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Relentless 11-12-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20287248)
Obviously you missed the fact he was never planning to see his dad ever again and Clarence says they'll mail him a postcard when he drives off. it's simply lazy writing by tarantino. tarantino can do better than that.

That's part of the beauty of the scene. Hopper understands he will be killed no matter what he does or says, so he goes out the best way he can. Meanwhile it shows Clarence leaves a wake of trouble everywhere he goes, no matter how unintended. You'd be better off arguing something else... finding fault with True Romance is the kobayashi maru of movie arguments.

dyna mo 11-12-2014 01:18 PM

no, I'm saying

1. You have not proven Interstellar is an awful movie.

2. You have not proven IMDB is being gamed by the studio in this instance

3. what? no, I said tarantino got lazy writing true romance, that scene highlights that. now I'm not the sort to conclude that ruins the entertainment value of it, it doesn't for me. nor do the other plot issues that movie had.

because if anything were to do that for this film, it would be christain slater.

xsabn 11-12-2014 01:19 PM

i really like it!

Relentless 11-12-2014 01:21 PM

Incidentally Tarantino disagrees with you... he calls this scene one of the proudest moments of his career:


dyna mo 11-12-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20287253)
That's part of the beauty of the scene. Hopper understands he will be killed no matter what he does or says, so he goes out the best way he can. Meanwhile it shows Clarence leaves a wake of trouble everywhere he goes, no matter how unintended. You'd be better off arguing something else... finding fault with True Romance is the kobayashi maru of movie arguments.

oh, hopper kills it here, that's obvious he knows he's dead, it's well-played. nevertheless, that really has nothing to do with the note on the fridge. sure slater is a doof, but we already know that, due to other parts of the film being well-done/better. not to mention walken's crew stumbling upon it on top of all that.

the note reveal plays out poorly. poor writing really.

dyna mo 11-12-2014 01:30 PM

th epoint of that scene was not to have the address discovered, it was simply to have some fantastic dialogue and acting between 2 of the best. the finding of the note was just a quick wrapup to that dialogue scene/segue to the next chapter in the movie.

Relentless 11-12-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20287268)
th epoint of that scene was not to have the address discovered, it was simply to have some fantastic dialogue and acting between 2 of the best. the finding of the note was just a quick wrapup to that dialogue scene/segue to the next chapter in the movie.

I don't agree.

The closest you might come to a slight of that scene is that the 'you're a cantaloupe' line by Walken was actually ad-lib and was not in the original script. It's a brilliant quip in response to Hopper calling him an eggplant with the play on words that hopper is a white guy who 'can't elope' from his predicament... but it was Walken's genius to come up with it on the fly rather than anything Tarantino originally wrote.

FoxyFletch 11-12-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20287213)
I don't see the comparison between inception and interstellar either.

Basically they're both movies that would seem dreamed up by Hollywood and engineered specifically to make sales and make people go "WOW IT HAD ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF AN AMAZING MOVIE, WITHOUT THE AMAZING MOVIE PART"

Inception vs Shutter Island. Say no more.

dyna mo 11-12-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20287275)
I don't agree.

The closest you might come to a slight of that scene is that the 'you're a cantaloupe' line by Walken was actually ad-lib and was not in the original script. It's a brilliant quip in response to Hopper calling him an eggplant with the play on words that hopper is a white guy who 'can't elope' from his predicament... but it was Walken's genius to come up with it on the fly rather than anything Tarantino originally wrote.

hah, i can see that happening. for me, the scene ends abruptly, as if qt wrote the dialogue ,hi5'd himself, sat back and realized he forgot the scene was actually required in the plot for walken to continue pursuing clarence, but he'd left that out so he simply put a note on the door.

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Originally Posted by FoxyFletch (Post 20287284)
Basically they're both movies that would seem dreamed up by Hollywood and engineered specifically to make sales and make people go "WOW IT HAD ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF AN AMAZING MOVIE, WITHOUT THE AMAZING MOVIE PART"

Inception vs Shutter Island. Say no more.

