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Double trouble 01-06-2015 02:44 PM

Hundred Vacations

TheSquealer 01-06-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer]
Of course not - the very purpose of doing it makes it clear that you know it's not legal and you can't claim safe harbor. Adult King got busted time and time again. He's a sick douchebag just as bad as the other guys. He is a weak, self important, self aggrandizing jack off that has stated time and time again that he is not going to be held accountable or answer questions, all while he acts as a self appointed judge, jury and executioner. He's just as fucked in the head as the guys who got banned are.
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Originally Posted by AdultKing
You're entitled to your opinion.

Uhmm... breaking the law to allegedly catch people breaking the law is not legal. Thats not opinion. It's just another example of why you are a loose cannon and just as big a part of the problem. Your attitude sucks, you're unprofessional in every possible way and you're a self righteous, sanctimonious asshole.

AdultKing 01-06-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20349020)
Uhmm... breaking the law to allegedly catch people breaking the law is not legal. Thats not opinion. It's just another example of why you are a loose cannon and just as big a part of the problem. Your attitude sucks, you're unprofessional in every possible way and you're a self righteous, sanctimonious asshole.

In a thread posted by someone wanting tube affiliate programs you said

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20348936)
What he is saying basically, is that you should stop using search engines for example because you can't know for sure that all results are legal sites, with the legal rights to every image, piece of clip art etc etc etc. Therefore, if you are profiting from search traffic, then you are dishonest, if you are searching for something with search engines, you are dishonest.

So, according to you, is running a tube affiliate site using established tube affiliate programs legal or illegal ? Because your conflicting views are confusing.

I guess that if you're now saying that tube affiliate programs are completely illegal that you'll begin hopping in all the threads made by people on this forum who run them and point that out.

What your post demonstrates to me is that I can post a very detailed and thorough explanation of an issue and that it's completely pointless to do so.

GAMEFINEST 01-06-2015 03:17 PM

Everyone needs a drink and relax

TheSquealer 01-06-2015 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20349037)
In a thread posted by someone wanting tube affiliate programs you said



So, according to you, is running a tube affiliate site using established tube affiliate programs legal or illegal ? Because your conflicting views are confusing.

I guess that if you're now saying that tube affiliate programs are completely illegal that you'll begin hopping in all the threads made by people on this forum who run them and point that out.

What your post demonstrates to me is that I can post a very detailed and thorough explanation of an issue and that it's completely pointless to do so.

He was asking a question and you basically called his character into question. I used an analogy to make fun of your position. Any idiot could understand what I was getting at... but then you like to prove that you're not just any idiot.

To answer your question... .If a tube site is following DMCA requirements and not uploading content they have no rights to themselves or encouraging illegal uploads directly or indirectly, then they are free to do what they want in terms of running an affiliate program (strictly from legal standpoint) and its 100% none of your fucking business. Nor is it any of your fucking business if others choose to participate in that affiliate program or work with them.

Not every tube site is a criminal enterprise as you'd have others believe and as your broke ass cheerleaders NEED to believe. Your existence now is little more than empty theatrics so that you can validate your own existence and give your empty and meaningless life both purpose and meaning.

And again, you admittedly ran illegal sites to allegedly catch illegal sites. That's not legal - plain and simple. Talking in fucking circles all day and then periodically announcing that you've "addressed it", doesn't make it legal either. One of the many examples of how you are just a delusional, self righteous asshole.

TheSquealer 01-06-2015 04:31 PM

What its most amusing about your attitude is that you don't have much spread support in an industry that chants all day long that "piracy has killed it".

That should be a red flag for you. It should tell you that something is very very very wrong with your methods and how you present yourself to others.

Your lack of support is not because no one cares about the issue, its because you can't even say anything without coming off like a self righteous asshole on a power trip. If you were a leader in the military, you would have been shot by your own troops long ago.

PAR 01-06-2015 05:21 PM


Jman 01-06-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 20349044)
Everyone needs a drink and relax

Fuck that everyone here needs a Quaalude :pimp

The Porn Nerd 01-06-2015 06:34 PM

I have asked this question once, fifty times, and now one more time:

How does ANY of this help a Content Owner? Are paysites sales going up or down because of all this bullshit?

The answer is nada. NO DIFFERANCE IS BEING MADE. So what the fuck ever (as my girlfriend would say).

Captain Kawaii 01-06-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20349224)
I have asked this question once, fifty times, and now one more time:

How does ANY of this help a Content Owner? Are paysites sales going up or down because of all this bullshit?

The answer is nada. NO DIFFERANCE IS BEING MADE. So what the fuck ever (as my girlfriend would say).

Its a long term thing PN. Not an overnight thing.

On a note to Squealer, government agencies catch criminal sites all the time and leave them up and running. Just reading news headlines for last 20 years will tell you that. I think that concept is widely accepted these days. So are honeypots etc.

