why always resort to personal insults - you cannot stay civil?

Korelev - russian father, ukrainian mother, born in the Ukraine - later colonel in the red army - before that begging to Stalin to relieve him from the Gulag where he was put for allegedly mismanaging money

Von Braun - member of the SS - obviously not one of those that executed people personally but for sure someone who didn't care that others did and didn't care what happened around him and how many people died as long as he could play with his rockets

this is actually not a contest who is the better person - we're just stating facts - and fact is that both the US and Russia plundered the German rocket program after the war for personnel and material

Sorry, personal insults to whom? To Von Braun? Don't you agree that he was an SS Nazi scum?

to me - as it has become usual for you by now - for insinuating i am stupid in almost every post towards me

Defense mechanism of stupids :2 cents:

When exactly I called you stupid? You have posted a link to an article which said that some German engineers were working for Moscow. Is it something new or what? Why did you post it? I bet there were captive Soviet (and not only) engineers who worked for Von Braun on his V-2 rockets (you know, the SS scum has personally picked captives to work for him). Does it change anything?

P.S. As about Soviet rocket technologies. Famous Katyusha was made in 1939 and w/o German engineers.

and ze germans would not have embraced and advanced rocketry if it were not for Robert Goddard.

:winkwink:

In the spring of 1945, Goddard saw a captured German V-2 ballistic missile, in the naval laboratory in Annapolis, Maryland, where Goddard had been working under contract. The unlaunched rocket had been captured by the US Army from the Mittelwerk factory in the Harz mountains, and samples began to be shipped by Special Mission V-2 on 22 May 1945.[61]

After a thorough inspection, Goddard was convinced that the Germans had "stolen" his work.

examples ?

https://sidfernando.files.wordpress....nd-putin-2.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...ny_140412g.jpg

^ This is one of the examples, actually :2 cents:

like i said - start talking civil to me and not in this condescending tone and we can discuss

the way you talk to me above? not interested

dosvedanya

you posted a picture of putin and jews (i guess to demonstrate something), so i posted a picture of putin and muslims, to demonstrate the opposite.
I guess that the economy of russia is better (at least) now that it was with eltsine, i'm not a fan of putin, but i don't see a proof that he tries to destroy russia

You've got it wrong. It was to demonstrate my suspicions about CIA or Mossad. It has nothing to do with Jews or Muslims as religion groups.

Only because the oil price was very high all the past time.

and yes, the economy of russia is based on oil and gas and not on technologies (if you except weapons) and that's why the rubble is so low...
Also if someone leaves russia to go elsewhere, it means that russia is unable to keep its scientists (just like Albert Einstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia under nazi germany)

so you see a picture of putin and jews and it demonstrates that putin is linked with the mossad or cia (why cia ?) ?

Also why would he want to destroy russia ?

Not Russia as a country, but our corrupted government headed by Putin.

Have no idea, but everything he does, is directed against the interests of my country.

Why do you ask this? Can't you see until now he is German and nazi sympathizer, just like his eastern european colleague from Finland ?

a very serious and heartfelt go fuck yourself

(and next time when we meet please don't talk to me)

i don't really understand your answer, you can be corrupted without being linked to the mossad and you can be a corrupted president and rule for the good of your country... you are just more like a ...king than a president.
Also, you don't know how is used the money stolen by corruption.
In france, politics use often the money to pay political campaigns, not to have a bigger car... It doens't means that it is acceptable or legal, it is just underground.

he is far to sound like a nazi for me...

Von Braun had no choice, you just didn't turn down an invitation/order from the Third Reich to join the SS. If you did you may have been signing your own death warrant at any point down the road. He was arrested, jailed and interrogated by the Gestapo as it was.

The U.S. and Russia were in a race to get the best of the German scientists for fear that if they didn't the other country would - and they would have. Most went to the U.S., after what Germany did to Russia they rightfully were scared shitless how the Russians would treat them.

you invented nothing:
Hwacha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, should I use the <sarcasm> tags again? :) When I use them, people think I call them stupid, when I don't use them, nobody understands my sarcasm. Course I don't think that Putin is a regular CIA or Mossad agent (he's too rich to be one). However he really acts like he is working for another country. His money are on the West, his daughters live there too. He hasn't done anything positive for Russia. So it looks like he can pack his suitcase and leave Russia at any moment.

Isn't he under embargo ?

Course not. Why do you ask?

we have never met..statement is based on your posts until now, nothing more.
http://s5.postimg.org/9pyhh74oj/nazi.png
Maybe I am wrong, sorry, and because of that I've left helmet without insignia. Anyway, if you can't handle jokes of this type, I will remove this funny picture immediately.

This surely is "interesting" thread. By the way, why you named that pic as nazi? This might otherwise be even funny (not the pic; you), but Google can actually bring his picture if someone googles nazi. That is not funny anymore.

you are completely in right. I will remove that picture now.

http://i.imgur.com/ByAlwD5.png

But named the pic nazi.png :1orglaugh

http://s5.postimg.org/9pyhh74oj/nazi.png

I love when comrade Sputnik gets all defensive :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I like the Russians sense of humor, a lot like Americans in that regard :thumbsup

Sorry for bumping your old post, but what did you want to say there? Ukrainians are not Russians anymore or what? The Ukraine as a country exists since 1991 only. All the time before it was just a part of Soviet Union and Russian Empire. Just like Dresden citizens are so Germans as the ones from Berlin. Don't confuse citizens of Russian Federation with ethnic Russians. Ukrainians and Belorussians are ethnic Russians but they live in independent countries. On the other hand, Chechens or Finno-Ugric people are Russian citizens, but they are not Russians (I mean the ethnicity). When speaking of the USSR times, your statement loses any sense at all, because all Soviet republics were included into the USSR. So both Korolev's parents were from Russian Empire - not from Russian Federation or Ukraine.

Very embarassing :)

LOL @ the US education crew :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ask any european that has been to US primary or middle school: the education is a joke!

you feel like you were put back a few years :1orglaugh

I am not saying that harvard sucks...far from it, it well may be the best university in the world for a tiny tiny percent of privileged and/or talented people...

but to call US education good? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTG4toZtg4c

lol @ putin face

this is really shit

it goes 100km/h

Im pretty damn sure any mid-level state university like Ball State would supersede some International institute of textile technology of Odessa

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

how exactly do you figure this?

knowledge is confined to the boundaries of USA? the USA has some sort of monopoly on knowledge or the ability to pass it on? people who are not 'merican lack the capacity to gain knowledge?

define "Better"...has better looking parking? :1orglaugh has Ipad4 not shitty Ipad3? :1orglaugh

I know everything american is better because it is "american" and "bacon" and I can not help a brainwashed person open his eyes...american education is the same as american health care I am sure a very very very small part of it is top notch if you have $$$$$$$$$ I will leave you with a health care example, the same principle applies:

http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aypgjoM_700b.jpg