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AmeliaG 02-09-2015 12:28 PM

50 people wanking about partisanship when they should be discussing solutions to actual societal issues.

crockett 02-09-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20387887)
I've always said that Obamacare and Romneycare are the same thing. People uninterested in real social change tend to end any critique of the Obama administration by asking whether Romney would have been better, like there are no other options.

ACA is egregious corporate welfare and most Democrats and Republicans in 2015 serve their corporate sponsors.

I would have preferred a single payer solution, that was the best option. Obamacare is a shit compromise which Democrats did in order to appease Republicans. The original plan was a single payer plan and Obama caved to Republicans by trying to compromise and get them on board and we ended up with what we have now.

crockett 02-09-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387949)
I agree that democrats have done nothing in the 114th congress other than obstruct progress

Democrats filibuster DHS spending bill, block GOP on amnesty debate.
Democrats filibuster DHS spending bill, block GOP on amnesty debate - Washington Times


filibuster the DHS budget bill 3x in a row? all while BO complains:

The way the filibuster is used ?almost ensures greater gridlock and less clarity in terms of the positions of the parties. There?s nothing in the Constitution that requires it,? Obama said in the interview published Monday



Read more: Barack Obama: Get rid of routine use of legislative filibuster - POLITICO

Democrats are the minority, you claimed in the past, that the minorities job was to obstruct. Is that now different? Are you wearing flip flops or something or do you just make stuff up to support your team?

crockett 02-09-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388024)
50 people wanking about partisanship when they should be discussing solutions to actual societal issues.

You mean like trying ban abortions? Which was the first bill Republicans brought forward after they were elected..

directfiesta 02-09-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387699)
~80 republican sponsored bills already introduced into the 114th congress while only ~25 democratic sponsored bills have been introduced

http://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/4f/c2...-1-graphic.png

not sure when and where you went to school, but it was weak in maths ...

If you add up the numbers from your above graph, you get :

Republicans : 74 ( you say ~80 )
Democrats : 56 ( you say ~25 )

Curious on your method to round up figures .... :1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-09-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388175)
not sure when and where you went to school, but it was weak in maths ...

If you add up the numbers from your above graph, you get :

Republicans : 74 ( you say ~80 )
Democrats : 56 ( you say ~25 )

Curious on your method to round up figures .... :1orglaugh

umm, dickhead. At least I went to school.

Here, I splain it to you, you stupid mother fucker.

I eyeballed the numbers, thus the tildas. The fact you fail at grasping is I included the graphic for specifics. If I were submitted an actual paper in school I would scrutinize the minutia for any dickhead classmates who can't figure shit out on their own.

the obvious fact from the graphic and my generalized comment along with it to adults who actually did go to school is the republicans introduced more bills.

you miserable dumbfuck.

dyna mo 02-09-2015 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388157)
Democrats are the minority, you claimed in the past, that the minorities job was to obstruct. Is that now different? Are you wearing flip flops or something or do you just make stuff up to support your team?

I've never claimed any such thing.

keep dodging and deflecting though, it's a good look for you.

dyna mo 02-09-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388175)
not sure when and where you went to school, but it was weak in maths ...

If you add up the numbers from your above graph, you get :

Republicans : 74 ( you say ~80 )
Democrats : 56 ( you say ~25 )

Curious on your method to round up figures .... :1orglaugh

here, try and learn something for once instead of just your usual mean-spirited drive-by dickhead shit

Quote:

The tilde (in English) informally means "approximately", such as: "~30 minutes before" meaning "approximately 30 minutes before". It can mean "similar to", including "of the same order of magnitude as", such as: "x ~ y" meaning that x and y are of the same order of magnitude. Another approximation symbol is ≈, meaning "approximately equal to" the critical difference being the subjective level of accuracy: ≈ indicates a value which can be considered functionally equivalent for a calculation within an acceptable degree of error, whereas ~ is usually used to indicate a larger, possibly significant, degree of error. The tilde is also used to indicate equal to, or approximately equal to by placing it over the "=" symbol.
miserable dumbfuck.

directfiesta 02-09-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388182)
here, try and learn something for once instead of just your usual mean-spirited drive-by dickhead shit



miserable dumbfuck.

FACT : you are so dumb .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just a glance at your graph and I saw that you were out completely .