:thumbsup

that's the entire point of inception! it's an elaborate behind the scenes movie about making a movie. You're absolutely right, there's no message there. entertainment value is high though. inception can withstand multiple viewings and still be fun to watch and discuss after, which to me, is a hallmark of a good movie- just be entertaining and engaging enough to be able to chat about.

I have not seen shutter island.

Relentless 11-12-2014 03:25 PM

@DynaMo btw check your GFY PM Box

dehash 11-12-2014 05:51 PM

Watched it yesterday in IMAX, good drama, I liked it.

Drake 11-12-2014 07:56 PM

It was't bad. I give the edge to Nightcrawler.

2MuchMark 11-14-2014 11:39 AM

Here's a really cool map to help understand the movie's timeline.

http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_f...r-timeline.png

Direct link to image: http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_f...r-timeline.png

TylerBang 11-14-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20283514)
I just saw it. I am a major science fiction nutjob. I love the movie.
I do not get what there is to complain about. I mean without giving away too much...did you expect that the black hole was going to be explained in any reasonable fashion? We have no idea what to expect. Besides being ripped apart and crushed..lol

I thought the movie was awesome. I might even go see it again this week. Switch to Imax though i suspect some of the visuals would have been amazing on Imax


Same here. Saw it at a noon showing, without IMAX. Liked it a lot.

It started off slowly but once they developed the intitial characters it was a pretty good sci fi adventure.

I'm giving it an 8.5 and I plan to watch it again in IMAX. It received good reviews on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes for a reason, because it is a damned good film.

DWB 11-14-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20289876)
Here's a really cool map to help understand the movie's timeline.

http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_f...r-timeline.png

Direct link to image: http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_f...r-timeline.png

One error there is that image says Romilly didn't go into sleep stasis for 23 years, but he actually said he slept a few stretches when Brand asked him. And then decided not to sleep his life away.

jaYMan 11-14-2014 12:39 PM

Tom a Tom fan, that being said, this movie is the widest release on IMAX ever.

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 08:01 AM

Watched this the other day on Blu Ray.

Sucked.

Nolan can't direct a decent movie to save his life. He is officially the most overrated director on the planet.

The film was scientifically implausible to such an extent that I could not suspend disbelief and enjoy the film at face value. Pseudo- philosophical use of feelings with respect to the multi-dimensional time-space is simply ridiculous. The plot made no sense and never explained anything. I love how the protagonist is asked to pilot a spacecraft on a billion dollar intergalactic mission (during a time of world wide famine, no less) the very next day! Forget a physical or psychological or refreshing your memory, just show up tomorrow man!

I could go on but what's the point. Typical Hollywood tripe with cringe-worthy lines, like a top scientist saying "Love is the one thing that we?re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space." Ugh.

CaptainHowdy 03-20-2015 08:08 AM

It's a good science-fiction movie, that's all ...

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20423665)
It's a good science-fiction movie, that's all ...


It's not.

Bladewire 03-20-2015 08:52 AM

The fake square robots were distracting but the plot twists,FX & lofty mind bending convinced me a couple hours in that even though they bit off more then they could chew it wasn't a total wast of time.

mineistaken 03-20-2015 09:15 AM

Can someone explain why Mat Damon (A+ lister?) is being underpromoted in this movie? I mean I did not even know he was in the movie. I opened Interstellar (2014) - IMDb and he is not even there (in the firstly visible results)!

How is that possible, why not to monetize on him? I mean at least put him in visible IMDB credits...

Serious question....

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 09:20 AM

Anyone here watch Event Horizon with Sam Neil and Laurence Fishburne?

The part where a scientist explains to Cooper how a wormhole works is lifted (copied) directly from that film. I mean, it's exactly the same, with the x's, the line, the folding of the paper and the pencil piercing it.

