actually, you have to dig into the specific code, that's just a quick reference guide,

here's the specifics:

1.4.2 Complete Address Elements
A complete delivery address includes:

a. Addressee name or other identifier and/or firm name where applicable.

DMM 602 Addressing


I've just proven this to myself via my stamps account. I created a domestic mailing label without a recipient just fine but when I went to create an international label without a recipient, it would not let me.

:)

this is a customs declaration requirement. someone has to declare the package as their's/

will it let you with just a forename?

that's a recipient. if they need to collect the duty and fred abdullah is not at that addy to pay the duty tax, then that package is not delivered.

right, and I'm the recipient. If they send to 'jel' and I'm uncontactable to send the duty to them, the package is not delivered. you've lost me somewhat :)

I just checked that, it assumes 1 word is a business name and puts it in the business name field and leaves the personal name fields blank. Which makes sense, if a business is importing items, it's the business responsible for the duty tax, not necc specific person, so just the business needs to be alerted of the duty.

not sure what you're lost on. the only thing I'm saying is USPS doesn't require a recipient name. UK customs does.

nah, uk customs doesn't, to the point of requiring a surname (the no name at all in the UK was just an aside in the OP) :) any duty owed, they keep the original package, and send a generic invoice to the name stated, and the address. I send payment, then get the package :thumbsup

obviously with actual goods that need duty paid, ie any actual purchase, it's highly unlikely the label wouldn't have a full name due to the way you have to enter shipping/billing details, but quite likely you'd have 'Mr. J Smith' or whatever, and I've had stuff sent from abroad to the UK without my full name as the addressee. Jel being the 'name or identifier' I guess.

so the label just shows

name
address

right, as if it was handwritten? So joe schmoe down at the post office has no idea whether the label left the personal name fields blank, and it printed out a business name, surely?

a) how the fuck did this thread get so involved lol
b) still seems a really dumb 'rule'; unenforceable, prone to error, and ultimately down to whether john got head or jane is due her period :upsidedow

^ sorry not 'unenforceable', I meant the other word I'm too tired to think of right now (change it to 'shitty' for the time being) :thumbsup

the mystery of the mail!

http://twistedsifter.files.wordpress...s-seinfeld.jpg

lol :1orglaugh

"posh"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just messin' with ya. It's a stupid rule, welcome to one of many we have here in the US. :)

so we're knock-knocking on it being on account of a rogue delivery cunt ?

i'm in.

TBH every time I've done a recorded mail, it's always needed name, number & postcode, even in the UK :2 cents:

I receive mail for a variety aliases and company names. My mailman doesn't give a shit. He also doesn't seem to mind the fact that I constantly toss junk mail and that stupid, fucking blue plastic-wrapped magazine on my porch floor or the side lawn. He just keeps delivering. :thumbsup

Jel, you are as posh as my asshole. :1orglaugh COYS!

Mine got sent from Spain. Seems odd the UK ones didn't aswell.

Natalie - yeah, with recorded/signed stuff you need to put a name, though again, a surname isn't required

UW - lol (and COYS!!!)

maybe they did, and I was right about being wrong about being sent from the US :)

dynamo - rogue uploader, I guess :1orglaugh