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nikki99 09-27-2017 08:12 AM

bump for an interesting thread

wehateporn 09-27-2017 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22016103)
Just saw that Wank It Now sites also have Epoch leaks :(

Yep, spotted that some months ago, such a shame as those sites would be worth promoting :2 cents:

wehateporn 09-27-2017 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22016023)
strange how AmeliaG of spookycash posts in a thread like this when all her websites now have epoch leaks

Just checked, you're right, at least she still guides people to the CCBill, not quite as bad as the side by side ones, but still a sales leak for affiliates

newB 09-27-2017 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22016017)
footfactory of edfoxcash now using segpay billing

Ad tool links are all broken, too. Looks like they're done.


New one:
Sexy Fortune (945155-0000)
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Program tour redirects to zBUCKz.

babeterminal 09-27-2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22016293)
Ad tool links are all broken, too. Looks like they're done.


New one:
Sexy Fortune (945155-0000)
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Program tour redirects to zBUCKz.

thanks looks like they moved both sites into zbuckz

newB 09-30-2017 10:36 AM

HunterUpskirts - 50/50 PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM (947962-0000)

Appear to have closed the affiliate side, and now using SegPay to process joins.

EonBlue 09-30-2017 10:42 AM

Does an Epoch payment page for a CCBill program mean no credit? Or is it still credited through CCBill as part of a cascade or whatever? I am not too familiar with the payment processing setup.

I ask because I see a particular CCBill program going to an Epoch join page but I do see my CCBill id as part of the query string for the Epoch page.




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BigFurry 09-30-2017 12:59 PM

Yes both setup are possible.

1. If it's a direct link to Epoch, without a CCBILL redirect, it's a leak. The affiliate won't get credited.

2. If the Epoch/PayPal button points to a CCBILL URL, which redirects and then ends up on the Epoch payment page, it's likely correct and credits sales.

EonBlue 09-30-2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22019929)
Yes both setup are possible.

1. If it's a direct link to Epoch, without a CCBILL redirect, it's a leak. The affiliate won't get credited.

2. If the Epoch/PayPal button points to a CCBILL URL, which redirects and then ends up on the Epoch payment page, it's likely correct and credits sales.

Ok good. Looks like it's the second one. Thanks.



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Kafka 09-30-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22016103)
Just saw that Wank It Now sites also have Epoch leaks :(

Even with CcBill as far as i know you wont get credited. There is no cookie set with your aff id or otherwise.

bigalownz 10-01-2017 03:48 AM

some porn webmasters who use ccbill are so dodgy

most sign ups after ccbill fees are

80% to them
10% to model
10$ to affiliates

wehateporn 10-01-2017 04:11 AM

Thanks for the heads up :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22019833)
HunterUpskirts - 50/50 PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM (947962-0000)

Appear to have closed the affiliate side, and now using SegPay to process joins.


AndyA 10-03-2017 05:00 AM

make sure they use NATS

babeterminal 05-10-2018 05:53 PM

Jeff Curry ccbill acc 931706 northwestbeauties dot com
suspended my account for making sales comes up with this

Sure. As far as I know, you are still getting credit for the sales, according to what I see when I log into my account.

Here is what happened from my perspective.

The customer who made the purchases is a regular customer. Once every week or two, he will make several purchases.

Evidently, he had done some search engine searching and picked up your cookie from a gallery. Maybe that day, maybe a day or two before.

When I saw the purchases coming in and the affiliate bonuses, I did not recognize you. I don’t know if we had ever corresponded and I could not recall you ever sending me a new customer.

I have had problems in the past with customers or associates signing up as affiliates to get themselves discounts on my videos. Since I didn’t recognize you, I was not sure if this was the case or not.

I contacted CC Bill and asked about you. They would not vouch for you, so I suspended your account.

I saw that sales kept coming in and also affiliate bonuses, which should not have happened.

I contacted CC Bill again and said I wanted those fees refunded to me. Something was wrong with their system.

So, that is what it looked like from my end.

Technically, you are entitled to the fees and you are welcome to lobby CC Bill for them. However, the intent of the affiliate program is for affiliates to find new customers and direct them to the content owner’s websites. You have never done that for me. You did post a couple of galleries, so you deserve some affiliate fees for that, but I think you will agree that getting 16 fees for galleries that you had probably forgotten about, may be a bit much.

what was that i am confussed
well fuck a duck I HAVE NO WORDS

mikeet 05-10-2018 06:13 PM

Welcome to 3 yrs ago?

edit* 4 years ago..........

babeterminal 05-10-2018 06:35 PM

wow this guy is unreal

I don’t see any reason to reinstate you. You have not done any promotional work for me for years.

