what about Edward ? :-)
THERE IS no Sharia law in France , THERE IS freedom of speech..feel insulted ? dont read it ? dont like Israel ? dont like USA ? draw cartoon about them, try to sell it...if you can...easy

That's the new standard to define strength, it means that you accept your emotions :upsidedow

who claims that ?
List of expeditions of Muhammad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

btw. district 9 is good movie, i recommend it to all :winkwink:

http://uploadpix.files.wordpress.com...strict9-04.jpg

There is no protection from uncivilized people in society.

I'm still struggling to respectfully understand the OP's position.

the entire planet is supposed to brush off this insane event because, you know, it would be hypocritical to claim it's all outrageous.

not supposed to brush off anything at all...I am not defending what the terrorists did in any way...hope they got shot in the balls with a big caliber...

but I am wondering what kind of person would print a comic that caused the death of 200 people last time, keeping in mind that the comic has no value whatsoever other than the troll factor...

I am trying to envision the type of person I would have to be to put my broke ass views before the lives of protentially 100-s of people...

then the journalistic community, who had a field day with this whole thing, spreading fear and paranoia about the acts of a few crazy nutjobs...making $$$ on it since the first time it happend in 2005 when the riots broke out over the danish version....

it is strange to me how people do not see the utter iresponsibility in printing it again...

the human condition man. You've seen "saving private ryan", right? that movie was a success mostly because the theme rang true, it's human nature to sacrifice 5-6 guys to save 1 guy.
there's no fairness, no equality, nosense to life/civilizations man. you know that, you just have a overly harsh way of sharing that.

look, regardless, I think we can all agree that the entire event was horrendous. NO! People should not treat others like that, mocking them, making fun of them for profit, etc. yes, they make themselves targets. Yes, it's foolish, childish, and certainly is lowbrow and cheap.

but.

FUCKING BUT. !!!

What happened in reaction to that so far eclipses that. you know this too.

You know this too, it's 2015, people are going to make outrageous claims and cartoons and wtfever to get noticed. ONly cute girls on instagram can do that with cats. these guys do it with a truly outrageous act of barbarity.

that said, I also find it absolutely horrible that 4 more people died in getting these guys. and these ones had nothing to do with anything, I don't know who killed them for certain but it's my understaing they died in the police assault of the grocery store.

The were killed because the were Jewish

As always, thank you for the idiot's opinion.

Political cartoons, insulting ones included, have been a part of the world for centuries, during peace time and war. Normal human beings recognize them as part of the culture. World leaders including the Pope get lampooned. You don't see Catholics hunting down cartoonists and killing them. Because Catholics live in 2015 not 715.

When your country is a theocracy don't be surprised when your religious leaders are portrayed as clowns the same way presidents and prime ministers are portrayed as clowns. There is no other religion that teaches its' followers to murder non-believing blasphemers in the name of God.

The only thing I'll agree with is that knowing what fucking lunatics these people are you should be aware that insulting them may come at a very dear price, your life. So if I were a cartoonist I may avoid offending them because I value my life and dying at the hands of such brainless idiots would be such a retarded way to go out.

well, that's shitty. I hadn't read that. They might as well have been killed for being black eh.

OP..Is this what they refer to as Taqiyya?

congrats on that video...nice peice of "journalism"...its hard to find a video that is wrong in the very 1s second :1orglaugh

"all muslims think stoning is ok"

I had to stop the video at 0:02 LOL

so 1.5billion people think stoning is ok? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you guys are such victims of the media its sad to watch...those charlie guys have you scared like little girls :1orglaugh

i know their work for years, they had some bad stuff published, i never like them, but its not reason to kill anyone

Shows how open-minded YOU are. You didn't even bother to watch it all and see what all of it was about.

there are like 45 islamic countries total and of those 45 maybe 5 have stoning...

in those 5 that have stoning, it is rare and not as the media portrays it...it is a horrible thing, no argument against this, done by stupid shit heads, no argument at all, but it does not happen as much as the western media likes to $ay

the other 40 countries it is simply not reality...

I am not muslim I am eastern euro atheist and do not give a crap about allah jesus or spiderman...

