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dyna mo 12-22-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20334821)
I've read many of those classic books and while not a waste of time they are far from being essential - I get as much or more out of reading other types of writing as I do from novels/books. There's some intellectual snobbery involved. You can be brilliant and filled with insight without reading any of them.

People are becoming obsessed, it's the social Internet doing it, the bucket list mentality measuring a fulfilling life, keeping a scorecard of what you'd done, what you've eaten, where you've visited, what you own, how many followers on Instagram - all just a competition.

exfuckingactly.

not to mention, most people's bucket lists are nothing more than a travel/destination wish list.

Jel 12-22-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20334586)
How To Win Friends And Influence People

great book actually :thumbsup

Jel 12-22-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20334821)
People are becoming obsessed, it's the social Internet doing it, the bucket list mentality measuring a fulfilling life, keeping a scorecard of what you'd done, what you've eaten, where you've visited, what you own, how many followers on Instagram - all just a competition.

who cares if that's what someone else wants to do? I mean really, do you give the slightest fuck if some other person wants to get x followers on instagram, or makes a list of places they've visited, or does anything they want to do that doesn't directly impact your life?

Mutt 12-22-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20334837)
who cares if that's what someone else wants to do? I mean really, do you give the slightest fuck if some other person wants to get x followers on instagram, or makes a list of places they've visited, or does anything they want to do that doesn't directly impact your life?



My post was an observation and opinion of the times we live in, which is exactly what literature does. Nothing more.

Are you really this simple?

Jel 12-22-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20334844)
My post was an observation and opinion of the times we live in, which is exactly what literature does. Nothing more.

Are you really this simple?

I must be :thumbsup

SilentKnight 12-22-2014 09:31 PM

It's been ages since I did a lot of reading.

If memory serves, the last book I read cover to cover was Broca's Brain, Carl Sagan.

DAMNMAN 12-22-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20333968)
Read it. It's not very impressive and it's basically the rant of a very angry man.

Here take a gander at a someone that's a little more level headed and a lot less troll than Dawkins:
Rupert Sheldrake : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg

Seems level headed but has much faith in things that cannot be proven and are without evidence. Dawkins is a scientist through and through.
I can't do it, I can't buy into a bunch of esoteric non-sense without much evidence.
Scientific principles are not in question, Rupert only questions the scientific dogmas that abound.

AmeliaG 12-23-2014 12:00 AM

I've read twenty some odd off the first list and thirty some odd off the second. I read freaky fast and often, but I don't really see the selling ponts on most of those.

shoot twice 12-23-2014 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20335276)
Seems level headed but has much faith in things that cannot be proven and are without evidence. Dawkins is a scientist through and through.
I can't do it, I can't buy into a bunch of esoteric non-sense without much evidence.
Scientific principles are not in question, Rupert only questions the scientific dogmas that abound.

Rupert Sheldrake is a scientist. He has a PhD in biochemistry and the body of his work was in cell biology. IN 2012 he was called "one of the brightest Darwinians of his generation."

There's nothing esoteric at all in his research. What he's researching is both consciousness and also how differentiation is established in order to solve the problem of why things take the shapes that they do.

He uses science to analyze science and is very unemotional about it. Where as Dawkins tends to be a long drawn emotion based rant for his ideas and against anyone that questions them.

If you read Sheldrake, he's never denied or disputed the Theory of Evolution. ** BUT ** He's also has never supported it. Instead he quickly points out that Theory of Evolution remains just a theory. And even if it were proven to be factual it in of it self would neither prove nor disprove the existance of a force refered to as God. Evolution would simply disprove claims made in the religious texts of certain religions.

Sheldrake is definately outside the orthodox of current scientific dogma. But so was Copernicus and many many others.

Caldo 12-23-2014 02:11 AM

100 books is fine with me :)

CPA-Rush 12-23-2014 02:31 AM

everybody books should dies before they read.

100 books should dies before everybody read

rogueteens 12-23-2014 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CPA-Rush (Post 20335365)
everybody books should dies before they read.

100 books should dies before everybody read

I agree 100% ... I think.

RazorSharpe 12-23-2014 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20334844)
My post was an observation and opinion of the times we live in, which is exactly what literature does. Nothing more.

Are you really this simple?

You're comparing your little rant to literature but take umbrage to people documenting their travels and food consumption? Surely using your logic this is travel journalism and food journalism respectively ...

I personally see nothing wrong with the social aspect of the internet that gets people reading. When I was at school, we had a "library period" a week where we were made to choose a book and check it out of the library. These days kids seem content to sit in and play video games.

Calling someone simple just because they have a different opinion to yours is ridiculous.

P.S.: Jel, if he starts calling me names can we setup a support group?

XXXtrailers 12-23-2014 05:32 AM

Nice list. Thanks!

EngineCash 12-24-2014 03:22 AM

Second list is really perfect... :) thanks for sharing... :)

slapass 12-24-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20334821)
I've read many of those classic books and while not a waste of time they are far from being essential - I get as much or more out of reading other types of writing as I do from novels/books. There's some intellectual snobbery involved. You can be brilliant and filled with insight without reading any of them.

People are becoming obsessed, it's the social Internet doing it, the bucket list mentality measuring a fulfilling life, keeping a scorecard of what you'd done, what you've eaten, where you've visited, what you own, how many followers on Instagram - all just a competition.

I think you are missing the point. It is more they don't want to miss something. For some it is the look at me aspect but for others it is the really cool experience that is readily attainable that they missed.

mineistaken 12-25-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20334205)
i would normally agree in most instances but not with reading. adults shouldn't require a list for reading... Part of the magic of reading is discovery, if you go off someone elses list you are just cheating yourself of that.

Well how else would you discover some book if not from some recommendation? I mean you would not blindly go and say - this book has a nice cover, maybe I should try reading it.
It does not necessary have to be a "list", but you get recommended or read about the book somewhere before buying. Or I do not know, maybe some people just buy blindly :)

mineistaken 12-25-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20334355)
there is not one single fucking life benefit resulting from reading those 100 books you SHOULD read.

my life is supposed to what, have more meaning, be better, what exactly is the reason I SHOULD read those 100 books before I die?


there's one reason for lists like that- to sell more shit.

:-)

Aside from the fact that these lists in OP are not quality - the purpose of such lists is that people who read many books might find some new ideas of what books they possibly pay attention to. Something similar to when you want to watch some movie and since you watched "all of them" you may go to some top 100 list to get ideas. Not that the lists TELLS you to watch it, you just go and fish for something new.

Focus 12-25-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20333498)
it took a movie for you to want to read good books by important people?

important people? Says who ?

Focus 12-25-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by loreen (Post 20333864)
You should make your own 100-book list before you die :)

:thumbsup


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