Your affiliate status won’t affect whether or not you get the fees from earlier this week. You were an active affiliate for some of them and not for some of them.

If you have done anything for me in the past couple of years, please let me know. I don’t need to send out updates. I post 3 or 4 new videos each week and any affiliate is welcome to use them to promote my stuff. I understand that the old-school affiliate model was for the content owner to produce a bunch of galleries and send them out and then hope to get sales from them. That business model is pretty much dead. The newer affiliates are producing their own promotional content, based on what the content owner is posting.

You might want to take a look at my website. I have over 2000 different videos for sale. Each one can be promoted. This is why I have customers come and drop 100 to 200 dollars at a time.

If you were actively promoting my websites, I would have no problem with letting you have 16 fees for a regular customer.

Bladewire 05-10-2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22267771)
wow this guy is unreal

I don’t see any reason to reinstate you. You have not done any promotional work for me for years.

Your affiliate status won’t affect whether or not you get the fees from earlier this week. You were an active affiliate for some of them and not for some of them.

If you have done anything for me in the past couple of years, please let me know. I don’t need to send out updates. I post 3 or 4 new videos each week and any affiliate is welcome to use them to promote my stuff. I understand that the old-school affiliate model was for the content owner to produce a bunch of galleries and send them out and then hope to get sales from them. That business model is pretty much dead. The newer affiliates are producing their own promotional content, based on what the content owner is posting.

You might want to take a look at my website. I have over 2000 different videos for sale. Each one can be promoted. This is why I have customers come and drop 100 to 200 dollars at a time.

If you were actively promoting my websites, I would have no problem with letting you have 16 fees for a regular customer.

Glad he banned you.

On the other board you admitted to having a couple nice here. It's tacky. You cheat with fake ID'd here I'm sure you cheat as an affiliate as well.

babeterminal 05-11-2018 03:13 AM

bladewire is the people behind media revenue, they are here to destroy whats left of the industry

Sexy Bear 05-11-2018 06:43 AM

thats good to have in mind thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:thumbsup

NatalieK 05-11-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21964789)
I have my own clips store on my site. It´s a modelcentro store, and if correct, affiliates earn their 50% off clips or sales :2 cents:

NatalieK content store :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21964933)
Great stuff :thumbsup

thank you WHP :thumbsup

babeterminal 05-12-2018 01:45 AM

Gary are you going bingo?

NickBaer 05-13-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20313646)
A program cheating CCbill affiliates by billing with Zombaio instead, is not very smart :)

The URL in your Sig is bad
https://www.tubecamgirl.com/affregister.php
Ooops!
Something went wrong.

Denny 05-13-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22268990)
The URL in your Sig is bad
https://www.tubecamgirl.com/affregister.php
Ooops!
Something went wrong.

I don't think he owns that site anymore.

j3rkules 05-13-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny (Post 22269049)
I don't think he owns that site anymore.

I think too. It is an old thread and I am pretty sure that he (adultmobile) sold it to Payserve.

BigFurry 05-13-2018 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22267759)
Jeff Curry ccbill acc 931706 northwestbeauties dot com
suspended my account for making sales comes up with this

...

Technically, you are entitled to the fees and you are welcome to lobby CC Bill for them. However, the intent of the affiliate program is for affiliates to find new customers and direct them to the content owner’s websites. You have never done that for me. You did post a couple of galleries, so you deserve some affiliate fees for that, but I think you will agree that getting 16 fees for galleries that you had probably forgotten about, may be a bit much.

This is crazy. If he didn't want to pay for rebills, he should have set up a PPS program. Thanks for the heads up, won't promote them.

babeterminal 05-14-2018 04:37 PM

these sales came about with Jeff Curry ccbill acc 931706 northwestbeauties dot com because i revamped an old gallery 2 months ago and submitted it to THEHUN,

This shows that the so call old system of sending out fhg updates regularly DOES WORK,

REGULAR UPDATES OF Promotional TOOLS and fhgs will always work, NO UPDATES NO NEW SALES

and his clips store site is the first i have ever seen without a cart feature

babeterminal 05-14-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 22269062)
This is crazy. If he didn't want to pay for rebills, he should have set up a PPS program. Thanks for the heads up, won't promote them.

sorry i didnt make it clear there was 16 sales in one day over a few hours, i get email from ccbill account suspended, so i contacted webmaster to tell him ccbill might think its card banging, as he has no cart feature

he had already started an investigation with them and was trying to get the affiliate share back,

ccbill contacted me after the investigation i will get the 16 sales but i was more pissed off about the work i had already done years ago, and the recent work, and the future work off removing his content, all in all i get 50/60 bucks

he has turned of his affiliate program and is just one of those kids who doesn't like to share