You totally missed the point and I assume you still haven't watched the video. Anyway, it's not the first time I've been exposed to the fact that you can't carry out a FACTUAL argument.

You accuse US of being brainwashed by the media and generalizing based on what they tell us. Yet, at the same time, YOU keep pulling arguments out of your ass, telling us how benevolent Islam is, based on YOUR experience. The experience of ONE SINGLE PERSON. At least we, the brainwashed haters, have sources to refer to. Where are yours?

the video is wrong in the very 1st second :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ALL MUSLIMS THINK STONING IS OK :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dude...mulims make up 1/4 of humanity...there are 45 muslim countries and only 5 are fucked up...

your video is the intelectual equivalent of : ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE KKK :1orglaugh

your "source" of info is making $$$ on your fear :2 cents:

Moron, watch the whole fucking video and see why that caption is used at the very beginning. Surely your attention span can last about four minutes?

Pre-judging a book based on its cover only says that you can't be assed to take in any info, thus making you just as stupid as you claim the rest of us are.

That much I agree with :2 cents:

ok I watched the video carefully here is a list of problems I have with it maybe you care to comment?

1) "muslim peace conference" was organized by an obvious non moderate (***how do I know this? glad you asked :) look at point #2) and his crowd was made up of immigrants and refugees, a vital point I will address in #4

2) stoning is not in the quran this is from the international quranic center (they know better than BBC :thumbsup )

The Stoning Myth

also:
QuranicPath | Stoning to Death: A Violation of the Qur'an
Stoning to Death does not appear in the Qur?an
The Stoning of Women: Quranic Prescription or Barefaced Misogyny?Âha|ÂhaDr. David Liepert

***why do I believe this? glad you asked look at point #3 but keep in mind that claiming that stoning is in the quran hugely discredits every further word he says...it is a HUGE deal if he is any sort of imam or whatever...it makes a HUGE difference in defining his position as a "moderate" or extremist

3) what the obvious non moderate is saying is in complete contradiction to what I have personally discussed with moslems around the world...I can interview the local imam for you if you wish we can arrange for say 1000$ escrow to some board veteran? or how ever much you feel like losing...you deposit 1000$ ill deposit 1000$ and winner take all?

do not take this bet :2 cents::1orglaugh you gotta have a mosque in your town go and ask first then take the bet later :2 cents::2 cents:

4) the crowd consists of deeply religious muslims (not the same as radical muslims)...being deeply religious does not always equate to intelligence keep this in mind it is a vital point...

the problem-----> muslims consider the quran infallible...ask any muslim "IF the quran says *so and so* do you agree?" and you will always get the same answer "YES" (notice the bolded caps IF)

muslims believe in the quran without limit, reason or question...this does not necessarily mean that they know what is ACTUALLY in it...the crowd is made up of mostly refugees and immigrants from war torn 3rd world countries, they are not exactly free thinkers :2 cents: they do not really represent 1/4 of humanity and you know this ...

5) the video never shows the actual public looking at the actual speaker...one can not tell that they are in the same room at all, or that the crowd is actually raising its hand to the actual questions being asked...

it is a fair point...considering the whole video from the very non-legit sounding name of the event to the flat out lie in the 1st second, to the flat out lie about stoning being in the quran, to the fact that the audience is made up of immigrants who, for all we know, do not even speak english and are raising their hands because others are?? keep in mind this is in norway not england :1orglaugh


travel the world a bit...educate yourself...do not be a backwards xenophobe :2 cents:

Aren't most muslims deeply religious to begin with? Agreed, that doesn't equate to intelligence. :)

Right. So proof of inferior intelligence and lack of education, at best.

So people who apparently were smart enough to get the fuck out of Dodge and settle elsewhere are also stupid? Then I can only imagine what those who couldn't leave are like...

Valid point, no argument here.

Now let's ponder this:

Application of sharia law by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the same article, some 423 million people live in "Countries where Sharia applies in full, covering personal status issues as well as criminal proceedings." That's around 6.5% of the world's population.

So roughly 1/4 of Muslim countries/regions apply Sharia in full. That's quite a few more than the handful of countries you claim to be doing so. And that's not even considering the groups in other Muslim countries, who want full Sharia enforced in their own country.

