The so called piracy forum is a brand new affiliate forum which hasn't been launched yet. It's open for affiliates of pay sites to join and post threads with their affiliate links. It allows non affiliate webmasters to reply to posts and no links to illegal tubes or file lockers are allowed. I plan on launching it in March. Porn Forums

I made a post on the subject of the tube aggregators we were running which can be found here: https://gfy.com/20336365-post7739.html

You tease! :jerkoff & no bothering , I'm the most laid back chill muthafucka you know:xmas-smil

Have fun boys I'm out for the night :thumbsup

I have to agree "AK" does seem to have some questions that should be answered.
Even if only to clear the air, I can't see anyone wanting to read the full 150+ pages of a thread.

So I'll make the same deal with AK as I made with Nuke Privacy.
Post a simple explanation or given time in the not so distant future I will not only be looking into them but also you.

As I said to them I will also say to you... You are free to take this as a threat or as an opportunity to tell your story... In the end your choice will will say something in and of itself.

To be 100% clear I'm not asking about how you do what you do or your methods... There is a question of some site you own/owned that seem to suggest playing both sides of the issue.

I only fuck hot chicks :pimp

You don't need to read 150 pages, you only need to read this interview I did with AVN which addresses everything I feel needs to be addressed.

AVN - Interview with Robert King, aka AdultKing

Keep in mind, I have put my name to what I have said, unlike people such as FriendsForNow who cowardly hid behind fake nicks.

TBH; You posted a link that explains what I was looking to be answered.
https://gfy.com/20336365-post7739.html

I stepped away for a couple min between starting my post and submitting it.

Thank you for taking the time and in turn saving everyone here some.

Anyone for some Refried Beans?

Yes please, and can you cut up some hot dogs and put them in .. Oh and a little cheese on top... That would hit the spot.
Can I also get a Capt and Redbull with that order...

As long as they are disinfected.

Thanks for the thorough explanation. :thumbsup

So your sites are/were basically honeypots to gather intelligence and evidence. Sting operations are always a tricky issue to defend, so I understand the initial confusion.

Good luck with your collection of paper trail. Hopefully this will some day lead into an effective "Stop the tubes" campaign. Although that is a very tough cookie as MindGeek is already quite powerful in our industry.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i was just thinking that!

Is running s honeypot site legal though? Can I go set up a torrent site as a honey pot? Is that legal?

Probably not legal. Unless you work for law enforcement in a jurisdiction where entrapment is an allowed practice.

But it's a pretty good excuse when caught with the hand in the cookie jar :winkwink:

It doesn't explain all the sites and the information about the past that he posted....
Also "getting taken back by the warez community" sounds a bit weird... He could just create a new name and be in LOL

If it walks like a duck...

I guess this would explain why AdultKing has shown his face back here.

Pussy wouldn't have done so if they were still here.

Of course not - the very purpose of doing it makes it clear that you know it's not legal and you can't claim safe harbor. Adult King got busted time and time again. He's a sick douchebag just as bad as the other guys. He is a weak, self important, self aggrandizing jack off that has stated time and time again that he is not going to be held accountable or answer questions, all while he acts as a self appointed judge, jury and executioner. He's just as fucked in the head as the guys who got banned are.

So why is AK not banned? He was breaking the LAW. It doesn't matter if he has good intention(I don't believe the honeypot story but whatever.), what he was doing is wrong.

AK's tube got DMCa'd and he did not respond. How do you think those content owners feel?

(If AK has a response to this I guarantee you, it's going to be that i'm the biggest pirate around. lol Will wait and see.)

You have a way with words. Sometimes it's just wondrous to read :thumbsup

No they weren't honeypots. The term "honeypot" is what WDF & Nukepiracy labeled them as.

All they were was a set of eight standard everyday tube aggregation sites using tube affiliate programs. Many people on this forum run as few as one to as many as hundreds of the things.

In fact someone just posted a thread asking for tube affiliate programs to run just this kind of site. See: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...-programs.html

All we were doing was running eight of these sites using different affiliate programs and tallying up what was pirated and what wasn't while creating a paper trail of the affiliate connection between our sites and the tube operators. This was in order to demonstrate that the tube operators don't just supply licensed content to affiliates but also pirated content.

No it's not legal and doing that is completely different from what we were doing.

Correct, however the sites were not honeypots, they were normal garden variety tube affiliate sites with content delivered by the tube affiliate program and embedded on the source tube.

I've never been a part of the warez community so I don't know where you got that idea from.

You're entitled to your opinion.

If you want to ban me for running eight tube affiliate sites then you'll also want to ban a good proportion of GFY members, many people run these tube affiliate sites. They are common practice.

Many tubes license a great deal of content and many also cut deals with content producers. It is possible for tubes to only deliver licensed and authorised material to affiliates and this is a situation we wanted to work to bring about.

Actually the sites themselves received no DMCA notices. The DMCA notice issued was issued to Google to remove a few pages from Google search. Had we received a DMCA notice directly we would have taken down the content and then contacted the rights holder to explain what we were doing.

You were outed as a pirate long ago and by others. see: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ed-pirate.html

Summary

We have no wish to stop the tubes from running affiliate programs, all we want is for the tubes to stop supplying unauthorised content to affiliates. Some pretty big companies, some who advertise on this forum. What we do want to see is them only supplying affiliates with licensed content or authorised content. We'd also like sites like XVideos to start playing ball because it's one of the worst tubes when it comes to piracy.

For the first 18 months of running the Stop File Lockers project people complained we weren't dealing with the tube situation. Now that were are trying to deal with the tube situation by collecting reliable and usable data we're the bad guys for doing that also.

