Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20394815)

Sorry, but I would have to go deep below my level to try to communicate with you, so your infantile comparison will remain unanswered , as I am concerned.

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20394822)

French nazis claim the same thing :winkwink:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20394717)

journal, magazines and books ?

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20394720)

No, I believe they are there. Otherwise, all those people there would end like those burned alive in Odessa . Problem is that there are no enough of them and they are playing absolutely same game NATO did in Yugoslavia. Lying while supporting one side. There is a good reason why NATO lied: they helped nazi lovers in ex YU, and muslim terrorists ,and they did it from countries miles away (including absolute supervision and support of real ethnic cleansing)

But Russians don't have to do it because nazis are on their own borders and there was attack on Russian population (language and existence). So , as I am concerned, they should invade on full scale and solve that shit fast and quick. If US can go thousands miles away, giving false info (for example WMD) and invade countries, why Russia don't to same. They have moral right ,at first place.

Maybe NATO is irritated because they are not able to provide real evidences, or because no one is believing in more lies after years of falsified excuses for war and devastation. But that is their problem. All this mess wouldn't look like that that NATO (US, because others are just puppets) didn't took Kosovo by force. Russia warned where it will lead, 15 years ago but no one listened.

All this are simple results of arrogance and disrespect of international laws that "west" did many years ago.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395076)

Nazis? Really, I hate to break it to you but the Nazi's were the invaders and those whom tried to "annex" other countries land.. Ukraine isn't the Nazi's.. Russia is the invader..

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between rolling tanks into someone land and stealing it, vs being asked to help.. The fact is Russia is irrelevant on the world stage and all the former soviet block countries understand this.

None of them want to be controlled by Russia hence the reason these countries keep coming to the west for help & trade. The west doesn't have to roll tanks into these countries, because they are already tired of Russia's shit and want something better.

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20394804)

because it's a good charge if you are looking for an excuse to attack someone.
In france, there is nazis everywhere: muslims are nazis, putin is nazi, left wing if nazi, right wing is nazi, someone who dare to claim something else that socialist= nazi and so on...
How many self proclaimed nazis in france ? once i heard something like 3000

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 20393802)

There are a lot of good American people, but it's sad to see a lot of dumb asses brained washed by cnn/fox/etc... Let's take a super easy simple example to understand with Canada:

Quebec (french) always want to separate from (English) Canada. Let's say Canada had Quebec born prime minister (let's call him president). Now, let's assume huge strike is going on and English side with weapons beats/burns police force in Ottawa, and they do armed take over of the parliament building. Then, this (English) armed group puts their people in charge of the country, and first they do is try to ban French language. Two questions:

1. How would USA react to this? would they support armed group who overthrew democratically elected president?(it doesn't matter that the president was corrupt, he was elected)
2. When English side would roll tanks/troops towards Quebec/Montreal, what would French people do? just accept it?
3. When English side would shell Montreal all day long killing regular people daily, would USA blame pro-french separatists for doing that?

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20395095)

Two options:

1. Your grandparents were nazis and that is why you have such strong support for their actions.

2. Some Ruskies fucked you hard and that is a reason you are full of anger toward them.

I am just trying to figure out what is from those two above because normal person can't say something like you just did above.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395166)

I have thought here...

Commies have ever seen a communist country where the people were not dirt poor & brainwashed?

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20395170)

actually, people from communist countries (but not N.Korea) - these days mostly FORMER communist countries, are very often less brainwashed and smarter than average US CITIZEN......

but about being poor - yes, its true....

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395251)

not forget about the civilian aircraft when Russian rebels boasted about shooting down even given the location of the wreckage location on Twitter, right up until it was found out to be a civilian airliner. Then suddenly they had nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 20394814)

no one is doing what peace treaty states.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20395532)

they did it by mistake. probably there was another plane (ukrainian military) flying close to that one

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395647)

Of Course they did it by mistake, but those people are still very dead and it was very much a war crime. Now news is coming out of dead Ukrainian solders whom were likely executed at the Donetsk airport. Once again another war crime committed by Russian backed Rebels or quite possible Russian solders themselves..

Video of frozen corpses with hands tied at Donetsk airport could be evidence of war crimes - watch on - uatoday.tv

Meanwhile our lovely GFY Putinbots will tell us it's all lies, call someone a Nazi and tell us the Rebels are just innocent farmers and solders on vacation with their tanks of course.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20395673)

from your link:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20395673)

from your link:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395677)

Nothing is conclusive proof until it's investigated and determined to be.. However it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out guys with head shots & hands tied behind their backs likely didn't die of old age...

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395647)

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Meanwhile our lovely GFY Putinbots will tell us it's all lies, call someone a Nazi and tell us the Rebels are just innocent farmers and solders on vacation with their tanks of course.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20395689)

obviously, you are not a brain surgeon !

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20395687)

Precisely. Idiotism. I can't believe there are still people believing in shit like that and didn't want even to answer to such childish comments.

Whole Racak "Massacre" was staged in similar manner and used as excuse to attack Serbia and invade Kosovo. Operation led by CIA operative Willam Walker. ( William Walker (diplomat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia))

Paste from wikipedia:

In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Yugoslav troops in the incident

Once you get through this shit (and many other staged stuff),you need to be serious idiot to believe in what you hear or see.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20394671)

You are trying to reverse the situation into something it's not. Your questions are irrelevant and hold no basis on the situation at hand.


