Okay. Should you make this as a new amendment or something? This will fit well with the other Sharia rules. Or were you guys Christians?

What if the cop just says I didn't do as he said? Or did the Muhammed say "What the officer says is the law; Hammurabi by Muhammed 1233:33, second chapter."

You are right. There are two ways to handle the situation when a police officer is pointing their firearm at you. You can either do as they say or risk getting shot.

It's not open to discussion. At all. Ever. Period.

We are discussing about it already; you are just poor at discussion. And I am not even discussing with my mother language.

This discussion is also about what the officer does; you know, there is the officer and the other guy, unless the officer is pointing himself.

You are completely wrong. Deadly force is not supposed to be used when met with deadly force. Instead, deadly force is used when "the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them".

Was the officer's life in danger? Of course it was. There was an armed man in a car refusing to relinquish his weapon and refusing to obey ANY order of the officer after multiple warnings.

Are you one of those jihadi dudes?

You are right, the people around the officer were in immediate danger; one died.

Also about the options; in other countries police will just deal with the situation. Usually without killing anyone. It is this US bullshit to solve things by killing. It is because of the culture where human life is not valued. Unless the value part means overpriced healthcare.

I thought that you are. You sound like one.

I hope two black guys skullfuck you in a dark alley and two cops see this but the black guys skullfucking you have "their hands in the air" and cops just walk awy

If you are Muslim that is cool by me , I have muslim friends but it seems you are one of those extrmist trouble making types :2 cents:

aka 123 where are you from btw? does not seem you live in the US.... maybe the police by you are different that the ones here

Your English isn't nearly as good as you think it is.

Rochard i think I am just getting older but many years ago when i was young was I a idiot like these new inbreds on here?

Thank you for this statement, it is very Christian or something. Love to you too.

By the way, I haven't said that police shouldn't do its job, quite opposite. I just don't think that it's polices job to shoot people.

Then I will blend in nicely.

I am Jewish btw


if there life is in danger what do you expect them to do??????????????

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No shit Sherlock.

There are coordinates below my nickname. Our police is surely different.

Jews have some Hammurabi shit?

I expect police to deal with the situation. Use your imagination. They have legs to stand back, kick, run, or what ever. Hands to hit, use batton, use taser, get a grip, use pepper spray, and so on.

For example in that situation the police could have taken a step back and wait for what happens/ to assess the situation well. In that situation the officers life was in danger (little danger) and he is hired to take risks/ put his life in danger. He is in a wrong job if he can't take that. The guy said he is coming out of the vehicle. It was not surprise, the officer could just have let him come out of the vehicle.

Danger has scales too, it is not safe vs. immediate danger for life.

that explains your sheer stupidity

Let us know how this works out for your people, homie. :1orglaugh

I guess that you will win this year's conversationalist award. Bye, bye.

yes you are

The older we get, the wiser we get. It's called "wisdom".

When I was younger I was all about "fuck the police" and I thought I was targeted because I was "younger". What you don't understand when you are 23 is that the police aren't targeting you because you are a kid, the are targeting you because you just blew through a school zone at 45 mph.

Now I'm 46 and I want the police to be my neighbor. (In fact, the guy across the street is a highway patrol officer.)

I think in a situation where a felon has a gun, yes do as your told or get shot. They don't draw their weapons on people who are complying.

I have never seen in person a police offer draw his gun, and my best friend is married to a police officer of 20 years and he has only had to draw his gun TWICE.

IF in those two times he felt his life was threatened what is he going to do in that situation? Bargain with the dude? Look wishy washy? He's trained to make a split decision his life or criminals. In this case the bad guy lost.

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LOL yeah because only you could come up with a video like that? If you really could do such a thing you could send it to others and it would be uploaded all over the world.

Be dead LOL

If such a tape could be made it would be worth big bucks too but you are just saving your life right? You are a fucking tool

Yes, he should "bargain" with the dude, he is police, not cowboy. In working western legal systems criminals are convicted in a court and once they have done their sentence, they have done it. Not following orders is not that big crime at least around here that you would get death sentence for it. Although we don't have death sentence at all. Last examples were deserters during war (WWII).

Feeling "threatened" is no reason to kill. So fucking subjective with so many tones.

By the way, the officers suspected that the guy had a gun. Did he really have a gun, or are you just assuming so?

An officer not in any danger can choke to death a weaponless, innocent man on the street, have him lie there unconscious, not give him CPR while waiting there 7 minutes for an ambulance, as he dies in public view with people recording the incident, and not be indited. What the officer did was deemed legally acceptable.

To me this isn't a racial issue, or a "cops suck" issue, this is a public policy issue that America is facing regarding what the boundaries are for our public servants. I'm pro cop and pro civilian.

Not exactly.

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Well said.

The ONLY reason it isn't a race issue is because they were both black. Otherwise, even though he's a convicted felon known by police, with a gun, NOT complying, of course it would be because he was black and none of the other circumstances relevant.

He REALLY had a gun. When they opened the glove box to get the ID's out...the gun was there. The police officer immediately drew his weapon, took the gun out of the glove box and then the guy would not keep his hands where he can see them...if you WATCH the video, you will see the man FORCE open the door - HARD because the cop was holding it shut practically begging him not to open the door. What's he going to do, put his gun away and grab his taser? Who has time for that shit when you're dealing with criminals in a bad section of town!

Now if I look at my kid and I say if you don't clean your room this minute I am going to spank your butt, and my kid doesn't go clean her room, what kind of parent am I to not follow through? Do I now bargain with my unruly child who isn't listen? No, I follow through on what I said I was going to do because that's what you're SUPPOSED to do.

He's not a negotiator, he's a police officer whose life WAS in danger! ANY time you walk up to regular traffic stop, your life IS in danger! Every day you put that uniform on your life is in danger. Any time you do NOT comply with authority, your life is in danger.

Just to lighten the mood, I really love this song. Fuck the PO PO!
Obviously I dont know how to put in youtube videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUpWUt5ZngE

So, you are saying that if you threaten to shoot someone as a police, you have to shoot, to keep your credibility? Maybe you shouldn't be a police. Or if you fear your life being in a danger. This isn't about cleaning room, it is about someone's life, the only life he will get.

Police is supposed to take risks, and it means beyond than just being police. Using minimal force is the starting point in here (in my country); it doesn't mean shooting unarmed man 6 times. What the fuck is about the 6 times anyways? Isn't one time enough? So fucking messed up police culture around there.

I already suggested what the police should have done; step back. I mean literally. One step back. Instead he shot 6 times (or his friend too) a guy who was coming out of a car. As that was the situation; guy came out of his car. He even told he is going to come out of the car.

there is a Youtube button when you reply, just insert the code after v= from the Youtube URL

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The guy that was shot was the passenger.. The gun was in the center console. What makes you think it was the passenger's gun?

He was the passenger, perhaps he didn't know there was a gun in the car until the center console was opened. Do you own any guns? Have you ever carried a gun in your car? Did you make a point of telling everyone whom ever rode in your car that you had a gun in the car?

I never said it was the passengers gun, but it was in the glove box in front of the passenger side door (not center console). He's a convicted felon with a gun IN FRONT of him. Whether it's his or not who cares? It's there and a threat.

We can figure out who it belongs to after everyone complies and does what they are told.

Ahhhh Thank you deary.