I'm reasonably sure Capt. Phillips can supply you with a good reason. He ain't grieving over three Somalians with bullets in their forehead.

Not sure what you are trying to tell me but as a german i have learned that tolerance and freedom of speech are 2 important things.

There is no justification for killing anyone ever - under no circumstance

Edit: self defense might be an exception

Look it here,

Just because there was a porn industry prior to 1995 does not mean the ACLU has done nothing to fight for the rights of pornography producers and distributors.

Just because in your opinion Kathy & Jeff Willets had "more to do with the legalization of the distribution of porn than the ACLU" does not neccesarily mean the ACLU has done nothing to fight for the rights of pornography producers and distributors.

You claim the ACLU has done nothing. I provided you with a court case that contradicts your claim.

Do you really think he was around the late 30's and early 40's?

You say that nobody ever fought for shit for you, but at the same time as you're enjoying your freedoms you say he should know about some shit just because he's German. You're about as stupid as that crussifisco twat.

Thank you for proving the issue .. low intelligence :thumbsup

UPDATE AS YOU ALL MIGHT KNOW:

Cherif Kouachi one of the attackers, WAS BORN IN FRANCE,PARIS and hold French citizenship - SO NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO EDUCATE THESE ISLAMISTS, ALL THE KNOW AND DO IS TERROR, HATE AND KILLINGS /rant over

The big problem here is the overall islamification of europe. Sweden, Denmark, Germany, France, UK are all absolutely swamped by muslim immigrants to the point where they are beginning to be minorities in their own countries. There are extremists and normal people, but attacks this like and muslim protests demanding sharia are causing alot of people to become anti-islam in europe. Islamophobia in europe will grow and grow until we start as a whole wanting them out of our countries - and you know what happened the last time someone wanted a whole ethnic group out of europe...

It's way past the time for ANY religion.

There is simply no need for modern man to need this superstition to explain anything any longer. Religions were invented by uneducated ignorant people a couple of thousand years ago. They are outdated and only used to control people at this point.

You know very well what I'm getting at.
But just to be clear shortly after WW1 a mouth piece started making speeches about telling Germans who's to blame for their social problems and how the Germans are descendants of the master race. Radical Islam at its worst can't hold a match to the insanity that took hold in your nation.

If someone in the 1930s had said screw "freedom of speech" and shut the would be dictator up there would have a lot less murders and torture in the 20th century.

There is absolutely no good reason to kill anyone. But just the same people do it all the time and not just for bad reasons but for absolutely stupid moronic ones. That's how life works and therefore we all have a responsibility to work at getting along with each other. Like it or not we are "The Planet of the Apes"

The 3 gunmen are without doubt murderers but so are the cartoonist and the publisher of the magazine. The murders were done for stupid reasons but the cartoons were equally stupid. Innocent people were killed that had nothing to do with either the cartoons or radical Islam.

So no one should ever provoke someone else and often for the greater good of peace we need to often shut someone up. Freedom of Speech should never be an excuse to be an asshole to others

1) Willets is a fact not an opinion. Cases and charges were dropped against many distributors because the courts found themselves engaging in the very same activity they were passing judgement on.

2) I'm reasonably certain that you're not actually involved in the porn industry. And I can say that with some certainty because there really isn't much of an industry left these days. So apart from attending a "convention" or a "show"... What do you really know about the jizz biz? Sorry but you bring nothing to the table and your information is just cut and paste and wikipedia nonsense.

Hebdo played with matches and got lit up like a Christmas tree. By Al-Qaeda, hardly Islamic militant but more or less a US creation of professional fighters, terrorists and assassins.

Riddle me this, why would anyone have a mother or pregnant woman (which is/was she?) answer the door when the editor has 2 secret service police with him 24/7 and they have a policeman outside?

People should try and take a non-biased look at the history of the "Beurs" relationship with people in France. No wonder France is unraveling. Forget all the Al Sharptons running around spewing their left/right BS. Daily life has been hard enough. For everyone.

I've lived and worked in Algeria and Morocco. Hard to find radicals until after the Gulf Wars.

Before then, very few hardcore muslims and lots of quasi-Islamic stuff going on. I worked as a record producer and film company guide.

This has been coming since the Algerian Civil war of the 1990's. Dis-affected youth grew up, moved to France and started to boil up...and raise kids doing the same. France has had a love-hate relationship, mostly hate, with Algeria since the 19th century.

:2 cents:

It bugs me that I agree with everything you said.

:2 cents:

come on, muhamed is not gay

France has some of the strictest anti racial-hatred laws in the world. They'll fine you for something as small as quoting statistical facts about prison population. This is not the 1930's.

You are out of order.

The very role of satirists is to challenge established powers, be they political parties or institutions like the Church. Nothing of what they wrote was hateful. Charlie Hebdo isn't a provocative anti-islam ultra nationalist publications. It's full of lefties. Their message was that nobody should be above criticism.

yes, and for me this is a problem

You know people throw around the term "Freedom of Speech" and in their minds it means they get to say, publish, etc absolutely anything and everything. Thankfully that's not the case because I know of at least 1 pornographer that would try to make child porn.

Everything has it's limits in life and more people should consider the families of the innocent victims that had NOTHING to do with either radical Islam or the cartoons.

ie: Little Francois asks his mother why his father was killed. And she's forced to tell him that his father got caught in the crossfire when some man drew a cartoon that another man didn't like. (Nice epitaph to put on someone's tombstone.. "Gave his life for a cartoon")

In a perfect world only the gunmen and the magazine publisher and cartoonist would be affected. They can brutally murder each other with spoons for all I care. Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world and innocent people usually pay the price for someone else's argument.

