no you are not stating any facts at all. You're stating what you assume. WHich is made even worse because your assumption is based on a judgement call you made about what you assume is an assumption I made.

which side am i on?

I've reread the thread and decided to side with you two, this thread isn't anti big oil, it's PRO big oil!

right on crockett for pointing out another big win for big oil!

yay big oils.

pipelines!!

Y'all are right-

big oils are good.

http://priceofoil.org/content/upload.../big-oil-5.jpg

What I "assumed", there was no assumption on my part. You called him "anti-big oil. or even anti little oil".

You said that -- those were your words.

So nothing was assumed on my part :1orglaugh

at least I can participate in the thread topic. you just feel the need to drive-by with your judgement calls based on single posts.

so sure, I inferred from the smarmy title, what I know about crockett from debating with him for 6 years, and the fact that no big oil companies were involved in this that the thread was anti-big oil. I decided to tussle a bit with crockett for being a road warrior yet bitching about big oil.

in the meantime, you've only made the thread about me.

whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself.


yay big oil. I'm on their side with y'all now! woooooh00000000 oillllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

still waiting......which side am i on? since you want this thread to be about me and all. don't puss out now!

yay big oil

Not trying to insult you my friend, but your attitude seems to be, SEEMS to be, to just throw up your hands and do nothing, because you think that nothing can be done.

Is my very generalized assessment of you and your general position on things like this correct?

Just asking.

No, the bottled water industry is terrible too. The amount of pollution it is creating is a fucking disgrace. It is another example of profits - first, clean world - last.

Yes. And ?


And yet: Four years after BP oil spill, the hurt doesn?t go away






Dude...everything I heard about that indicated that BP was paying for pretty much everything.

I don't know if they paid the fuel for the Coast Guard boats to ride around or not. But again...just like the EPA, the Coast Guard is already being paid to patrol the coast. The taxpayers didn't get a tax hike to suddenly have to pay for that.[/QUOTE]

I don't know why you are trying to make this into a anti oil thing. I've said it many times that I'm not anti oil, but I pro responsibility for them having to pay for and clean up their messes not the tax payers.

Which leads me to the very obvious question.. Why is it you seem to think it ok that tax payers have to flip the bill for these spills? Why are you against these companies being fined when their actions due to negligence help destroy the environment leaving tax players to deal with the problems?

I'm all for "responsible big oil, not so much for negligent putting profits ahead of everything else big oil.. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?

Believe it or not, despite my big mouth, I'm not completely anti-oil either. If they would curb the pollution, clean up their mess, take responsibility etc etc, I'd be a happier camper.

What bugs me, is might be someone like Dyna Mo (not fighting with you, just asking), who seem to not care about it. I say SEEMS to not care. Waiting on clarification from Dyna on this. No fighting. Just waiting...

my core attitude is actions speak louder than words. the fact is I could yap on about my conservation efforts and blah blah all of that but you know what? all of that means bunk here. People don't change their minds here and they certainly don't change behaviors. I don't need to try and convince any gfyer to send a letter to their congressman re: carbon or not to flip their cigarette butts onto the sidewalks all while I wax on about how I good I am with that sort of shit. And I don't need any hi-5 attaboys for throwing away garbage in the bin or being on the "right" side of an argument. :)

moreover, I've mentioned many many times that the global warming argument gets in the way of curbing pollution. People get distracted by the politics of it and end up on talking points instead of taking action.

Besides, I think you can read between the lines and pick up certain things I slip in and deduce for yourself what my personal no-shit attitude is about it.

nevertheless, I'm not going to ruin my day because there are billions of water bottles being dumped, oil leaks, etc. I'm not getting emotionally involved in shit that other people need to sort out for themselves. I'm in control of me and that's it. Sure oil spills suck. Sure plastic pollution sucks. I'm doing something about it- I've changed my behavior and at places like gfy, I point out how silly the argument is.

again, I pointed out the dichotomy of your roadwarrior lifestyle and your bitching about big oil to the extreme you do. It's not hard to see.

Also, I think your argument is misplaced based on your comments here. Your issues lie with the government creating good regulations and enforcing them. Oil corps have to operate within the law while still working toward that bottomline. if they can skirt a regulation, they will. that's how business runs.

Your argument is misplaced. I'm stating that big oil shouldn't be skirting their responsibilities and having tax payers cover for them.

You know yourself that I'm right, but you won't agree with me because you might lose your Republican card therefore you are trying to argue about something completely unrelated. Sorry I know how that game works and it don't work with me. :error

my republican card? you are confusing conservation with conservative. Based on you bitching about big oil while you fill up your tank, I can understand the error.



but go on, fill us all in.

where in your OP did you claim all that?

refresher:

where in there is anything about big oil skirting responsibility and having tax payers pay?

You are trying way too hard to try to tell me what you think I think, when I jave already told you what I think. You need to think harder.

if you think so.

but yeah, i haven't put much thought into this. busted. :1orglaugh although i was making a solid suggestion. the best investment advice i ever received was to invest in products, people and services I use a lot.

you use gasoline a lot. I do too, most things that are fun require gasoline.

+ you can invest in some oil companies and have the right to vote on the direction the company is going.

my thinking was your efforts would be better placed there than here. I also mentioned you'll give yourself a heart attack concerning yourself like you do. that was nice of me to thoughtfully add that.

but, hey i need to put more thought into this, so scratch all that.

gofuckyourself.

ah, there ya go.

:1orglaugh

I must be that .1%

this thread is getting more interesting haha

Do you have hallusinations already?