Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20304914)

Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20305225)

Shenanigans by the asst. prosecutor in giving false law information to the grand jury is super scum baggery and totally expected.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305207)

Unbelievable.

Of course I only say unbelievable because that's the thing to say.
I believe every bit of it.

There was no mistake, that was done on purpose.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305236)

What false info did he give the grand jury?

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305236)

What false info did he give the grand jury?

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20305121)

man you are a fucking idiot :disgust there is no other option

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20305278)

She handed them a law from before 1985 that allowed police to shoot people who were trying to get away from them. One example of this was a guy who spit on a cop then ran away. He was shot while running and died. There were no charges.

That law was overturned by the supreme court in 1985 and yet somehow, just by random error / rogue employee chance, she accidentally handed the old law to the grand jury who had it for weeks before the so-called "correction" was issued. Shenanigans. Lets not pretend she was incompetent and retains her job. We all know it was intentional to mislead the jury. We KNOW it was. "We" meaning every human on the planet with more than 1/4th of a brain.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305237)

this is an assistant DA in bumfuck missouri, it was total incompetency. She researched the law, came across this statute and did not bother to research further.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305313)

Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?

When people this smart make mistakes this big it's because they think we are all fucking dumb.

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20305309)

Except as Dyna Mo pointed out above you:

"In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
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Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added)."

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305321)

And that's just perfect isn't it; because now every dumb fuck in the world believes it was a mistake.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305320)

you actually think attorneys are smart? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you do realize the bell curve applies to law grads and the fucking bar right? well, I will explain to you what that means- that means ~50% of everyone who grads law school and passes the bar are on the wrongside of that curve. That means the barely did not flunk.

You think some ferguson Missouri assistant DA is smart because she passed law school and the bar?

dude, schister lawyers see you from a mile away huh.
http://i.imgur.com/PFeOzYb.jpg

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305324)

you oughta be thanking your lucky fucking stars she blundered, this gives the DOJ even more fodder to open a case against wilson.

FTR, IMO this should have never gone to the grand jury it should have gone directly to trial.

Hopefully the DOJ will pick it up and make a case out of it.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305328)

Oh, so you freely admit that the people involved in the grand jury process were incompetent?

Well, we already know that.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305332)

I don't feel lucky that someone fucked up and someone else can fix it later, like maybe.

:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305328)

Oh, so you freely admit that the people involved in the grand jury process were incompetent?

Well, we already know that.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305343)

Yes, I freely admit that. In fact, I have serious issues with how they completely waxed past his eye witness testimony. He opens more questions than answers them but they did not even attempt to dig further by asking the hard questions, questions that certainly would have been asked him if he were standing trial.

on top of that, this prosecutorial misleading (unintentional or not) of the GJ. Even her attempt to clear the record was a blunder. she's over her head or something I don't know, nevertheless, I trust the DOJ will take it from here and Wilson will stand trial.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305352)

DOJ actually doesn't have to do anything to get Wilson to trial.
All that is needed is for a trial judge to agree to hear the case.

The grand jury is just one way to see if a trial should occur, it's not needed at all by a judge to start a trial.

His trial could start tomorrow if a judge wanted it to.

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 20305279)

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305313)

Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305361)

hear what case? there is no case. that's what a grand jury is supposed to do, look at the evidence and decide if there is a case, they decided no case, i.e., there is no case for any trail judge to agree to hear. the DOJ can open a separate case though and that is what needs to happen here.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305352)

His trial could start tomorrow if a judge wanted it to.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305375)

From what I read on this page, the grand jury might not indict but the trial can proceed anyway if a judge thinks the case is strong.

How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305375)

From what I read on this page, the grand jury might not indict but the trial can proceed anyway if a judge thinks the case is strong.

How Does a Grand Jury Work? - FindLaw

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305368)

I have to wonder if you personally know anyone that has gone to law school.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305380)

Ok, I see. But what you mean is the prosecutor, not a judge, could continue the prosecution of a case regardless of a grand jury outcome.

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20305389)

You are getting him confused

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305377)

I am sorry, do you have a link that supports that theory? Just for the record, a judge is not a prosecutor.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305394)

well, he is emotional right now. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305320)

You think some ferguson Missouri assistant DA is smart because she passed law school and the bar?

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305400)

Dude, I'm sipping bourbon and chilled out.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20305403)

You are so full of hate.

One would like to think that the Missouri assistant DA would be... One of the top attorneys in the state. Although that might not say much being as it's Missouri.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305380)

Ok, I see. But what you mean is the prosecutor, not a judge, could continue the prosecution of a case regardless of a grand jury outcome.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305409)

Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

Now that was dumb of me in this case.


:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305112)

context, not snippets.

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The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20305414)

The idea that violence does not work is laughable coming from the US government which has unleased more violence on the World and its own people than most others.

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305409)

Yeah, I fucked up and just assumed that a prosecutor would want the case to continue and ask a judge.

Now that was dumb of me in this case.


:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20305414)

Do you think people with power give it up without a struggle?