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NatalieK 01-27-2015 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 20370091)
studio66tv is now using vxsbill nice of them to inform us all the fuckers

you know people tell me to keep an eye on the eastern european people in this business but the most fuckers for cheating i have come across are the fucking brits
and there's my adult business, running for years, still providing good quality updates, still providing only one tier cascade to provide the affiliate with the appropriate sale :Oh crap

My partner's said for years, send traffic to gspotcash.net & send traffic to my site & i'll make you money :thumbsup

babeterminal 01-27-2015 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20372481)
and there's my adult business, running for years, still providing good quality updates, still providing only one tier cascade to provide the affiliate with the appropriate sale :Oh crap

My partner's said for years, send traffic to gspotcash.net & send traffic to my site & i'll make you money :thumbsup
you have one milf on 6 sites now your pushing vicky vettes network that has fucking leaks all over those porn star sites

invest in some of those latinas over there i heard some do it for soup and bread...........

brassmonkey 01-27-2015 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20371317)
Good point as long as the prog is not misleading about the payout then it would not be fraudulent, correct. It is just shady on a program to make any changes without notices.

CCbill is legit, but desperate programs will do desperate things regardless.
ccbill needs to lock the payout deal. until the owner sends out notice of the change :2 cents::2 cents: ccbill should built that in the script

babeterminal 07-15-2015 09:17 AM
naughty4 cash. com


https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...e-spencer.html

NatalieK 07-15-2015 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 20372539)
you have one milf on 6 sites now your pushing vicky vettes network that has fucking leaks all over those porn star sites

invest in some of those latinas over there i heard some do it for soup and bread...........
My site has 6 niche tours of me, & 2 other websites included in 1 membership. Having the 6 niche tours allow affiliates to send their niche traffic to each separate tour.

At no point do I "push" vicky vettes network, it's the live cam with no outbound links I promote on my site. I am part of it & the daily shows are seen from inside my members area.

I do not understand your point to this post especially when the thread is about ccbill programs cheating affiliates, of which I never have.


My program gives a full 50% to our affiliates & do not leak to other networks :2 cents:

babeterminal 07-15-2015 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20524551)

I do not understand your point to this post especially when the thread is about ccbill programs cheating affiliates, of which I never have.

yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread

xXXtesy10 07-15-2015 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 20524599)
yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh that fucking guy is a clown

NatalieK 07-15-2015 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 20524599)
yes u do not understand pushing your program in a cheaters thread
If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I :disgust

DVTimes 07-15-2015 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20524674)
If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I :disgust
I presume he means you have big traffic leaks on your badly designed slow loading site.

Example: arsewithclass.com/livecam.php

You have lots of links to livejasmin.

DVTimes 07-15-2015 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20524674)
If you have something to say, say it, and please post proof because I do not like your allegation over my website!

I work very hard filming new content for my members every week, as you can see from my updates. I enjoy my work & enjoy chatting & performing on live cam.

Our program has always been an honest program, as is my partner & I :disgust
Also on arsewithclass.com/freetour.php#niches you have links to your twitter feed. And your promoting youkandy on your twitter feed.

Hope that helps you gary.

NatalieK 07-15-2015 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20524690)
Also on arsewithclass.com/freetour.php#niches you have links to your twitter feed. And your promoting youkandy on your twitter feed.

Hope that helps you gary.
My name is Natalie, I think you've already had a previous warning from Sly regarding this.

Now, I think you'll find all female models have twitter feeds from their twitter accounts. This is a leak, I agree.. Although, also giving an affiliates traffic more reason to purchase my membership as you can see how many movies & what kinds from the links.

There fore more of a reason to join my content packed, HD, streaming & unlimited downloadable membership site :2 cents:

I'll have to take a look at the livecam page, removing the links to other cam sites :thumbsup

AmeliaG 07-15-2015 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 20332648)
Some programs just change subaccounts .... most elegant way of shaving. No need to risk not being paid by Zombaio.
If the program has grouping turned on, the affiliate gets credit no matter what subaccount they send to. That is how all CCBill programs with multiple sites should be set up.

