Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20301173)

So your personal experience is the barometer for how all women act? So Cosby couldn't be guilty "because Vikingman encountered crazy chicks --- end of story". That's kind of a narcissistic viewpoint.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20301062)

I think most famous actors can get all the girls they want if they put the work in.

For example, for years Cosby was a regular at the Playboy mansion and on the Hollywood party circuit. I would not doubt he got plenty of ass when he wanted it. Even if you are an ugly actor you can leverage your fame to talk girls into sleeping with you. Cosby, however, in some cases seemed like he just wanted the easy way out which was to invite girls into his life and offer them some kind of help with their career then slip them a roofie and bang them. I would not be shocked if he invited them in order to bang them, then once he realized it likely wasn't going to happen on its own, he drugged them. I don't doubt that there were plenty of actresses or wannabe writers or whatever that slept with him thinking it was going to advance their career.

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20301130)

Oh god this is the exact programming women are getting in their universities and in the media. My point is that women lie. Some women are bat shit crazy. A therapist I have known for 2 years wanted to date me but but I did not. I still kept her as a "friend" and let her be part of my kid's life because this nutty therapist was kind of lonely since she never had kids. Well one day a few months back she did some business with me and when her check bounces she threatened me with a restraining order if I ever contacted her again to collect the money. She went from hugging me on one day and then 5 days later threatened me. BAT SHIT CRAZY

Also when I was 19 a girl at my brother's wedding completely fabricated a story that I had hit her in a hotel room. The truth was she had a medical condition from which prevented her from having sex and I was a perfect gentleman and even stayed and held her in my arms as we watched a movie. I get back home (in another state) and get a phone call that (I will refer to her as my abuser) my abuser is claiming I hit her. I go an entire year under a cloud of suspicion and of course my brother and his wife are completely embarrassed and then this same abuser decides to abuse other men with more completely fabricated allegations. At that point everyone knew what was going on and people stopped pointing fingers at me. But it took several men being falsely accused before anyone would consider this abuser was lying to get attention.

Some women lie to get attention and the miserable white knights enable them.

And yes you are right just because a woman dresses up like a slut does not give any man the right to rape her. But what happens is women have sex with a guy and then feel guilty or shameful about it the next day and then cry rape. Or the guy does not return her calls so she cries rape. And EVERY FUCKING TIME the enablers in society believe the woman over the man. "Why would she lie" is what everyone always says.

Men are sick of getting abused by women with their fabricated stories and restraining orders. How about some sympathy for us? Oh yeah you are not programmed for that compassion. What about all the children who are victimized by these abusive women? You are not programmed for that compassion.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20301062)

I think most famous actors can get all the girls they want if they put the work in.

For example, for years Cosby was a regular at the Playboy mansion and on the Hollywood party circuit. I would not doubt he got plenty of ass when he wanted it. Even if you are an ugly actor you can leverage your fame to talk girls into sleeping with you. Cosby, however, in some cases seemed like he just wanted the easy way out which was to invite girls into his life and offer them some kind of help with their career then slip them a roofie and bang them. I would not be shocked if he invited them in order to bang them, then once he realized it likely wasn't going to happen on its own, he drugged them. I don't doubt that there were plenty of actresses or wannabe writers or whatever that slept with him thinking it was going to advance their career.

Originally Posted by Si (Post 20301363)

The thing that irks me about the whole affair is how he's being branded a rapist although he hasn't been convicted of anything.

EDIT: That's probably been said already, but worth repeating.

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20301299)

Correct me if I'm wrong but rapists rape more for the power and control and not for just the sex

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20301228)

I would have thought this. I read the accounts and he was pretty quick to use the roofie card in some cases. Why keep a stock of roofie just in case? Without the roofie he is just a sexually aggressive guy with lots of fame and power who was used to getting his way.

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20301164)

Cosby is famous and that is what makes this case different. Because he is so famous women will want to latch on so they get some attention. I am not saying he never technically raped any woman. Perhaps he has raped someone. However the flood of women that are coming forward is bullshit. I am just an average guy living an average lifestyle and even I have had women make false allegations against me. I cannot imagine what a celeb has to go through. Oh and by the way these women I was talking about in my own life never accused me of forcing myself on them. One said I hit her and the other one simply said she would get a restraining order on me if I ever asked her for the money she owed me. Big difference. LOL

But in the end I don't give a flying fuck about Cosby. Unless he stands up and says the types of things I am saying then fuck him because he is just another enabler.

Originally Posted by Si (Post 20301363)

The thing that irks me about the whole affair is how he's being branded a rapist although he hasn't been convicted of anything.

EDIT: That's probably been said already, but worth repeating.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20301885)

The reason so many are coming forward now is that there are safety in numbers. I used to date a woman that worked for a group that ran battered women's shelters. She explained to me that many women who are raped feel alone and assume they are the only ones that this has happened to. In this case not only do they feel along and like a victim, but the guy that did it is very famous, rich and powerful so they are afraid of coming forward for fear that he will destroy their lives. When others start to come forward they gain some confidence and see that they are not alone.

This is why we often see the same thing with pedophiles. When a few victims come forward then often many more come out of the woodwork because up until then they were either afraid or embarrassed to come forward alone.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20301207)

well, I'd respectfully say vikingman is emotionally overtaken by his own experience, when it comes to this specific bill cosby situation. He has stated "even I have had women make false allegations against me. I cannot imagine what a celeb has to go through"

Not exactly a neutral, unbiased opinion on this particular 'case'. The reasoning they must be false allegations? Because he has met some crazies. Most of the posts in this thread are a mish-mash of emotion-driven viewpoints, rather than specifically looking at a certain criteria, unemotionally.

Should women be able to dress slutty, get drunk as fuck, as and not be raped? of course.

should men be able to get shitfaced, without an unwanted female sucking his cock when he wakes up? of course, despite what most men (and women) might think.

do some women have a change of heart and/or regret, and falsely cri rape? of course.

Do most sexual abuse victims of both sexes bury that shit and never speak out about it? of course.

Do some victims finally feel empored to come forward once they see emotional/mental safety in numbers? of course.

Is Bill Cosby guilty? 2 days ago I had no real view, but there are far too many coming out now, with zero financial gain to be had, so I'm leaning towards yes, and probably some of the 'victims' have convinced themselves a crime took place when in reality they were consenters, with their 'reward' unrealised, hence the self-justification. <--- todays opinion. But do I really know? Nope, or nor does anyone outside of bill and the people who have come forward.

What I sure as shit won't do is just disregard either side's version, based on a completely emotion-fueled guess :2 cents:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20300332)

Ok can't think of any on Cheers, ever. lol

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20301885)

The reason so many are coming forward now is that there are safety in numbers. I used to date a woman that worked for a group that ran battered women's shelters. She explained to me that many women who are raped feel alone and assume they are the only ones that this has happened to. In this case not only do they feel along and like a victim, but the guy that did it is very famous, rich and powerful so they are afraid of coming forward for fear that he will destroy their lives. When others start to come forward they gain some confidence and see that they are not alone.

This is why we often see the same thing with pedophiles. When a few victims come forward then often many more come out of the woodwork because up until then they were either afraid or embarrassed to come forward alone.

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 20302541)

Seems the focus shifted from cosby now due to the Ferguson clusterfuck