So your ~ goes like this :

for democrats , ~ equals minus 53 %
for republicans, ~ equals plus 10 %

That gives a gap of 63 % ...

gotta love the educational system... or is it all the shit drugs your brain marinated in ?

dyna mo 02-09-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388192)
FACT : you are so dumb .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just a glance at your graph and I saw that you were out completely .

So your ~ goes like this :

for democrats , ~ equals minus 53 %
for republicans, ~ equals plus 10 %

That gives a gap of 63 % ...

gotta love the educational system... or is it all the shit drugs your brain marinated in ?


again, for the dumbfuck that can't read good:

"whereas ~ is usually used to indicate a larger, possibly significant, degree of error."

the fact you are trying to assail the US education system based on my gfy post where a ~ confused you is fucking hilarious though.

directfiesta 02-09-2015 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388280)
again, for the dumbfuck that can't read good:

"whereas ~ is usually used to indicate a larger, possibly significant, degree of error."

the fact you are trying to assail the US education system based on my gfy post where a ~ confused you is fucking hilarious though.

I never mentioned US education system ... but you just did.

I just mentionned ~ education which could be US as well as China, taking in consideration the " significant, degree of error." :1orglaugh

So, your '"significant, degree of error." fluctuated widely ( + 53% to - 10% ) , depending on the political party .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What makes you the most stupid poster in this thread if not in ~ the whole board, is your name calling when showed wrong and your persistence in spining the unspinnable ...

Have other things to do ... you win , you are the ~ most intelligent dumbfuck here .... :1orglaugh:pimp:)

Now go lube yourself for the next anal fuck...

PS: keep away from the drugs ... oups, I forgot, that is too late :1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-09-2015 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388306)
I never mentioned US education system ... but you just did.

I just mentionned ~ education which could be US as well as China, taking in consideration the " significant, degree of error." :1orglaugh

So, your '"significant, degree of error." fluctuated widely ( + 53% to - 10% ) , depending on the political party .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What makes you the most stupid poster in this thread if not in ~ the whole board, is your name calling when showed wrong and your persistence in spining the unspinnable ...

Have other things to do ... you win , you are the ~ most intelligent dumbfuck here .... :1orglaugh:pimp:)

Now go lube yourself for the next anal fuck...

PS: keep away from the drugs ... oups, I forgot, that is too late :1orglaugh

dear dumbfuck,

I attended school in the USA, not china, not Iran, not bumbfuck Egypt. I couldn't give 2 shits about schools in wherethefuckever else. You were attempting to insult education based on your not grasping what a fucking ~ is in casual conversation.

I'm calling you a fucking mean-spirited fuckwad dumbfuck because you had a choice of arguing the topic or pointing your piece of shit finger at someone and trying to insult.

you chose the later, not me. don't start crying now because you got yourself in over your fuckwad head.

dyna mo 02-09-2015 05:22 PM

Here, I'll show you what a fuckwad you are, I took the time to PRECISELY add up the #s so the text corresponds with the graphic, guess what fuckwad, my point's still valid.

fucking dickhead.



restated:

74 republican sponsored bills already introduced into the 114th congress while only 56 democratic sponsored bills have been introduced

http://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/4f/c2...-1-graphic.png



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AmeliaG 02-09-2015 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388153)
I would have preferred a single payer solution, that was the best option. Obamacare is a shit compromise which Democrats did in order to appease Republicans. The original plan was a single payer plan and Obama caved to Republicans by trying to compromise and get them on board and we ended up with what we have now.

I would have preferred single payer as well. Either single payer or free market would have been better than the corporate welfare we got.

As not a single Republican voted for ACA, it is nonsense to say that they are responsible for Democrats not giving us what we wanted.

If you keep voting for people who don't care what you want, you will have the government you deserve.

AmeliaG 02-09-2015 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388159)
You mean like trying ban abortions? Which was the first bill Republicans brought forward after they were elected..

This is exactly what I mean. If you want to discuss abortion as an issue, that might be useful.

Complaining that someone you didn't vote for is promoting an agenda you disagree with is pointless. Who cares what team jersey they are wearing?

kane 02-09-2015 05:44 PM

Does it really matter who has sponsored more bills? What matters is that quality bills gets sponsored that can pass the house and senate and get signed by the president and actually do good for the country.

