waited on the movie actors tonight at her restaurant in Shanghai. Tonight is Hathaway's birthday and the cast was in China for the opening of the movie there. She said Hathway is a vegetarian, is super skinny in person and has a really loud mouth. lol

DWB you think Interstellar was a better film than 2001, Blade Runner and True Romance?
Say yes and we can move on... because if you really believe that we will never agree anyway ;)

You base "the fact" that reviews were rigged on:
a) the fact that you did not like the movie
b) the fact that rigging happens

That only says that it was POSSIBLE that reviews were rigged. While you present it as a fact.


What's more - lets say you liked the movie and thought it was great, greater than 2010 odyssey etc. Then you would not advocate rigging that much because you would agree with the rating higher than oddysey (because you yourself would think that).
So yeah, fact that YOU did not like the movie has a big part in your thinking that reviews were rigged. You completely ignore possibility that people could actually like the movie that YOU personally did not like...

I thought I was on /tv/ for a second.

There aren't many comfy enough theaters around here for a 3 hour long movie, so fuck that noise, gonna get the bluray and sit on my comfy ass couch when it comes out.

2001 and Blade Runner were fantastic movies, but I don't own them on DVD nor have any intention on buying them. However, I will buy Interstellar when it is released.

That said, if 2001 were to be released today, or perhaps when the new Blade Runner is out, I may think differently. But as it stands, yes, Interstellar is better.

confused matthew's 45 minute long scathing video dissection of 2001: a space odyssey.

http://confusedmatthew.com/2001%3A-A-Space-Odyssey.php it's worth checking out bits, he rips apart 2001 like Relentless shredded interstellar.

For the soundtrack alone, you are missing out.

On that I agree. The soundtrack was well done. I'd rather have had Interstellar on an instrumental CD than on a video Blueray.

Though the sound mixing was terrible, often drowning out dialogue and doing it on Michael Caine's dying words was very misguided.

The fact someone is trying to 'shred' 2001, a movie from 1968, says a lot about the esteem of that film. 40 years from now, nobody will be shredding Interstellar... the same way nobody is now shredding http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061592/ or a long list of other badly made unimportant films from 40 years ago.

I actually found some negative reviews of 2001 from 1968, before, as confused matthew points out, it was against the rules to not like 2001.

are you also stating that someone cannot not like 2001 for the very same reasons you are not liking interstellar?

seems that way based on that 2001 shredding, I found it very similar to your's.

Anyone can like or dislike anything and be right, as it's a matter of taste. However, anyone who thinks IMDB can't be 'gamed' is wrong as a matter of fact. :winkwink:

Lol everyone, take a step back already.

Not everyone will agree that any movie is good. Or bad. People either like a movie or they don't.

2001 is a long dull and boring movie but I still liked it. And don't forget, the original audiences hated the movie too until they re-relased the movie posters with the tagline "The Ultimate Trip".

Bladerunner was a good and beautiful movie for sure, but don't forget the voice-overs which people loved or hated (I liked), the visible wires lifting the cars, the strange dubbing of some of the voices (The snake guy), the obvious stunt double (girl crashing through the grass), the Horrible addition of the Unicorn while Deckard plays the piano, etc etc. There are about 5 different versions released over the years with director Ridley Scott shitty attempts to fix his movie.

Finally, I care more about the artists behind the movie than what armchair critics on IMDB have to say. You should too.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...


I'm out...

Awesome movie, loved it!
Not perfect, but still very very good.
Best movie of the year so far for me, together with Edge Of Tomorrow.

Super awasome movie. Really good.

i havent seen interstellar yet, but gravity was a big letdown. Overhyped feel good crap.

I disliked it. Previews led me to believe it was action/adventure movie with them exploring new worlds. Reality, new worlds sucked nothing happened.
Robot was fucking idiotic.
Apparently 'love' is important, I disagree

Relentless is correct, IMDB is exceptionally easy to manipulate and their system is a joke. It wouldn't take much effort to incorporate a number of flags to prevent companies manipulating the ratings and reviews but IMDB don't seem to care.

Other reviews on the first page with accounts less than 1 year old or little user activity

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur51785825/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur40285567/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur54142477/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur47633581/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur36545996/

For anyone who is a film buff/heavy IMDB user, this stuff is blatently obvious :2 cents:

this is a movie trying to scare people green :2 cents::2 cents: nothing more

no, relentless is not correct. and neither are you. You can't provide one single fucking iota of proof. fucking film snobs go fuck yourself.

for any film buff? what a fucking snob.

your big proof are users with 1 review? that's about as 3rd grade level logic as it gets.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dear fuckwad film snob, for anyone who actually saw this movie and read the imdb reviews, it's blatantly obvious they are representative of a large swath of people who enjoyed the movie.

gofuckyourself.

These are all excellent points, I agree!

The pace of the film was all over the place!

The viewer is given pretty much zero back story about the mess the world is in, the first 10 - 20 minutes should have given the viewer a graphic insight into how desperate the situation had become. Resource wars, mass riots, martial law etc - I'd imagine if this was mankind's last generation on earth it would look a lot like the scenes in Elysium (2013) or District 9 that show scenes of abject poverty and despair.

No no we get none of that, Nolan didn't even bother painting a bleak picture at all so we get no sense of urgency about the impending doom for mankind.

Then we go from a very slow pace with a lame ass backstory for the first 30 minutes to Cooper and has daughter finding this super secret NASA compound and within the next 15 minutes Cooper is flying the space mission with the fate of humanity in his hands, seriously?

This is a critical part of the film and needed at least 20 - 30 minutes for the pace of the story to flow, they fast forwarded and glossed over one of the most critical parts of the film!

Also the idea that Cooper would find the NASA base by accident and then 5 minutes later they'd pick him to pilot the mission is beyond absurd, it's fucking retarded!

I'd expect this type of ridiculous writing from some idiots creating some low budget rubbish but not the Nolan Brothers, not 2 of the most talented screenwriters of our generation!

I'm glad there are people slating the film because it does not justify it's current ranking on IMDB. Chrispher Nolan set the bar with Inception (2010) which was his masterpiece, I expected something at least near this standard and it fell short.

Anyone who thinks Interstellar (2014) is a masterpiece belongs to the blockbuster action movies crowd who leave their critical thinking at the door.

It's a great film until you start thinking about it...

I'll watch it again before making a final judgement but atm I think the film is probably a 7/10. It's a shame because I was really looking forward to this film, I'm a massive fan of Nolan but he really has let himself down with this film