ErectMedia 07-15-2015 10:31 PM
Option #1 Run your shit legit, good affiliates, good relationships, good word of mouth, long term relationships pending ya keep shit updated

Option #2 Play sneaky and only a matter of time before it's spoted by someone especially someone OCD like myself that analyzes everything, lose affiiates, bad word of mouth :2 cents:

DVTimes 07-16-2015 05:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 20525071)
Option #1 Run your shit legit, good affiliates, good relationships, good word of mouth, long term relationships pending ya keep shit updated

Option #2 Play sneaky and only a matter of time before it's spoted by someone especially someone OCD like myself that analyzes everything, lose affiiates, bad word of mouth :2 cents:
yes

just seems short term to cheat

babeterminal 10-28-2016 04:55 PM
teal conrad website has moved to stickydollars

wehateporn 12-06-2016 02:37 AM
I imagine that most affiliates check how much they are making from a program, if it's good they increase the traffic, if not they either reduce the traffic or kill it off. If this is the case then sponsor cheating is a self-destructive move.

camfrog 12-06-2016 04:40 AM
This is the first years I've stopped doing promo for any ccbill programs. I got to the point that I owed ccbill money due to chargebacks & voided sales.

Paul&John 12-06-2016 05:31 AM
yeah ccbill sales are uber shitty lately

babeterminal 12-22-2016 09:01 AM
dreamnet cash now called radbucks changed ccbill accounts, all sites on clicking join go to some shit portal which leaks like a fucking sieve and also has wait for it........ vna army cams all over it

what a fucking cunt

bubo_bubo 01-10-2017 05:27 AM
Legglamour.com Affiliate Program (931994-0007)
Payout Percent: 0.00%
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

HowlingWulf 01-10-2017 10:17 AM
Note some programs switched from CCBill to another payment system like NATS, so drop their CCBill payout percent to 'nudge' affiliates to use the new links.

babeterminal 05-10-2017 09:18 PM
not been posting every single site i come across that cheats but this just takes the biscuit Ambya on clicking the join link it redirects to flirt 4free

RyuLion 05-10-2017 11:18 PM
Worth another bump.....

newB 08-18-2017 10:27 AM
Kick Ass Pays (904313-0000)
 
Payout Percent: 0.00%
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

nikki99 08-20-2017 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rabbit (Post 20370684)
Camilly cash: set to 1%
All You Can Feet: set to 5$ pps
TTN cash: 1%
Nude Beauties: set to 5%
:eek2:eek2:eek2

Tjeezers 08-21-2017 07:16 AM
This is insane, how could I have missed this one. This thread needs to stay up, affiliates are always being shot down by programs as soon they reached a break even point. We are disposable it seems.

femdomdestiny 08-21-2017 10:50 AM
How do you treat sites that introduce own clips4sale stores?

NatalieK 08-21-2017 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21964349)
How do you treat sites that introduce own clips4sale stores?
I have my own clips store on my site. Itīs a modelcentro store, and if correct, affiliates earn their 50% off clips or sales :2 cents:

www.nataliek.xxx/store :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-21-2017 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21964789)
I have my own clips store on my site. Itīs a modelcentro store, and if correct, affiliates earn their 50% off clips or sales :2 cents:

www.nataliek.xxx/store :thumbsup
Great stuff :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-21-2017 05:58 PM
It would be easier to have a list of the good ones, there aren't many left

rayadp05 08-22-2017 05:18 AM
Damn. That's shady as fuck. I would never even think about doing that to my affiliates. Programs like that don't typically stay around for long though. That's why I have had my program and paysite for almost 13 years now, along with affiliate conversions coming in throughout the morning, afternoon and evening times ...every day.

