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Holy moly, my dog possesses technology.

I don't disagree that the assumption that they are not here now could be the problem. We very well could already be colonized. But again, using Drake's equation, if it has happened once like that, then more than one microbe would have colonized more than 1 Earth-like planet just do to that huge #s. It doesn't make sense to me that life is easily replicated, due to the equation, but colonization only happens 1x with 1 planet. Not that it couldn't, the universe is a nutty place, anything goes.

But I'm not poo pooing the idea that they are here now, in fact, I think life here did come from something on an asteroid or comet, but I don't think that was planned, it was random. There's also some good math that shows life actually began around the time the universe did- 13 billion years ago, well before the Earth was formed. But again, random. Sartre was right! :1orglaugh

i saw and Aliens once on my TV :pimp

Well what I was getting at is given the numbers I'd assume life is fairly common, but expecting it to reach space travel and mass colonization as an end goal is unrealistic. There are so many variables and needs that would be required that even with intelligent life it's an extremely narrow window that would want or need to achieve that end goal.

Just look at Earth for example only 2 countries have put men in space on their own. The US & Russia. Of those two only one has set foot on another hunk of rock. Then look at the reason we did it in the first place.. Had it not been for the cold war, we likely wouldn't have had a reason to push so hard to send men into space and then the moon. We did it out of competition and with out the competition would we have?

Meaning it's not just the random chances of life happening and then becoming intelligent, but then it's even more random of a chance that that life would actually get the ability or have the want to go into space, much less the natural resources on their planet to make it happen.

Some of you need a good AAP.


(Alien Anal Probing)

we aren't alone in this univers...

It's simple; we exist therefore aliens.

I believe everything Giorgio says, so.....ALIENS!
Tho they are kinda Ancient.

That video says I might be an alien! OMG!! :upsidedow

I am sure that there is a life somewhere in the space, but space itself is so vast that I have doubts that human kind will ever find any form of foreign life... :)

Aliens created the pyramids. In Egypt

Good video

the universe is big enough for us to conclude that we are not alone.

There may actually be more types of life even on Earth, the study on phytoplankton in Lake Karachay had so good discoveries on that.

Also, the latest research on Enceladus and Europa put a shadow of doubt on the fact that to have life, the planet has to be in what we called "habitable" zone. The heat produced by tectonic movements while orbiting a far bigger neighbour (like in case of Saturn´s moon Enceladus or Jupiter´s Europa) may be already creating an environment friendly to alien microbes.

To assume we are alone in Universe as living creatures is unimaginable for me, considering the evolution and the size even of the reachable one, but I think the forms of life on other planets may differ so much, may not be willing to explore, or are just so different that, being far more developed, are perfectly "happy" living in a symbiose with their own environment and do not need to colonise others.

maybe there's mankind somewhere in the universe..who knows

They're future humans that left earth thousands of years from now. Since the universe is limitless in time and space, they will never be able to contact us. Science is fun.

Pyramids?

In Egypt?

Who knew?

Need to colonize? What about the glory, victories, the smell of the gunpowder at mornings (smell of napalm is just as fine)?

"More developed" is pretty much subjective view. Even if it means plainly surviving, living; how it is measured? Domination, population number? For example humans are not the most numerous specie on Earth. Is for example some plankton more developed? It has succeeded to be more numerous, more thriving than us.

The maths seems to be based on too few factors. I think looking at just one planet shows the problem, for example our planet had life for hundreds of thousands of year with the dinosaurs, it was a fluke that ape creatures with some intelligence took over, and so far for less than a million years.

In the space of 30 years, a second time in the life of the galaxy, we have put life on the planet at risk dozens of times.

Intelligence may be too dangerous for survival.

Aliens in GFY? Lol

That's and interesting point, it is subjective indeed, yet if we consider the development as constant improvement of achievements in terms of knowledge, based on logic, we may think of colonisation as a rational agreement where x parties see the benefits and a potential for survival in collaboration. The fights and power are based on very basic instincts and if we think of it, even if people do great things for these feelings of superiority and self-esteem, even if they use intelligence to fulfil their purpose, it is still a weakness in the situation if you can't simply convince the other that your solution is better.
Given creatures which are rational to the point of avoiding all emotions, technologically developed and with understanding of universe and its rules, why to attack such a tiny planet with such imperfect habitants?

Is there a hidden diplomacy in the Universe? Maybe they know that we are still not prepared? Who knows, but the greed for power is definitely not an ultimate state of mind.

Btw, there is an interesting theory which states that as everything is actually made from particles => it is computable => we may be a Sims game of our future ourselves. :upsidedow

If the alien brains are like we have in here Earth, there is no separate rational vs emotional brains. It just doesn't work that way. Pure rational thinking would be like computer with no programs, no goal, no tasks. If there has been such creatures, those will die soon in vain, and animals those seek reproduction and survival will thrive. We don't have free will with any pure sense and will never have.

But what comes to reasons to aliens to attack in here; all the same reasons why humans and other animals on Earth make wars, or don't make, are as good. Like, maybe we are just tasty? Why we "attack" against chickens, or potatoes?

plenty of insects do everything you just mentioned, except for the silly Sims game and the strictly emotional rationale for everything silliness. Ants are the prime example.