Sounds a little like when John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.

Still waiting for you to prove your intellectual and physical superiority...

I am shocked and stunned that none of the twitter replies BACK to those idiots were things like:
"He's that white dude that sang with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder back in the day..."

Re-read the thread...slowly...comprehend...and stay tuned.

Could it be possible these tweeters are brilliant satirists with a razor sharp sarcastic wit?

Probably not, if they listen to Kanye West.

Still waiting...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They likely couldn't spell satirist with a dictionary in one hand.

A few months on GFY will confirm that.

Pretty much.

:1orglaugh

I liked this post. Music industry today is in bad shape which is why there are more rap and solo artists being shoved down our throats. Doesn't mean it is all bad, just cheaper to produce. But it's great for both Paul and Kanye to collaborate and expose both extremely different audiences to each other.

That said, kids today scare the shit out of me! They better stay off my lawn.

Have you read the review? Imho, Lou Reed is mocking the record as only Lou could do, may he rest in peace since his acid wit is missed.

Kanye has never made interesting songs, just pop music that is about as temporal and everlasting as a turd in a toilet. Most of his biggest sellers are pretty much straight rip offs of pop songs that ring an emotional ding dong people easily salivate to. He sells a ton of records because tons of people like that sort of drivel the same way they like the billions of shitty burgers McDonalds has served. :2 cents:

Man, I'm cool with his and hers
But I'm 'bout that his and his
Let me eat that boy pussy
It taste good like M&M'S
I'm gonna bust that ass open
And send you back home to him
Then I kick that shit like Biz Markie
And say you just a friend


:)

david lynch and paul mcartney both think yeezus is a genius record. open your minds for fucks sake. it's obvious lou reed does as well. his other shit is corny but that album is dope.

anyobe who doesnt know paul mccartney doesnt know real music.

Most Kanye West fans would ask Stevie Who and Michael Who?

They think Old Skool is the late 90s.

Of course I've read the review. I read it when it was published a year and a half ago and I re-read just earlier tonight before posting it. He does mock certain elements of the album but he is also complimentary of other elements. It's a fair, honest, and unbiased review written by a rock legend and it's more positive than it is negative.

As far as album sales go, bear in mind that The Beatles have sold over 600 million albums, which is more than any other band or solo artist. As a solo artist, Paul McCartney has sold an additional 100 Million albums. Who purchased all of those albums? Even after accounting for the amount time it's been since they've been released, I find it hard to believe that all buyers have been highly sophisticated and knowledgeable music fans. All those young girls screaming for the Beatles when they first came to the states back in '64 were no different than the kids who buy the music of Kanye or others in this day and age.

Which of Kanye's songs are 'straight rip offs of pop songs'? The only ones I can think of that heavily sampled are Diamonds Are From Sierra Leone (sampled Diamonds Are Forever by Shirley Bassey) and Gold Digger (which samples from a Ray Charles song). There's two for you but you said that pretty much all of his songs are rip offs, so what are the others? And why is it wrong for an artist to re-present the original in a new way while infusing their own style? The Dead did that of plenty of times. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cover_versions)

Today, with the loss of the infrastructure that gave the music industry it's focus and power. we have fragmentation. Everyone has their own playlists. There is no longer a 'system' whereby new artists would get exposed to a mass audience. I am talking radio, MTV, The Tonight Show when there were only 3 networks and a few cable channels, Grammys and magazines and concerts....

While many of those things still exist today they exist as watered down versions. I saw recently how a newly released CD had made it to #1 on the Billboard charts...by selling 33,000 copies!! Back 20 years ago I would take 10x that amount to make it to #1 upon initial release. Now it takes just a few thousand copies. So how many does the #6 CD sell in a week? 20K? Unbelievable.

My point is that today fewer are being exposed to "what's good" but instead are left to discover "what's good" on their own, or through social media. It is truly pathetic, and heartbreakingly sad. Thank Yeezus we have literally thousands and thousands of awesome albums created way back when to listen to otherwise this new post-2000 life we are all living would suck major donkey balls.

or Fish Dicks.

I am glad you have found important stuff to bitch and fight over. Is this a webmasterforum or Jerry Springer?

Why should they know of Mccartney? it's not like the demographic of the two fangroups overlap.

Do you think people listening to mostly Classic music, know the names of the Metallica crew?

Same here.

Kanye can sing? :eek2 I thought the only reason rappers rap is because they can't sing for the life of them.