Also, does anyone else find it extremely ridiculous that this scientist is explaining to the pilot of the mission what a wormhole is only minutes before he has to go through it. LOL.

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20423743)
Can someone explain why Mat Damon (A+ lister?) is being underpromoted in this movie? I mean I did not even know he was in the movie. I opened Interstellar (2014) - IMDb and he is not even there (in the firstly visible results)!

How is that possible, why not to monetize on him? I mean at least put him in visible IMDB credits...

Serious question....

Maybe it's suppose to be a surprise. Kind of like Kevin Spacey was in Seven.

_Richard_ 03-20-2015 09:24 AM

oddly enough the wiki shows the executive producer being a Theoretical physicist and acted as scientific consultant, while having the critics: 'who gave particular attention to the film's scientific accuracy'

Tom-LifeSelector 03-20-2015 09:48 AM

I don't like that film, the first part of the film was interesting but the second part was boring. Save 2,5 hours in your life and do not watch it :pimp

Bladewire 03-20-2015 09:56 AM

"For a cornfield scene, Christopher Nolan sought to grow 500 acres of corn, which he learned was feasible from his producing of Man of Steel (2013). The corn was then sold and actually made a profit." IMDB

scuba steve 03-20-2015 09:56 AM

haha i'd like to see how many gfy scientists with actual credentials disprove the things discussed about in the movie. not some bullshit youtube conspiracy link or vid. someone here that is a mathematics or astrophysics or anything related to that education

2MuchMark 03-20-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxyFletch (Post 20287191)

The things I hate most about Interstellar:
Movie beings by selling space toys to kids.
Then the movie introduces the 4x4 they're selling

Huh? I must have missed that completely. Coop's daughter is playing with model of the Lunar lander. It might be a toy you can still buy but its not like she was showing the brand of it to the camera. The model is also a key element in the film and the story. It is the first science of the "ghost", it reminds us that Coop is a pilot and believes science. It also reminds us that Murphy believes science too, which is what gets her into trouble at school.

I actually love this part because it suggests that since they teach in school that landing on the moon was faked and never happen, that the politicians behind denying science won, and they might have been the ones responsible for fucking up the planet. Subtle jab? You betcha.


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Originally Posted by FoxyFletch (Post 20287191)
Also, it's the same bullshit as inception, no actual ending, lots of mysteries, total bullshit.

Wow... !! Foxy, I urge you give Inception another watch and pay really close attention to it. The ending is one of the coolest most amazing endings I've ever seen. At the very last frame of the movie, the spinning top wobbles. If you blink, you missed it, and then poof, black screen. The top is his characters self-test to know if he is dreaming or not. You also never see the children faces until the last 30 seconds of the movie. This musical cues are also the Edith Plaif song, slowed down. Nolan is trying to tell you something very important here but he doesn't want to show you - he wants you to realize it, or at least think about it.

Cheers

2MuchMark 03-20-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 20287208)
See I disagree, Christopher Nolan is an outstanding talent. Instead of praising a mediocre film I think fans should be critical if it's warranted and in the case of this film I feel it is.
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See I disagree, the outstanding films cannot be picked apart easily because they are of the highest quality. Perhaps I am being too harsh but it's only because I expected better from Nolan

Ok, I see your point. I had problems with it too (I hated the robot for one), I still love the movie. I plan to buy it on Blu ray when released.

Rochard 03-20-2015 10:11 AM

I saw this last weekend. It was long, but I thought it was good. The end was a little strange.

Wendy-Etology 03-20-2015 10:15 AM

everyone kept saying it was a great movie. i havent seen it something about space movies makes me want to yawn

2MuchMark 03-20-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20423660)
Watched this the other day on Blu Ray.

Sucked.

Nolan can't direct a decent movie to save his life. He is officially the most overrated director on the planet.