I've only seen a miniscule part of the member list but it would seem AK has the support of every major player in the business. These are people making millions every month. If you think they are blind and stupid that is your choice.

AdultKing 01-06-2015 08:26 PM

re: Squealer - yawn. same boring material, it gets old.

re: the Porn Nerd - this is a long term project, you might notice more if we stopped.

re this thread - I've covered everything I feel I need to.

TheSquealer 01-06-2015 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20349263)
On a note to Squealer, government agencies catch criminal sites all the time and leave them up and running. Just reading news headlines for last 20 years will tell you that. I think that concept is widely accepted these days. So are honeypots etc.

Of course they do. The primary difference being that they are acting within the law, have oversight, answer to courts and judges and other government watchdog agencies or Congress.

They don't just arbitrarily declare themselves one day, the defenders of freedom and honesty and integrity and then act illegally, calling anyone who does the same a "pirate".

Guess what? YOU can't go set up a CP forum to catch people who trade CP. Right? This example is no different. It's not difficult to understand this basic legal concept. You can't commit criminal copyright infringement and/or contributory infringement and claim you were doing it for the benefit (long term presumably) of the content rights holders for which you have no relationship with whatsoever.

Its not tough to understand.

Sorry, but your friend is an asshole. Fighting piracy is a noble task for sure. But AdultKing is a total fucking douchebag that really one cares about his own self serving agenda. Now he is saying he monetized the traffic as well - as a way of saying "thank you" to plugrush. Uh huh..... then that is also criminal as he willfully and knowingly infringed on other peoples rights for financial gain. But yeah... he's all about truth and justice. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see that he's really all about Robert.

AdultKing 01-06-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20349326)
Now he is saying he monetized the traffic as well - as a way of saying "thank you" to plugrush.

Don't misquote me.

I said I mentioned Plugrush had set up Don't Steal Porn to give them credit for doing that over a year ago.

However you keep making things up as you go along, it's rather entertaining in a way. Carry on.

Markul 01-07-2015 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20349126)
If you were a leader in the military, you would have been shot by your own troops long ago.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I doubt he'd last more than 2 minutes in the army. But I am pretty sure him and all his disconnected companies are a one man army.

WarChild 01-07-2015 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20349263)
Its a long term thing PN. Not an overnight thing.

Actually, it's a totally ineffectual thing. No sales have been made or retained because of this effort. No content that was readily available through piracy is now no longer available. The time frame is irrelevant really.

You can't honestly believe any substantial dent has been or will be made. That would be wishful thinking, at very best.

topnotch, standup guy 01-07-2015 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20349224)
I have asked this question once, fifty times, and now one more time:

How does ANY of this help a Content Owner? Are paysites sales going up or down because of all this bullshit?

The answer is nada. NO DIFFERANCE IS BEING MADE. So what the fuck ever (as my girlfriend would say).

Ever send out any DMCA notices?

Before AK begin his campaign, a lot of file lockers routinely ignored DMCA notices. Now nearly all of them comply with such. That in itself makes a big difference for content owners.

Additionally at least one major file locker (Rapidgator) reduced their take down time from 48 hours to 24 hours. That too is a difference.

More tellingly, the upload monkeys on WJunction and elsewhere have been going spastic ever since AK's campaign started rolling. Why do you suppose that is?

Freedom6995 01-07-2015 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20349334)
Don't misquote me.

I said I mentioned Plugrush had set up Don't Steal Porn to give them credit for doing that over a year ago.

However you keep making things up as you go along, it's rather entertaining in a way. Carry on.


Your sites had PlugRush ads and gsxads on them.

https://gfy.com/20348410-post7908.html

You've not answered the question as to why and the reason for you to monetize these sites.

Are you going to answer the question?

Markul 01-08-2015 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom6995 (Post 20349560)
Are you going to answer the question?

Have faith :)

released 01-08-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 20348515)
Anyone for some Refried Beans?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Way to go man... haha... lol...

... crawling into my funny place laughing so hard :1orglaugh

Freedom6995 01-08-2015 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20350681)
Have faith :)

My faith is strong. :)

I see he logins in, but no reply is forthcoming. Why is that I wonder?

http://www.claybennett.com/images/ar...cookie_jar.jpg

Zyber 01-08-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20348244)
The so called piracy forum is a brand new affiliate forum which hasn't been launched yet. It's open for affiliates of pay sites to join and post threads with their affiliate links. It allows non affiliate webmasters to reply to posts and no links to illegal tubes or file lockers are allowed. I plan on launching it in March. Porn Forums

I made a post on the subject of the tube aggregators we were running which can be found here: https://gfy.com/20336365-post7739.html

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20349006)
No they weren't honeypots. The term "honeypot" is what WDF & Nukepiracy labeled them as.