That article is pure shit, at best. Not arguing against its statements, but the only sources it cites are two Daily Mail pieces. Which is kinda like basing your arguments on pieces from The Onion.

Besides, only one of the two Daily Mail pieces actually discusses decreases in average IQ. If you read through it, it has a few contradicting statements as well. It references, in turn, to an article from the New Scientist, of which you can only read a paragraph, unless you pay for access. Even so, they still seem to have gotten it wrong:

Yet the New Scientist article they reference says this:

Not exactly the first time the Daily Mail fucks up. :)

Pretty much. The Beatles are arguably one of the most influential bands of all times. Kanye come, Kanye go, nobody will miss him and few will even remember him. He'll just be replaced by a new hot-as-shit-rapper-for-now.

Likewise. Never really got to like the Beatles, aside from a couple of songs. But the image and culture American rap artists promote is atrocious, at best.

That does depend a lot on the kind of music you listen to though. It also depends on how proactive you are in finding new music/artists in the genre you like.

I used to think just like you, but then I found some online radio stations playing my kind of music. I'm happy I did, because it's helped me discover tons of artists I would've never heard of otherwise. I would just've been stuck listening to my 20+ yo faves, bitching that music today is all shit.

It's not necessarily because it's cheaper to produce. The music industry, just like the movie industry, isn't afraid to spend if it predicts it can make a nice ROI. It's more because young people today are way more familiar with rap and the like, so it makes financial sense to churn out more of that, because it makes money.

Is this a rhetorical question? :1orglaugh

Reed compared it to daring to liking the smell of someone else's farts.

Lynch is another one that is notorious for saying how much he likes what he hates and his films are a testament to the sneer of false praise and inverted justice.

McCartney is pretty much about as real and sincere as the color of his hair these days.

I admit I need to hear the record myself to judge it firsthand, but based on those other opinions... let's just say I am not running out to buy those downloads, although I will concede that it unfair to judge it just on the previous body of work without having heard it so I will make an effort to hear it and keep an open mind and ear about it.

Same..

But seriously, that "make him famous", "give him a career", etc. stuff is quite hilarious. :)

You make reasonable counterpoints, but allow me to rebuttal...

Google Kanye cover tune rip offs. No more needs be said.

As for the Dead, while I love their takes on covers as much as I say any rapper/producer should be able to sample whatever they like to create their own artistic license of what came before, I don't judge them by those arrangements of standards as much as by the new songs they wrote that are singular and unique and part of a present, past, and future since they are unique. Regardless though, I am not against borrowing, breaking, taking what came before to make now and forever.

My best friend made an album often referred to as "the Sargent Peppers of hip hop" and on many top album of all time lists, "Paul's Boutique". by the Beastie Boys. They used an insane amount of samples since it was done in a time when obtaining rights was like getting the rights to upload studio produced content on Pornhub. The joy of that album is how much they used what came before to create something that was part of the future. The difference is the samples were layered in a fashion that created something original while Kanye gets called out constantly for just rapping over hooks, lines, and sinkers from other songs.

Well.. "dumber" is also about how you measure it, but environment toxins have increased all kinds of birth defects, brain related too, also for example young men have lower testosterone levels than old farts, even though it should be other way around.

which was fine at that time. they hadn't proved their immense influence or longevity yet. lets see if kayne is even remembered in 50 years though possibly, we'll both be dead.

You nailed it with "depends on how proactive you are in finding new music..." - I found myself nodding in total agreement. The mainstream classic rock station I listen to at work all day just plays the old standards over and over...and I have to remind myself that there's new stuff (in my genre) out there...it's just not as easy to find as it was 20 years ago.

But a few of my favorite old bands are still making new releases - but not getting much radio play for the new material. So I've resorted to looking for their new stuff on Youtube, and then digging around to buy the new releases I like. My wife's always asking why I spend so much time on Youtube - but then she goes, "Oh, I really like that song" when I find a nugget buried somewhere. :1orglaugh

Just let them swim in their ignorance.... the world always needs more fast food workers

Why the hell they would need to know Paul MccArtney?

The song they created sounds like CRAP. Kanye West need to leave the auto tune alone. When I first heard about Paul McCartney being featured on a Kanye West track, I was thinking it was going to be a classic. But, its just classic CRAP.

Common knowledge. Almost like knowing Elvis Presley or Charles Chaplin.

