Manson has always maintained that he was a musician with groupie friends that acted on their own. The stories about the murders are similar to what would later go on in the hip hop music industry culture. We just don't see modern artists being arrested for the actions of their crew.
If you shift Manson's life forward 30 years and make him a "fringe conspiracy" webmaster instead of a central figure of a musical social circle during the 1960's, he doesn't go to prison. He was essencially an Alex Jones type character long before there was an internet. 1971 didn't know how to process that, so they labeled him as being nuts and a cult leader.
Was he really? We may never know for sure.
considering Manson has a swastika on his forehead and you are GFYs resident holocaust denier I can certainly see how you would defend him
Matt 26z
11-19-2014 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDalton
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considering Manson has a swastika on his forehead and you are GFYs resident holocaust denier I can certainly see how you would defend him
His swastika started out as an "X" that was symbolic of him being eliminated from society. He later changed it. The reasoning does not appear to have anything to do with him being inspired by Nazi Germany principals (which if you watch his numerous interviews you will never hear any such thing), but instead branding himself what he deemed society has made him out to be, the anti-hero, using a taboo symbol of evil.
Geez I don't like that he had people killed! Have you ever seen his YouTube video's? Some are funny and his music is neat and he never killed anyone
read his book helter skelter
Matyko
11-19-2014 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HarleyMorgan
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Geez I don't like that he had people killed! Have you ever seen his YouTube video's? Some are funny and his music is neat and he never killed anyone
read his book helter skelter
His book is not on my list, sorry, won't ever read this douchebag's crap 'cos I won't support him and his cause. He is in jail for a reason 'he never killed anyone' is a fucking lie. Literally he never killed no one, but maybe neither hitler/stalin killed anyone literally but they are still war criminals responsible for the death of millions.
You are full retarded if you don't feel ashamed.
Anyway, you are still just a retarded whore, literally BEGGING FOR MONEY on your pathetic 'site'
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"However, as a life prisoner with no parole date, Manson is not entitled to family visits, a euphemism for conjugal visits.
So why would Burton marry him under those conditions?
There is more to life that fucking...dogs fuck and they have no minds...so unless you think of yourself as a mindless dog controlled by your genitals it is not that hard to think of an endless list of other reasons! Geez!
Matt 26z
11-20-2014 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Matyko
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He is in jail for a reason 'he never killed anyone' is a fucking lie. Literally he never killed no one, but maybe neither hitler/stalin killed anyone literally but they are still war criminals responsible for the death of millions.
He is in prison for being an accessory to murder. The killers were influenced by Tex Watson, not Manson. It's generally accepted that Manson knew of the plans, but he allegedly told those involved that it was their business and he distanced himself from it instead of trying to stop it.
My feeling is that Manson was/is a creative genius type surrounded by the wrong people. Watson was a violent loose cannon who by coincidence was attracted to Manson's artistic philosophy and in turn influenced some low IQ female groupies of Manson's to help him out.
Manson for his part has served his time by now and should be paroled. That won't happen though. Pop culture has built him up over 40 years to be the face of evil.
Matt 26z
11-20-2014 01:30 AM
Sharon Tate's mother says Manson not to blame...
JFK
11-20-2014 02:25 AM
Fitty helter skelter marriges :pimp
BlackCrayon
11-20-2014 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
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He is in prison for being an accessory to murder. The killers were influenced by Tex Watson, not Manson. It's generally accepted that Manson knew of the plans, but he allegedly told those involved that it was their business and he distanced himself from it instead of trying to stop it.
My feeling is that Manson was/is a creative genius type surrounded by the wrong people. Watson was a violent loose cannon who by coincidence was attracted to Manson's artistic philosophy and in turn influenced some low IQ female groupies of Manson's to help him out.
Manson for his part has served his time by now and should be paroled. That won't happen though. Pop culture has built him up over 40 years to be the face of evil.
the fact that manson tied up the libianca's the following night after finding out what happened the previous night seemed to suggest he knew they would be killed.
TheSquealer
11-20-2014 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HarleyMorgan
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Geez I don't like that he had people killed! Have you ever seen his YouTube video's? Some are funny and his music is neat and he never killed anyone
read his book helter skelter
His book? It was written by the prosecutor that put him in prison. You need to start wearing a helmet for your own safety. Had you read the book, you'd know full well that he planned and orchestrated the murders as part of his plan to start a race war.
But yeah... his youtube videos are "neat". Murdering pregnant women is cool.
Idiot.
BlackCrayon
11-20-2014 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer
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His book? It was written by the prosecutor that put him in prison. You need to start wearing a helmet for your own safety. Had you read the book, you'd know full well that he planned and orchestrated the murders as part of his plan to start a race war.
But yeah... his youtube videos are "neat". Murdering pregnant women is cool.
Idiot.
i don't buy that he planned the murders to start a race war. i think manson would go on about such things when they were getting high and then it was used as a motive by bugliosi. at the core of it, the initial killings were about an unsettled drug debt by watson. watson supposedly asking manson what to do about the situation, manson telling watson to be a man and take care of his business but leave him out of it. manson knew watson was going to kill people and did nothing to stop if, if anything he encouraged it but i don't think he was the 'mastermind' behind it all. the second night of killings was again watson, who knew rosemary labianca's daughter from another marriage (who was also involved with satan slaves motorcycle gang) and had some kind of idea that they had all kinds of money stashed at the house. who really know if any of that is true but i don't buy into the fanatical ideas that were laid out in his trial. manson wasn't even allowed to speak at the trial out of fear he would use mind control techniques on the jury. stuff like that would never fly today.