1) You know nothing about France. The French are extremely racist and it's a very "COLD" form of racism that's ingrained in their bureaucracy and culture. At least in the United States a racist will call a man nigger to his face. But many French people will smile politely simply say "the job has been filled and thank you for coming."

If you don't believe me then go live in France and just try and do something as minor as rent an apartment. Even if you're white with a suitcase of money you'll find it almost impossible because the French only want to deal avec des Français de souche and preferably those with a certain associated "prestige."

Like I said if you don't believe me then go to France and see for yourself. In fact I dare you.

2) It's was just a stupid cartoon and it didn't change anything or help anyone. And it certainly didn't warrant the death of innocent lives.

Mickey Mouse has brought a lot more joy and happiness into this world than Charlie Hebdo's drawings. But just the same I'm not going to give my life to defending Walt Disney's right to draw Mickey. Nor should anyone else.

no, it's ok if you are a rich black guy with an american citizenship, just try to look handsome and classy like obama

Little Francois can be told film-maker Jean-Luc Godard called his dad “the best journalist in France” whatever his chosen medium was.

1) Ok. Since you're the French specialist and I know nothing surely you know Voltaire : “Je ne suis pas d’accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu’à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire”

2) The average french might be very racist, doesn't change the fact they have very strict anti hate-speech laws and more associations to sue you for it than any other country.

I get it. Keep bending over to avoid a beating. like a prison bitch. that's the solution :disgust

Bien, nous pouvons continuer cette discussion en français.

1) Quant à Voltaire, il ne faisait que se moquer et condamner ses contemporains. Il était également connu pour être un snob et un hypocrite.

Bref Je ne défendrais pas Voltaire et franchement si je le faisais... Voltaire aurait été le premier à se moquer.

2) Depuis Sarkozy plus personne n'applique les lois antiracistes

1) I did not say Willits is an opinion. I said your claim that Willits had "more to do with the legalization of the distribution of porn than the ACLU" is an opinion. Those are two diiferent things.

2) Your "certainty" about me is irrelalvant to your claim about the ACLU. You claimed the ACLU has done nothing. I provided you with a court case that contradicts your claim. (By the way, the cite I provided you was not from wikipedia.)

Fine whatever

Exactly. You claimed that Willits had "more to do with the legalization of the distribution of porn than the ACLU". That claim of yours is your opinion.

I also live in Thailand doesn't mean I read Thai :2 cents: I do know the culture enough though.

It is the ONLY thing worth fighting for. If Minnie Mouse's dress is too short for some should we make it longer? We live by the rule of law, if you can't bear those laws and want Sharia law today you move to a country that has them today. If you don't want to move and want to change things from the inside you obey the rule of law and do what we all do make babies and vote. In the meantime if Minnie's dress hurts
your feelings. tough.

kinda amazing how few people writing in this thread understand what free speech even means. its a right that is written into demcratic constitutions to prevent governments from restricting it.

there is no free speech. Speech has a cost. When i put pictures of myself drunk & stupid on facebook, & i cant get a job, my speech had a cost.

Yes. anyone can insult muslims, jews, christians. but you need to use your brain. insult a jew in texas, nothing will happen. insult a jew in the west bank, you might get shot. insult a black person on a college campus, nothing will happen. Insult one in compton, you might get shot.

the editors of charlie hebdo played with fire. They burned. none of that has anything to do with freedom to insult people, because there is no such freedom at all. insult someone, you might get your ass beat, you might get shot. thats the law of the jungle. Sorry that all the trappings of the first world cloud that fact.

none of this is to justify murder. people should not be killed over insults. But that is an idealistic thought & not a realistic one. in the real world, people die because they cut their sons allowance by $200. insanity will never be purged from our world, sorry. Intelligent people use discretion who, where & when they insult. Duh.

:2 cents:

i don't get how anyone can blame the people that got shot - in the middle of western Europe - this is surreal.

^^This^^

If you live in a democracy like the UK, France, Germany, you are governed by the rule of law. You have every right to use your freedom as you see fit within those boundaries. no if's and but's.

in fact you underestimate the numbers of leftists in france.
Usually if you use this sentence in france, you are suspected to be racist and antisemit.
Leftists are mostly against an unrestricted freedom of speech and their political correctness is easy to trigger.

I'm not able to find a translation for this:
Terrorisme intellectuel — Wikipédia

intellectual terrorism ?

She was wearing a short skirt she kinda deserved to be raped.... no, fuck you :2 cents:

Judeo Christianity,
get loving.

this is a nice gesture :) :thumbsup lets see what they can do :)

do you speak french too ?

ps: i'm getting fucking tired of this "requiem for a dream" music

Really we are all be swamped to the point of being minorities ?

Nothing like exaggeration to inflame a situation and make rational debate more difficult.

It would mean more than 30 million muslims have come to the UK. That's strange as the 2nd language in the UK is Polish.

yes but poles are ok, since they can be used to dance

White Britons are now a minority in 4 towns and cities | UK | News | Daily Express
Ethnic minorities 'will make up one third of the population by 2050' | Daily Mail Online
'Ethnic majority' areas growing, says report - Telegraph

why not. if a circus act draws an audience & makes money poking an angry bear, would you call the circus act blameless when the bear kills the ringmaster?

do you suggest, had they never printed insulting cartoons, they woulda been shot anyway? I believe the nutjobs woulda killed others instead, given their targets were not random.

why do we act like nutjobs will respect rights? they wouldnt be nutjobs if they did that.

:helpme

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