Don't fuck your affiliates!

nyllover 08-22-2017 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20370702)
Be careful... cascading is not designed for catching affiliate-id's when a program uses two or more billers. The fact that programs with 2 or more billing options use cascading says nothing.... Cascading is only for a rejected processing at biller A... then send customer through "denial cascade-link" to secondary biller.... then it works.... But... if there is no denial at Biller A there is no cascade-link= no credit for affiliate.

So... if you send visitor via a ccbill promo-tool to site and there visitor will get the ... let's say... verotel join form... you can have all cascading you want... but affiliate will not be credited because there was no denial prior to the sign up....

Program that uses 2 or more billers must be sure that they serve ccbill-join form when visitor comes from ccbill-tour... and serve for example Epoch-join form when visitor comes via epoch-codes..... Or... the program must use a third party software like nats or sliiing or whatever.... to catch the affiliate-codes when using more then one biller...
It depends on how the cascade is implemented. To be sure, just take a look at where your browser goes immediately after clicking the join button. If cascading is implemented right, you will briefly see a CCBIll domain url, then redirected to the other biller (verotel, epoch, whatever).
If this is the case, sale will be credited to the affiliate.

wehateporn 08-22-2017 06:16 AM
I sent a test sale through one the other day, it was meant to be a NATS that still sends credits to CCBill, the sale didn't come through to my CCBill affiliate account

Quote:
Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20370702)
Be careful... cascading is not designed for catching affiliate-id's when a program uses two or more billers. The fact that programs with 2 or more billing options use cascading says nothing.... Cascading is only for a rejected processing at biller A... then send customer through "denial cascade-link" to secondary biller.... then it works.... But... if there is no denial at Biller A there is no cascade-link= no credit for affiliate.

So... if you send visitor via a ccbill promo-tool to site and there visitor will get the ... let's say... verotel join form... you can have all cascading you want... but affiliate will not be credited because there was no denial prior to the sign up....

Program that uses 2 or more billers must be sure that they serve ccbill-join form when visitor comes from ccbill-tour... and serve for example Epoch-join form when visitor comes via epoch-codes..... Or... the program must use a third party software like nats or sliiing or whatever.... to catch the affiliate-codes when using more then one biller...

babeterminal 08-27-2017 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21965591)
I sent a test sale through one the other day, it was meant to be a NATS that still sends credits to CCBill, the sale didn't come through to my CCBill affiliate account
did it register in nats?

wehateporn 08-27-2017 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 21972981)
did it register in nats?
They've got a new NATS program, but it is still meant to credit CCBill affiliates. After the sale didn't go through to CCBill I signed up with NATS instead and redirected everything to it :2 cents:

faxxaff 08-27-2017 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20525061)
If the program has grouping turned on, the affiliate gets credit no matter what subaccount they send to. That is how all CCBill programs with multiple sites should be set up.
It's up to the program how they want to run their shop. I have caught a few programs who pushed rebills into other sub accounts. There is a way to tell this by looking at active members in stats. If you have 10 members a month and just 2 of them make money, then 8 of them are diverted to sub accounts. I complained with CCBill and they said it is up to the customer to do that. They can't pay out since the money is just not there anymore, technically.

Now: Some of the programs I caught paid me in another way in order to avoid being exposed here and there ... I guess they keep on doing it with other affiliates. Observe your stats and look out for cheaters.

babeterminal 09-27-2017 06:27 AM
footfactory of edfoxcash now using segpay billing

babeterminal 09-27-2017 06:28 AM
strange how AmeliaG of spookycash posts in a thread like this when all her websites now have epoch leaks

BigFurry 09-27-2017 07:30 AM
Just saw that Wank It Now sites also have Epoch leaks :(

rogueteens 09-27-2017 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by camfrog (Post 21358540)
This is the first years I've stopped doing promo for any ccbill programs. I got to the point that I owed ccbill money due to chargebacks & voided sales.
I'm that way with ccbill too. I owe them money too after the few remaining rebillers I had all chargedback in the same month.


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