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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20295948)

He is in prison for being an accessory to murder. The killers were influenced by Tex Watson, not Manson. It's generally accepted that Manson knew of the plans, but he allegedly told those involved that it was their business and he distanced himself from it instead of trying to stop it.

My feeling is that Manson was/is a creative genius type surrounded by the wrong people. Watson was a violent loose cannon who by coincidence was attracted to Manson's artistic philosophy and in turn influenced some low IQ female groupies of Manson's to help him out.

Manson for his part has served his time by now and should be paroled. That won't happen though. Pop culture has built him up over 40 years to be the face of evil.

the fact that manson tied up the libianca's the following night after finding out what happened the previous night seemed to suggest he knew they would be killed.

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Originally Posted by HarleyMorgan (Post 20295176)

Geez I don't like that he had people killed! Have you ever seen his YouTube video's? Some are funny and his music is neat and he never killed anyone

read his book helter skelter

His book? It was written by the prosecutor that put him in prison. You need to start wearing a helmet for your own safety. Had you read the book, you'd know full well that he planned and orchestrated the murders as part of his plan to start a race war.

But yeah... his youtube videos are "neat". Murdering pregnant women is cool.

Idiot.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20296324)

i don't buy that he planned the murders to start a race war. i think manson would go on about such things when they were getting high and then it was used as a motive by bugliosi. at the core of it, the initial killings were about an unsettled drug debt by watson. watson supposedly asking manson what to do about the situation, manson telling watson to be a man and take care of his business but leave him out of it. manson knew watson was going to kill people and did nothing to stop if, if anything he encouraged it but i don't think he was the 'mastermind' behind it all. the second night of killings was again watson, who knew rosemary labianca's daughter from another marriage (who was also involved with satan slaves motorcycle gang) and had some kind of idea that they had all kinds of money stashed at the house. who really know if any of that is true but i don't buy into the fanatical ideas that were laid out in his trial. manson wasn't even allowed to speak at the trial out of fear he would use mind control techniques on the jury. stuff like that would never fly today.