The film was scientifically implausible to such an extent that I could not suspend disbelief and enjoy the film at face value. Pseudo- philosophical use of feelings with respect to the multi-dimensional time-space is simply ridiculous. The plot made no sense and never explained anything. I love how the protagonist is asked to pilot a spacecraft on a billion dollar intergalactic mission (during a time of world wide famine, no less) the very next day! Forget a physical or psychological or refreshing your memory, just show up tomorrow man!

I could go on but what's the point. Typical Hollywood tripe with cringe-worthy lines, like a top scientist saying "Love is the one thing that we?re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space." Ugh.

For the most part, I tend to agree with you. I would have loved to see Coop go to the REAL Nasa in Florida, spend a year training while the story explains more about space travel and time dilation, etc. I would have loved the build up to the launch while more is revealed about the state of the planet and the shit it is turning into, etc. Sometimes things are best left to the imagination, but other times the details in extended stories really flesh things out for me.

This is why I'm really hoping for an extended directors cut. If they released a 4 hour version, I would definitely watch it.

The "Love" part of the movie is a bit of a stretch for me, but not that much.

2MuchMark 03-20-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20423743)
Can someone explain why Mat Damon (A+ lister?) is being underpromoted in this movie? I mean I did not even know he was in the movie. I opened Interstellar (2014) - IMDb and he is not even there (in the firstly visible results)!

How is that possible, why not to monetize on him? I mean at least put him in visible IMDB credits...

Serious question....

His performance and character were kept secret by request and agreement between him and Nolan. I don't really know why. His character is good and there is a major reveal that involves him but it could have been played by just about any other actor IMHO.

2MuchMark 03-20-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20423749)
Anyone here watch Event Horizon with Sam Neil and Laurence Fishburne?

The part where a scientist explains to Cooper how a wormhole works is lifted (copied) directly from that film. I mean, it's exactly the same, with the x's, the line, the folding of the paper and the pencil piercing it.

Also, does anyone else find it extremely ridiculous that this scientist is explaining to the pilot of the mission what a wormhole is only minutes before he has to go through it. LOL.

Yes it was, and yes I do. This is done so that the audience knows what is going on, but yes I hated the way it was done in Interstellar. Coop and everyone else on board should know this already. This scene would have been much better if Coop would have given this demo to his daughter Murph instead. A reply of "Duh, Dad, I'm not stupid ya know!" would have been a nice touch.

CaptainHowdy 03-20-2015 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20423671)
It's not.

If I was someone that is actually going to travel through a wormhole or into a black hole of course I'd be much more demanding in terms of scientific rigurosity ...

Bladewire 03-20-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20423749)
The part where a scientist explains to Cooper how a wormhole works is lifted (copied) directly from that film. I mean, it's exactly the same, with the x's, the line, the folding of the paper and the pencil piercing it.

That's because the laws of physics don't change.

"The method of space travel in this film was based on physicist Kip Thorne's works, which were also the basis for the method of space travel in Carl Sagan's novel "Contact", and the resulting film adaptation, Contact (1997). Matthew McConaughey stars in both films." IMDB

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20423861)
Yes it was, and yes I do. This is done so that the audience knows what is going on, but yes I hated the way it was done in Interstellar. Coop and everyone else on board should know this already. This scene would have been much better if Coop would have given this demo to his daughter Murph instead. A reply of "Duh, Dad, I'm not stupid ya know!" would have been a nice touch.

There was a lot of that explaining shit to the audience, usually in a totally out of context way. Too much shit in this movie to enjoy it. I also thought the dialogue and acting were horrible.

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20423952)
That's because the laws of physics don't change.

"The method of space travel in this film was based on physicist Kip Thorne's works, which were also the basis for the method of space travel in Carl Sagan's novel "Contact", and the resulting film adaptation, Contact (1997). Matthew McConaughey stars in both films." IMDB

It was a shot for shot copy of Event Horizon.

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 11:42 AM

Let's go populate a planet orbiting near a black hole... AWESOME IDEA!

J. Falcon 03-20-2015 11:52 AM

Something tells me Kip Thorne was overruled on a lot of science stuff on this film.


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