Bladewire 05-14-2018 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22269801)
sorry i didnt make it clear there was 16 sales in one day over a few hours, i get email from ccbill account suspended, so i contacted webmaster to tell him ccbill might think its card banging, as he has no cart feature

he had already started an investigation with them and was trying to get the affiliate share back,

ccbill contacted me after the investigation i will get the 16 sales but i was more pissed off about the work i had already done years ago, and the recent work, and the future work off removing his content, all in all i get 50/60 bucks

he has turned of his affiliate program and is just one of those kids who doesn't like to share

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal (Post 22269786)
these sales came about with Jeff Curry ccbill acc 931706 northwestbeauties dot com because i revamped an old gallery 2 months ago and submitted it to THEHUN,

This shows that the so call old system of sending out fhg updates regularly DOES WORK,

REGULAR UPDATES OF Promotional TOOLS and fhgs will always work, NO UPDATES NO NEW SALES

and his clips store site is the first i have ever seen without a cart feature



You just contradicted yourself moron.

You said it was card banging, which does NOT prove that submitting to FHG's is still good for sales :1orglaugh

babeterminal 10-06-2018 05:25 PM

what do you make of this one no reply since 27th sep 2018
 
ANYONE PROMOTING THIS ONE

Gmail >
Teddy's Cash™ Affiliate Network
7 messages
TeddysOfficialAdmin <[email protected]> 25 September 2018 at 19:39
To:
We have approved your application to join Teddy’s Cash™ Affiliate Network. You can login to your Teddy’s Cash™ Dashboard, where you can find banners to place on your site as well as viewing your earnings.

Let us know if you have any questions.

TeddysOfficialAdmin
[email protected]



terminal 26 September 2018 at 15:26
To: [email protected]
hello

send me all your fhg's
do you have zip sets[non nude if possible] and hosted mp4 files ?
i can not see how to set up payment settings, also how is this tracked by ccbill or what is the tracking method you are using?

regards

albagals dot com
albagalstube dot com
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TeddysOfficialAdmin <[email protected]> 26 September 2018 at 15:37
To:
We are tracking the sales with a cookie that is passed on to CCBill as a token and then returned to us upon a successful subscription. Your Teddy’s Cash Dashboard will track all of your sales as well as let you know when you can request a payout (once account earnings reach $50). When you request a payout we ask you how you would like your earnings sent to you (Paxum, PayPal, check, etc).

The banners you might have seen to use are the only ones we have at the moment, however you can always create your own if you’d like and simply use your affiliate link as the redirect link.

Let me know if there’s anything else we can help with.

TeddysOfficialAdmin
[email protected]


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26 September 2018 at 16:10
To: [email protected]
i prefer to use this linking Home | Teddys Girls Premium Snapchat Services
[Quoted text hidden]
TeddysOfficialAdmin <[email protected]> 26 September 2018 at 16:15
To:
Is that directly from CCBill?

TeddysOfficialAdmin
[email protected]


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TeddysOfficialAdmin <[email protected]> 26 September 2018 at 16:24
To:
That link will certainly direct someone to our site, however the issue is that you will not get credit for a sale due to the way we have our Models setup, which are as Affiliates with CCBill, and CCBill will not allow 2 separate affiliate codes to come thru. That is why we have created our own referral network and provide you with a direct link with your own unique token.

I just tested your link and it works as I describe above, where you would not get credit for the sale.

TeddysOfficialAdmin
[email protected]



27 September 2018 at 06:53
To: [email protected]
you have your monthly membership on sub acc-0001 and your lifetime on sub acc-0002, do you have grouping enabled on YOUR ccbill account?

babeterminal 10-08-2018 04:54 AM

todays response/

CCbill is unable to separate out our Models who we pay as Affiliates with referring Affiliates, so you’d have to use our Affiliate link that we generated for you.

babeterminal 10-08-2018 05:05 AM

this just gets better

CCBill does not track sales for our Teddy’s Cash Affiliate program, however we do pass a token to CCBill that is then returned in the web hook sent back to us on any Affiliate sale. We would pay you directly once your account earnings reach $50 and you request to be paid.

is this not the current epoch model?

newB 02-15-2019 11:27 AM

True Beauty Cash (935262-0000)
Payout Percent: 0.00%
Payout Flat-Rate: 0.00
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

Cookie Dough (946646-0000)
Discontinued paysite saying there wouldn't be porn anymore. Porn is back and they are processing joins, but it does not appear that ccbill credentials are being passed to the epoch join page.

BimboCash (946907-0000)
Moved site(s) over to CzechProfits (950692-0000)

babeterminal 02-15-2019 03:23 PM

thanks for update

newB 02-16-2019 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 22416537)
True Beauty Cash (935262-0000)

May have jumped the gun on that one. Follow up here.


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