Chaplin is the only one from those, whose production is somewhat familiar to me, but I still know who they all are and what they have done in general.

I asked Google by searching for each muscians name:

Kanye West About 128,000,000 results
Paul Mccartney About 290,000,000 results

you honestly think that Kayne West will have a legacy the same as the Beatles? He'll only be known for the gay fish joke, certainly not for his songs.

Why everyone - including Kenye West fans - should know who Paul McCartney is:

Cultural literacy.

If you do not know enough about modern culture, which includes The motherfucking BEATLES, then you will be lost in society and your chances of communicating and achieving success will be diminished.

In other words, don't be a dumbass.

Yeezus is one motherfucking cool record ...

Yeezus AKA Gay fish:winkwink:

@jimmycooper

"So, you're intentionally ignorant?

How exactly do you expect kids these days to learn about music from 2 or 3 generations ago?"


How are twenty somethings on Twitter... That might just be the greatest bit of irony in gfy history.


"Shouldn't it be considered a positive that Kanye wanted to collaborate with McCartney?"

I don't know, should it? You don't say. Apparently circular logic passes an argument these days.

"How is that a bad thing?"

It's noise pollution.

"Sure, the people who hadn't yet heard of Paul McCartney sound like idiots on Twitter, but shouldn't it be considered a good thing that they've now heard of him and can then google 'Paul McCartney' and then stumble upon The White Album, listen to it, and think "Man, that is some good shit!"?"

You mean download for free but are too dishonest to say. No, these halfwits will do no such thing.

"If you're truly a Beatles fan, you should be happy that a new generation of fans are being exposed to them because it will keep their legacy alive for many more years."

Yeah because without some ghetto tards the Beatles will disappear from history.

Now we get the obligatory personal experience which is somehow suppose to be analogous to the topic up for discussion. You know who does that? People who don't know anything because that's all they can do. Everything is relational and to your pitiful little life because you have no foundation of knowledge on which to base any argument(s). Bunch of false wonderment bullshit thrown in for affect.


"When I was growing up, my mom would always listen to Oldies radio stations which would play some of their earlier stuff so I was exposed to them from an early age. While I liked their songs, I didn't truly become a fan until college when I started listening to their later stuff."


"Just because these people haven't heard of Paul McCartney doesn't necessarily mean that they are all idiots (though I'm sure that a lot of them are), it just means that they haven't had the benefit of being exposed to his music at a young age."

YES, IT DOES.

You're one of these sophist retards who doesn't know up from down or it they're coming or going.

Here, back at it with;

"there are a lot of people out there who view Kanye as being in the same stature as did people view The Beatles back in the 60s."

Yeah and a lot of people shoot heroin in their eyeballs, what's your point moron?

"If you've followed his career, you'd know that he made a transition with his sound on his last two albums in a way similar to what the Beatles did beginning with Revolver or Sgt. Peppers."

You might be one of those smack heads.

"Again, it's really hard to compare the two. Different genres, different generations. Only time will tell."

REALLY? What will time tell us? Other than your stupidity being eternal that is.

Look at this profound declaration.

"There has been good music over the past couple of decades"

"it's just more difficult to keep up with as an adult."

You're projecting. It's difficult for YOU. See also; your experiences.

"A lot of that I think has to do with getting older and having more responsibilities than you had when you were younger. At least that's been the case for me."

Hey! finally some progress even if it's just stating the obvious.

"No you didn't. You may think you have, but that has more to do with your deluded sense of self-worth than it does with reality."

More projection.

Have fun doubling down in your reply I won't read. You should really take a look at yourself with some of the replies you gave to people here. Also, think before you speak. I guess granny never taught you that either.

It's too

It's too bad Kanye isnt too cool for the safe belt

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Actually I don't even check out YouTube for new releases of my old favorite bands. Unless they're the likes of Metallica, most of the time you never hear about their new albums these days. I do check out songs from the new releases on YouTube though.

What I do is check out the band name on Wikipedia and scroll down to discography. I do this a few times a year, keeps me pretty up to date with new releases. Add new discoveries (for me) to the list and I have a never-ending hand-picked collection of music that is now about six months' worth of non-stop listening.

I do the same thing with Wikipedia. End of last week I went there and searched for new releases for 2014. I think 'Albums Released In 2014" and there was this huge list broken down by month. I was amazed about 9 of my old favorites had released CDs in 2014!! So I went and downloaded them. 7 out of the 9 sounded like old farts trying to sound young. LOL