All they were was a set of eight standard everyday tube aggregation sites using tube affiliate programs. Many people on this forum run as few as one to as many as hundreds of the things.

In fact someone just posted a thread asking for tube affiliate programs to run just this kind of site. See: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...-programs.html

All we were doing was running eight of these sites using different affiliate programs and tallying up what was pirated and what wasn't while creating a paper trail of the affiliate connection between our sites and the tube operators. This was in order to demonstrate that the tube operators don't just supply licensed content to affiliates but also pirated content.



No it's not legal and doing that is completely different from what we were doing.



Correct, however the sites were not honeypots, they were normal garden variety tube affiliate sites with content delivered by the tube affiliate program and embedded on the source tube.

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20349006)
If you want to ban me for running eight tube affiliate sites then you'll also want to ban a good proportion of GFY members, many people run these tube affiliate sites. They are common practice.

Many tubes license a great deal of content and many also cut deals with content producers. It is possible for tubes to only deliver licensed and authorised material to affiliates and this is a situation we wanted to work to bring about.


So according to your words your tube sites are just normal affiliate sites with legal licensed sponsor-provided content.

It means a sponsor must have provided you with this content?

http://i.imgur.com/m36cRi9.png
Source

The conclusion must be that there exist sponsors who can magically provide legal licensed jailbait content? How is that possible?

Isn't it technically impossible for a girl to sign a legally binding model release contract if she hasn't reached the age of consent yet?

PAR 01-08-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyber (Post 20351068)
The conclusion must be that there exist sponsors who can magically provide legal licensed jailbait content? How is that possible?

Isn't it technically impossible for a girl to sign a legally binding model release contract if she hasn't reached the age of consent yet?

Not defending AK, that term should really not be used to define content on an adult site.
I have seen it used a few times but never see it as a great term to use.

I do wondering if he is using the term (rather stupidly) in-place of "barely legal"...
If so then the lineup of people with full 2257 of such content is long...

But then, it could also be of non nude pics (still a stupid term to use) and I'm not sure we here can say much about that with the hot girl on FB thread no on how many pages. I think it could be assumed that not all are over 18 and people posting them may not have 100% right to do so.

Regardless or the content why would someone opt to use the very term on an adult site?

Rik Lear 01-10-2015 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by released (Post 20350683)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Way to go man... haha... lol...

... crawling into my funny place laughing so hard :1orglaugh

What is key for Eric to do is to add approx. 2 TBS. Cumin to the refrieds per can, and simply add 1 can chili (to both cans). Simmer on low for 10 mins, and at the very end, add 1 Tsp. garlic powder and half a finely chopped normal medium-sized onion (at the end to remain crunchy)..

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Re: AK, I'm noticing as an outsider reading all of this, that this is what he's doing. He's mixing things up, and he (you AK) are quite clever at your responses. AK's never answered any questions directly, but slithered around any direct response. A normal police detective would get a red flag instantly and call him in for questioning.

I'm also noticing that the responses by AK are getting tired. Like a mule pushed to the limit in order to garner whatever rep-spect he might have left. One thing is by far absolute sure, this thread has beaten down the mule, and you can tell by the sentence structure and the tiredness of the responses. The verbiage. The use of subjects & predicates. Psychologically, it appears that he is worn and torn. All efforts crushed. Like Jalapeno' seeds... (Eric, use a few of those too!) Just a few. :-P

It's quite ironic that I came back into GFY right at the exact time that the thread was staritng with AK, so I feel like I've been a witness from the start of the attack. But, I will say, that I'm not to impressed with the so-called efforts & responses by the now-infamous Australian Anti-Piracy rescue monger.

AK, no offense, but you're being destroyed here. And you can't seem to come back with anything of substance. It's just a "Check out my interview," or a yada, yada, yada <-- (American saying)

Eric needs to then shred sharp cheddar, add 1 TBS white/rainbow pepper and a splash of oregano to his concoction, and grab tortillas and we'll all be good.

Personally, I like to broil them with half cheese on one side, and the concoction on the other side until crisp, fold them over in half, and crispen them on both sides like a Quesadilla.

Then you dip them in sour cream with 1/4 cup salsa mixed in.


:jester

8pt-buck 03-22-2015 05:39 AM

Interesting read.

mamaliga 03-22-2015 05:47 PM

what is this crap

Matyko 03-23-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20349224)
I have asked this question once, fifty times, and now one more time:

How does ANY of this help a Content Owner? Are paysites sales going up or down because of all this bullshit?

The answer is nada. NO DIFFERANCE IS BEING MADE. So what the fuck ever (as my girlfriend would say).

If you say there is no difference and it does not matter than you are retarded... :2 cents:


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