But I'm sure they're all intelligent, tolerant and peaceful people, just like you're claiming they are. :thumbsup

@damagex

shariah is a moral code, you are not educated so I understand you confusion...its like the 10 commandments it does not always have judicial power

Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Sharia Law is a significant source of legislation in various Muslim countries, namely Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Brunei, United Arab Emirates and Qatar."

they fail to mention Avghanistan where there is an actual Shariah court. Avghanistan=fucked no contest close to 1000 stonings/year happen but the US playground is in turmoil mostly because the US keeps bombing them back to the stone age and no progress can happen during war anyway. Im sure its the muslims fault the USA keeps invading left and right :1orglaugh note that the stonings happen to everybody not just women..

In Brunei, UAE and Quatar, the stonings are legal but not used.

In other countries where stoning happens, it is done outside of the official judicial system by backwards idiots and they are mostly isolated incidents. I would not be surprised to hear one day about stoning in Europe but its still isolated just like murder with, for example, a knife, is in the west...

it is not as you think it is...it is extremely hard to prove adultery in the first place...just like in a western court it is hard to prove murder and get somebody sent to death row...I do not approve of physical punishment of any kind, but it really does not happen like you think...

What part of "Countries where Sharia applies in full, covering personal status issues as well as criminal proceedings" is beyond your comprehension abilities?

Your link claims just 2 countries have full sharia *they forgot Avghanistan*
"Classical sharia systems are those where sharia plays dominant role and is present in most areas of a nation's legal system. Saudi Arabia and Iran are examples of classical sharia system"

The rest that apply it:
Sudan (stoning)
Mauritania (whipping)
Brunei (Whipping)
Iraq (Whipping)
Iran (Stoning)
Pakistan (Fully illegal to stone somebody, happens but arrests follow)
Quatar (Whipping)
Saudi Arabia (Stoning)
Yemen (Firing squad)
UAE (extremely rare)


in the USA 10.000 people kill each other with guns every year and that probably beats all these countries combined save for Avghanistan...

your case consists of like 5 countries total and in those 5 countries it is extremely hard to get stoned to death just like it is hard to be put on death row in the USA...

you are ignorant and xenophobic...the joke is on you LOL

You are apparently illiterate.

So there you have 11 countries/regions, with a combined population of ~423 million. 10 of them explicitly provide for death penalty for hudud/hadd crimes. 8 of these provide for stoning to death for certain hudud/hadd crimes.

But I'm sure you've traveled to all these countries and witnessed the intelligence, tolerance and peacefulness of their people. Surely I'm the uneducated and ignorant one, since I'm apparently dumb enough to reference to facts. Yep, the joke's on me. :)

dude can you count and comprehend?

mauritania=flagleation this is whipping
brunei="eventually prescribe sharia punishments" No known executions have occurred in Brunei since 1957.
malidives=you have to be kidding right? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
pakistan=fully illegal, shariah is only a moral code not judicial want to bet?
quatar= a search of Amnesty reports does not confirm any execution since 2000,
aceh=AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH indonesia? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
UAE= [6] we did not find any reports of any recent execution by stoning in an Emirate.

Death Penalty Worldwide (cornell university)

so you do in fact have, like I claimed, ok less than I claimed 4 countries I said 5 :1orglaugh

Holy shit, you are thick... I pity you.

your ignorance is obvious...

I can't help but wonder whether you're an idiot for real or you just play one on GFY. Arguing with you is like arguing with a dog, no matter how many relevant facts you bring up it just barks back the same way. You can't read, you can't count, you can't spell. So I'm leaning towards the former. Anyway, I've wasted enough time on you. As I already said in a different post, I sincerely hope you don't breed.

you never presented any "facts" you posted a bullshit video, backed up with your stunning ignorance about world events, you made it painfully clear that you have never been anywhere outside of the western world in your entire life :1orglaugh when I offered that you put your money where your mouth is you, of course, went silent :1orglaugh

arguing with a dog? nice you noticed...the way I debate with you is like training a dog...it goes not get it the first few times so you have to repeat LOL although its more out of amusement, you watch the dog being silly and stuff and it brings a smile to your face :thumbsup

now be a good boy and fetch me some new things to poke you with, one day you will understand that nobody is out to get you :1orglaugh