freedom of speech does not include putting others in danger...

edward snowden for example...

freedom of speech is not freedom from responsibility...

I agree 1000% that if I do not like something I do not have to look....

but insulting somebodys core beliefs that is from a war torn country, after decades of sanctions and war and struggling to survive ect ect = utter supiditiy

dude if a country asks you to not print stupid shit for securitys sake of innocent people then you are an asshole of you print it anyway :2 cents:

Cabu the main guy they apparently called out for execution worked for Le Monde, Le Figaro (the two biggest newspapers) as well as TF1 doubt he needed the money :2 cents:

You call terrorists "people" and journalists / cartoonists "trolls".

You should probably be banned in the name of simple decency, but at least accept a hearty "Fuck off, asshole" from me.

I'll re-phrase did Ahmed also " insult Islam, nothing more nothing less..."?

some people are really very sad ...

dude you are more desperate than dynamo with your lack of any real arguments or anyting to say...

the general concensus is that charle hebdo was a struggling magazine that went broke in like 91 and then re-surfaced somehow...the "quality" of their "journalism" is apparent when 20 schools have to be closed because they decide to print a doodle...speaks volumes about these journalists and it is painfully obvious what a "Gem" they were to the "profession"

and no the policeman did not insult allah or anything he got gunned down by a stupid shit terrorist...

Charlie Hebdo has been around for 50 years and Cabu had been called " the best Journalist in France" even before the controversy.

I'll leave it at that, you're very transparent..."She didn't deserve to get raped BUT she was kinda slutty, her dress was too short and so on..." .It's textbook blame the victim character assassination stuff :2 cents:

Just shut up. Your favorite terrorists are now DEAD, asshole! Why don't you go try to sell your pile of shit to another board at this point and cut your losses.

So sorry that today's "freedom fight" was a loss for you and your brothers. Maybe next time you'll gain more traction on the "free speech might deserve being murdered" line of thinking.

Best of luck to you, idiot.

Holy shit OP: go find a brain.

if posting deeply insulting comics, just for the sake of insulting/trolling/whatever, without any cultural or political good will, just pure trolling, is "the best journalism in france" then this is indeed very sad...

why is everybody blind to the utter stupidity of what they did in the first place, to provoke 2 idiots in to shooting them- a terrible crime but very very predictable considering the death threats and closing down of schools and embassies because they HAD to print muhhamed doing stupid irrelevant shit regardless of prior warnings of the government and their security agencies?

it was wreckelss and stupid...no 2 ways about it :2 cents: ...nothing to do with "free speech" just $$$ lets face it...nothing to do with promoting any noble cause whatsoever...just pure troll wrapped in freedom of speech packing...



why do you assume things and then try to hold me responsible for your assumptions?...

no victim character assasination just plain truth:

you wear a slutty dress without adequate male escort------> not very prudent

you put copper wire in electic socket--------> not very prudent

print muhhamed comic despite of governmen warning about imminent terror attack------->not very prudent


nobody deserves to die and/or get raped or whatever...but lets be adults and not do stupid shit? :2 cents:


dude im eastern european and atheist...1/4 of the planet just got alienated a bit more by the actions of 2 nut jobs and I put the blame on irresponsible journalism...I am calling out the "Freedom of speech" abusers who make life worse for everybody by posting POINTLESS SHIT CARTOONS just for lol-s...

I do not support any sort of violence whatsoever, nor did I imply this in any way shape or form...its just despearation and lack of any real arguments on your side that drives you in to thinking that I do...

Keep calling it deeply insulting/pure trolling, I see only one troll here.

here, this guy started a great thread, educate yourself :2 cents:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...een-paris.html

it's like being a porner, I don't like the fact that max hardcore represented our first amendment right to be porners, he's still a tard. But he did and paid a price for that.

just like this, those cartoonists and editors were sophomoric satirists at fucking best. Their schtick was vile, period. Nevertheless, they have the right to print it without fear of reciprocity. They paid a price for that and I don't see "journalism" as a whole crying like little bitches in a lopsided way that discounts the fact these guys were beyond insulting.

dude if a GOVERMENT asks you not to print stupid trolling shit because of concerns for general safety and they have to close embassies and like 20 schools abroad after that then seriously :1orglaugh

tell me something, if your government came to you and asked you, for the sake of the security of 100-s of innocent people, to not post a religiously provocative drawing, that is completely meaninless and not even remotely funny or important to the human race, would you post the drawing anyway?

I sure hope the OP never breeds. Fucking DICKHEAD!!!

where are all the black guys shooting up those white power dickheads who have been making and publishing racist cartoons for decades?

it seems everyone in the world has more sense than these "extremist" muslims. they act like children. they need to grow the fuck up and realize that the world isn't going to bend to their moronic whims.

but they are crybabies...

journalists have teflon coating...no responsibility sticks to them...but at the same time most of them will agree that the pen is mightier than the sword...you can literally start a war by controlling the media...

islamophobia is mostly to blame on sensastionalistic journalism...they satanize everybody from communists to africans to arabs , you name it, the media has made $$$ on bending the truth and inserting panic and fear and xenophobia...

the western journalists first satanized an entire religion, then then a small handful of them made deeply insulting comics about their satanized religion, and now they whine like bitches about "Free speech" :1orglaugh

its hilarious...not the deaths and the xenophobia...the journalist bitch is hilarious :1orglaugh

the french government has promised 1 million euro to the magazine to keep it going after the attack.

dude it was 2 IDIOTS...just TWO...one two...and you are painting a whole religion violent?

would you post the drawing if the government asked you not to for the sake of others and for the reason that the drawing is stupid insulting irrelevant shit? yes or no?