It is a quality over quantity thing.

dyna mo 02-09-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20388344)
Does it really matter who has sponsored more bills? What matters is that quality bills gets sponsored that can pass the house and senate and get signed by the president and actually do good for the country.

It is a quality over quantity thing.

none of this matters. it's gfy, you know that. shit happens IRL, not here.

but to your point, I posted that primarily to counterpoint the OP, there has been legislation passed. and things are moving, in fact, 1 bill per month is more passed than the previous congress. There has also been legislation introduced. Both of which were counterpoints. this is a point-counterpoint thread right? seems that way.

but quantity does matter. [In]effective congress is gauged by how many bills they pass.

Robbie 02-09-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388350)
but quantity does matter. [In]effective congress is gauged by how many bills they pass.

Bills = Laws

Don't we have ENOUGH laws already? I'd like to see them all go back home (like our founding fathers intended) and work a real job.
I personally would like to see LESS laws.

Congress should only be convened to pass a budget, necessary legislation, and in times of emergency.

All of this bullshit of passing bill after bill is just attempts to funnel money to their cronies and/or to get face time on cable news networks so they can get re-elected over and over and over.

dyna mo 02-09-2015 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20388355)
Bills = Laws

Don't we have ENOUGH laws already? I'd like to see them all go back home (like our founding fathers intended) and work a real job.
I personally would like to see LESS laws.

Congress should only be convened to pass a budget, necessary legislation, and in times of emergency.

All of this bullshit of passing bill after bill is just attempts to funnel money to their cronies and/or to get face time on cable news networks so they can get re-elected over and over and over.

I was wondering if you were going to pick up on that metric. Unfortunately, the standard of measurement seems to be quantity. Perhaps because quality is harder to measure. But also, it is congress' primary job to pass legislation.

TCLGirls 02-09-2015 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388341)
I would have preferred single payer as well. Either single payer or free market would have been better than the corporate welfare we got.

As not a single Republican voted for ACA, it is nonsense to say that they are responsible for Democrats not giving us what we wanted.

If you keep voting for people who don't care what you want, you will have the government you deserve.

Have you found a doctor yet who is willing to accept your cash payments? Just wondering.

AmeliaG 02-09-2015 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20388426)
Have you found a doctor yet who is willing to accept your cash payments? Just wondering.

What are you talking about? Almost all doctors accept cash patients.

TCLGirls 02-09-2015 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388458)
What are you talking about? Almost all doctors accept cash patients.

Didn't you once say that your regular doctor quit and that you did not know how to find a new doctor in LA?

I asked you how you plan to pay for your doctor visits, and you said "cash". So then I gave you a link that shows the contact information for available doctors in LA.

So now I am wondering if you ever were able to find a doctor that accepts your method of payment.

AmeliaG 02-10-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20388575)
Didn't you once say that your regular doctor quit and that you did not know how to find a new doctor in LA?

I asked you how you plan to pay for your doctor visits, and you said "cash". So then I gave you a link that shows the contact information for available doctors in LA.

So now I am wondering if you ever were able to find a doctor that accepts your method of payment.


While I appreciated the link, there is no need to make it personal. Yes, ACA has sucked for me, but the only interesting and useful discussion is a general one.

You do know that "cash patient" is just medical admin jargon for someone who pays directly, instead of using insurance, right? Nobody is walking into doctors' offices and pulling greenbacks out of a briefcase.

uno 02-10-2015 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388153)
I would have preferred a single payer solution, that was the best option. Obamacare is a shit compromise which Democrats did in order to appease Republicans. The original plan was a single payer plan and Obama caved to Republicans by trying to compromise and get them on board and we ended up with what we have now.

It's the first real move in almost 50 years to do something about healthcare. That's at least a step in the right direction. Harry Reid totally pussed out on single payer to try to get republican votes he didn't need to get it out of committee.

TCLGirls 02-10-2015 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20389090)
While I appreciated the link, there is no need to make it personal. Yes, ACA has sucked for me, but the only interesting and useful discussion is a general one.

You do know that "cash patient" is just medical admin jargon for someone who pays directly, instead of using insurance, right? Nobody is walking into doctors' offices and pulling greenbacks out of a briefcase.

How did I make anything "personal"? You specifically asked me how to find a doctor because you did not know how to do that. In response, I gave you a list of doctors. So, I am just wondering if you were able to find one that meets your needs and payment preferences.


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