The situation isn't the US arming Ukraine so Russia stepped in. The situation is Russia has invaded another country stolen part of it and is trying to take more by force. At the same time claiming to be doing nothing as if everyone else is idiots. Ukraine is "asking" for help to defend against Russia's aggression.

As for your other votes.. None of those were forced at gun point to vote for separation, with only 15% of the population voting in favor..


Stop being so fucking brainwashed.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395701)

There is one giant sized hole in your theory..

The video was not taken by Ukraine and shared with the media.. It was taken by Rebels whom were showing off the dead Ukraine solders they had killed.

Of course they are probably just Nazi actors, am I right? Everyone is just in on the big plot to make poor innocent peaceful Russians look bad because of NATO and evil Americans..

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 20395705)

man, your logic is of a 15 year old... When you say "Russia is trying to take more by force", can you answer me simple question?

1. Do you really think that if Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it would take them years to do it? With systems like Topol-M's which can fly over thousands of miles and destroy America and there is no defense against it (just an example of what type of weapons available), but Russia is fighting for over a year in Ukraine and they're not even in Kiev yet ? really?

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 20395705)

1. Do you really think that if Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it would take them years to do it? With systems like Topol-M's which can fly over thousands of miles and destroy America and there is no defense against it (just an example of what type of weapons available), but Russia is fighting for over a year in Ukraine and they're not even in Kiev yet ? really?

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 20395705)

man, your logic is of a 15 year old... When you say "Russia is trying to take more by force", can you answer me simple question?

1. Do you really think that if Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it would take them years to do it? With systems like Topol-M's which can fly over thousands of miles and destroy America and there is no defense against it (just an example of what type of weapons available), but Russia is fighting for over a year in Ukraine and they're not even in Kiev yet ? really?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20395647)

Once again another war crime committed by Russian backed Rebels or quite possible Russian solders themselves..

Video of frozen corpses with hands tied at Donetsk airport could be evidence of war crimes - watch on - uatoday.tv

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20391268)

It's just like the other ones.. They didn't give up sovereign land but allowing the rebels to "hold" parts of the country. Not like they are signing it over to Russia, just agreeing to allow Rebels to stay in certain areas.

Nothing will change, it's just more BS to pretend something positive is happening. They will still be fighting and are fighting at this very moment. There are also reports that while Putin was talking peace, that yet another armed convoy of 50 tanks & missile launchers rolled across the boarder.

Ukraine: 50 Russian tanks and 40 missile systems rolled into the country while Putin talked peace - Business Insider

It's pretty obvious no peace agreement involving Putin can be trusted. I honestly don't know why they even bothered, just more time for Russia to arm the rebels and secure up areas with more troops. Every peace talk has ended with Russian Rebels going for more territory.

Obviously Ukraine is at the disadvantage here as no one is supplying them with any weapons.. Unlike the Rebels are getting.. Which you know damn well "rebel" = Russian soldiers.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20396033)

how about the crimes that the other side did on broader scale ?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20396010)

They can't just openly invade another country that did nothing wrong or it would force the hand of others to step in.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20396079)

I'm pretty sure the "other" side hasn't shot down any airliners..

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20396389)

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20393826)

I'm not a pro-war one etc, but here I have to agree with you. If Putin was not a coward, he could finish this conflict in a few days with much less victims (the same way it was done with Georgia). The problem is that Putin is not a leader. He's just an old, thievish and paranoiac moron :2 cents:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20396426)

As far as I can see, we are invading Finland, Latvia, Estonia and Belorussia right now :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20396443)

No, that was in 1939 when Russia invaded its neighbors together with Nazi Germany.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20396452)

..and gifted them to the Ukraine :1orglaugh

P.S. Maybe it's time to return those territories? :winkwink:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20391272)

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20396463)

as far as I know Ukraine was not a sovereign country during USSR times.

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20396663)

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20396426)

Yep, open invasion of another countries FOR NO REASON is the US business exclusively. Here I totally agree with you comrade :2 cents:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thrax-vial.jpg



Here you are wrong, comrade. The other side (American rebels) did it as well: Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died).

Also check this out: 'US military shot down MH370' claims former Proteus Airlines boss | Daily Mail Online



Cool map. As far as I can see, we are invading Finland, Latvia, Estonia and Belorussia right now :thumbsup

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20396790)

You idiot.. I was talking about Ukraine, but as usual your little Putinbot brainwashed mentality, you have to make everything Russia vs US and use that for excesses for all the shit your 3rd world country does.

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20396798)

He just showed you guys don't have a shame telling something about Russia while US is devastating countries worldwide, for decades. There would be no ISIS and all that terror that US didn't invade those countries and destroyed governments and established organization.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20396790)

You idiot..

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20396825)

No he didn't. I already know what my country does. I even mentioned it before. I'm not in disillusion that my country does bad things or manages to fuck up.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20396842)

are the russians going to kill all those guys they have surrounded?

oh, i mean are the not-the-russians going to kill all those guys they have surrounded?