You say this all like you think most of us don't know that. yes, sensationalism sells news. It's been like that for decades now.
Nevertheless, regardless of whether or not those cartoonists were asking for it,

the outrage over the murders is real and justified and warranted.

Ask yourself the same question, you talk about how USA government coerces people into doing shit they don't want to do and that's why we're hated. So are you suggesting YOU would kowtow to a government and not print a silly cartoon that satirically blasphemes religion?

I am painting the whole part of the world where they come from violent. Their laws are archaic and barbaric. their people and their culture is being kept on a leash called islam. it seems their religion is keeping them from evolving.

if you think its only 2 people who are the problem...i don't know what to tell you. i am not saying all muslims are bad, just the fanatic ones though they all seem to have a stick up their ass and expect the world to change for them instead of the other way around.

Hmmmm, looks like a peaceful protest to me.

I don't see any guns, swords or bomb like thingys in the picture.
But it looks like a pack of wolves to you right?

I would never print a silly irrelevant no-talent bullshit cartoon if it was to endanger somebody elses life no matter how bullshit the reason is...

this is what gets me about the charlie hebdo group...they basically put 100-s of people in danger over "journalistic glory" or whatever...

how could they live with what they did knowing that embassies and schools are closed because of their shit? seriously what kind of people are they?

you need to go to some muslim countries and see that they are just like everybody else...maybe somalia and yemen and saudi arabia are fucked up but they are like 5% of the muslim world total...

asking the muslims to integrate is like asking the heavy metal crew to dress nice or girls not to wear miniskrts...its part of muslim culture to dress modes and be offended by profanity...respect your heavy metal and muslim brethren they are just different not evil :2 cents:

:1orglaugh

Easy to tell who the muslim in this thread is. Your prophet sucks dick; I saw a cartoon that proved it.

It was just 2 this time

I see your point; but there is no "white power" bombing killing 100k black people either so that's not an equal comparison.

eastern euro atheist studio boss...so I guess you are not clairvoyant? :1orglaugh

yes all phrophets suck dick btw :thumbsup

Yes it does.

Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and The Philippines where the Moro Islamic Front has been cutting head...Abu Sayyaf taking hostages.... and the South of Thailand where teachers are murdered.. and parts of Nigeria... and Sudan... etc.

Anyway the majority of Muslims are indeed moderate but you're missing a big shift in mentality, radical groups who deem other groups of Muslims not radical enough baiting their own. Moroccans, constantly insulted, their sisters are westerners cum buckets, the country along with Tunisia is Qatar's brothel.

Instead of worrying about cartoons moderate muslims should be looking at how they are being bullied by a group of people who have hijacked the palestinian cause and play directly in the hands of Israel and Saudi Arabia :2 cents:

this is what I am talking about..."catroonists" and "artists" causing riots and 200 dead...the pen is truly mightier than the sword...and with a precedent of TWO HUNDRED DEAD PEOPLE the charlie guys in paris thought it would be a good idea to post more bovie excrement wrapped in "Freedom of speech"?

Am I the only one here to notice the utter stupidity in what they did in the name of """"freedom""""" :1orglaugh

dude they make up 1/4 of the planet thats 1.5 billion people...the USA alone kills more people in one month than these guys do in a decade...

they are just like europeans or americans...texas constantly bitches about mexicans bla bla the KKK has probably more members than alquaida does...white boys mcveigh and that nut job from finland killed more innocent people than any single jihadist...does not make the whole bunch bad :2 cents:

its just a few nut jobs on every side...the rest do not give a shit and would rather live in peace...

who killed 100K white people? you put the figure 100K so you must have a counter example?

WTF are you arguing about?
Who said anything about that?

:1orglaugh

:2 cents:

I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread when you don't even understand the simple saying of "The pen is mightier than the sword"
As it simply idicats that communication, or in some interpretations, administrative power, is a more effective tool than direct violence.

The Cardinal's line in Act II, scene II,

True, This! —
Beneath the rule of men entirely great
The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
The arch-enchanters wand! — itself is nothing! —
But taking sorcery from the master-hand
To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
The loud earth breathless! — Take away the sword —
States can be saved without it!

Anyways;
KKK is estimated to have between 5,000 and 8,000 members. How many of these members are currently shotting people and having fun blowing people up..?
Mcveigh wasn't part of the KKK and what happen had nothing to do with white power.
As for the guy in finland, he is/was 1 person.. There are currently 30,000-50,000 estimated members of ISIS
Al-Qaeda had/has enough members to keep a few well armed armys busy for years...
Total number of people killed by the groups combined over the years would be well over 100k (seems you like that number)

That said you have said only 2 thing that is correct.
1) Not all Musilems are bad.. Most are not, and it is a small % that are part of any movement.
2) The USA kills more people than than the militants do.. But I would not say they come close to killing more a month than the these guys do in a decade.
Isis killed 1922 or so people last June..
1,393 civilians, 380 soldiers and 149 policemen among the dead. Another 2,610 people were wounded, the majority of them civilians.

The amount of water (in feet) that would roar toward the city of Mosul if the Islamic State decided to destroy the Mosul Dam had it not been stopped..
Est population 1.5 million..

My brother. I extend the white hand for a shake with a man who understands. Some things just need to be over looked.