Tubes won't go away, but with enough pressure the pirated content can be reduced and it can be eliminated entirely from tube affiliate sites, this would be a great first step.

Hundred Vacations

Uhmm... breaking the law to allegedly catch people breaking the law is not legal. Thats not opinion. It's just another example of why you are a loose cannon and just as big a part of the problem. Your attitude sucks, you're unprofessional in every possible way and you're a self righteous, sanctimonious asshole.

In a thread posted by someone wanting tube affiliate programs you said

So, according to you, is running a tube affiliate site using established tube affiliate programs legal or illegal ? Because your conflicting views are confusing.

I guess that if you're now saying that tube affiliate programs are completely illegal that you'll begin hopping in all the threads made by people on this forum who run them and point that out.

What your post demonstrates to me is that I can post a very detailed and thorough explanation of an issue and that it's completely pointless to do so.

Everyone needs a drink and relax

He was asking a question and you basically called his character into question. I used an analogy to make fun of your position. Any idiot could understand what I was getting at... but then you like to prove that you're not just any idiot.

To answer your question... .If a tube site is following DMCA requirements and not uploading content they have no rights to themselves or encouraging illegal uploads directly or indirectly, then they are free to do what they want in terms of running an affiliate program (strictly from legal standpoint) and its 100% none of your fucking business. Nor is it any of your fucking business if others choose to participate in that affiliate program or work with them.

Not every tube site is a criminal enterprise as you'd have others believe and as your broke ass cheerleaders NEED to believe. Your existence now is little more than empty theatrics so that you can validate your own existence and give your empty and meaningless life both purpose and meaning.

And again, you admittedly ran illegal sites to allegedly catch illegal sites. That's not legal - plain and simple. Talking in fucking circles all day and then periodically announcing that you've "addressed it", doesn't make it legal either. One of the many examples of how you are just a delusional, self righteous asshole.

What its most amusing about your attitude is that you don't have much spread support in an industry that chants all day long that "piracy has killed it".

That should be a red flag for you. It should tell you that something is very very very wrong with your methods and how you present yourself to others.

Your lack of support is not because no one cares about the issue, its because you can't even say anything without coming off like a self righteous asshole on a power trip. If you were a leader in the military, you would have been shot by your own troops long ago.

Fuck that everyone here needs a Quaalude :pimp

I have asked this question once, fifty times, and now one more time:

How does ANY of this help a Content Owner? Are paysites sales going up or down because of all this bullshit?

The answer is nada. NO DIFFERANCE IS BEING MADE. So what the fuck ever (as my girlfriend would say).

Its a long term thing PN. Not an overnight thing.

On a note to Squealer, government agencies catch criminal sites all the time and leave them up and running. Just reading news headlines for last 20 years will tell you that. I think that concept is widely accepted these days. So are honeypots etc.

I've only seen a miniscule part of the member list but it would seem AK has the support of every major player in the business. These are people making millions every month. If you think they are blind and stupid that is your choice.

re: Squealer - yawn. same boring material, it gets old.

re: the Porn Nerd - this is a long term project, you might notice more if we stopped.

re this thread - I've covered everything I feel I need to.

Of course they do. The primary difference being that they are acting within the law, have oversight, answer to courts and judges and other government watchdog agencies or Congress.

They don't just arbitrarily declare themselves one day, the defenders of freedom and honesty and integrity and then act illegally, calling anyone who does the same a "pirate".

Guess what? YOU can't go set up a CP forum to catch people who trade CP. Right? This example is no different. It's not difficult to understand this basic legal concept. You can't commit criminal copyright infringement and/or contributory infringement and claim you were doing it for the benefit (long term presumably) of the content rights holders for which you have no relationship with whatsoever.

Its not tough to understand.

Sorry, but your friend is an asshole. Fighting piracy is a noble task for sure. But AdultKing is a total fucking douchebag that really one cares about his own self serving agenda. Now he is saying he monetized the traffic as well - as a way of saying "thank you" to plugrush. Uh huh..... then that is also criminal as he willfully and knowingly infringed on other peoples rights for financial gain. But yeah... he's all about truth and justice. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see that he's really all about Robert.

Don't misquote me.

I said I mentioned Plugrush had set up Don't Steal Porn to give them credit for doing that over a year ago.

However you keep making things up as you go along, it's rather entertaining in a way. Carry on.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I doubt he'd last more than 2 minutes in the army. But I am pretty sure him and all his disconnected companies are a one man army.

Actually, it's a totally ineffectual thing. No sales have been made or retained because of this effort. No content that was readily available through piracy is now no longer available. The time frame is irrelevant really.

You can't honestly believe any substantial dent has been or will be made. That would be wishful thinking, at very best.

Ever send out any DMCA notices?

Before AK begin his campaign, a lot of file lockers routinely ignored DMCA notices. Now nearly all of them comply with such. That in itself makes a big difference for content owners.

Additionally at least one major file locker (Rapidgator) reduced their take down time from 48 hours to 24 hours. That too is a difference.

More tellingly, the upload monkeys on WJunction and elsewhere have been going spastic ever since AK's campaign started rolling. Why do you suppose that is?

Your sites had PlugRush ads and gsxads on them.

https://gfy.com/20348410-post7908.html

You've not answered the question as to why and the reason for you to monetize these sites.

Are you going to answer the question?

Have faith :)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Way to go man... haha... lol...

... crawling into my funny place laughing so hard :1orglaugh

My faith is strong. :)

I see he logins in, but no reply is forthcoming. Why is that I wonder?

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