i certainly hope they are patriots..

This ceasefire will never work out, Putin signed it only to buy time for his war plan.
Ukrainian and western leaders are so naive that they have fallen more then once into his chess playing schemes. The dangerous of all this is that we are closer to an all nuclear war then we were in the cold war years.


He plans in invading Ukraine from the south and east and then blame west that he had invaded because he was forced too.

At least one wizard here who can read Putin's mind :2 cents:

still waiting for your answers to my questions, here's a few more for you:

4. If Russia was thinking about arming English side that overthrew democratically elected president, how would USA react to that?

5. Why Canada, Scotland are allowed to have referendums to separate, but in Ukraine is a big no no?

6. Why did Western powers approved Yugoslavian separation, but Ukraine is a huge problem?

waiting on your answers

I won't argue because we'll waist time and it'll be pointless, it wouldn't be that simple with Ukraine situation. Putin has a lot of bright people working in the government who know a lot more then me and you on gfy, I'm sure they run through many scenarios and came up with the most optimal.

You are trying to reverse the situation into something it's not. Your questions are irrelevant and hold no basis on the situation at hand.


The situation isn't the US arming Ukraine so Russia stepped in. The situation is Russia has invaded another country stolen part of it and is trying to take more by force. At the same time claiming to be doing nothing as if everyone else is idiots. Ukraine is "asking" for help to defend against Russia's aggression.

As for your other votes.. None of those were forced at gun point to vote for separation, with only 15% of the population voting in favor..


Stop being so fucking brainwashed.

your answers are always full of ignorance ,stupidity and with avoided basic logic. I suggest you try to monetize that phenomenon, by letting proper people to study you.

So let me guess another one whom thinks there are no Russian troops in Ukraine..

They did not approved, they pushed country into war by arming and helping bloody solution (Three sides in Bosnia agreed on peace : Croats, Serbs and Muslims, and muslim side canceled that deal after visit to US and promised help. Precisely what they are doing now in Ukraine.

Anyway, trying to make comparation and look for justice won't help. This is about big powers and about profit. Simple as that. It was peaceful country until someone decided to change government by force and resolve other "issues" by force. that is all.

Here is easy proof of Russian Military and supplies in Ukraine..

https://wp4553-flywheel.netdna-ssl.c.../01/MRAP-2.jpg

Ukraine Military does not have these Armored transports, but Russia has them..

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...olled-ukraine/


RPG-30 Once again a weapon which Ukraine forces do not have as they have only been in production since 2013.

http://www.euractiv.com/files/styles...?itok=bHfKBnNN


Look it's fucking amazing how many armored transports those Russian separatist have managed to "find". Even more amazing they all happen to find the exact same uniforms.. Fucking amazing these little Ruski separatist are, I tell you. I bet they just happened to find this stuff laying around with signs saying Free guns & ammo..

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Internat...28_4x3_992.jpg


Do you little brainwashed Ruski's need more or do you just expect everyone to believe your bullshit?

i'll summerize the problem in a more diplomatic way:

journal, magazines and books ?

No, I believe they are there. Otherwise, all those people there would end like those burned alive in Odessa . Problem is that there are no enough of them and they are playing absolutely same game NATO did in Yugoslavia. Lying while supporting one side. There is a good reason why NATO lied: they helped nazi lovers in ex YU, and muslim terrorists ,and they did it from countries miles away (including absolute supervision and support of real ethnic cleansing)

But Russians don't have to do it because nazis are on their own borders and there was attack on Russian population (language and existence). So , as I am concerned, they should invade on full scale and solve that shit fast and quick. If US can go thousands miles away, giving false info (for example WMD) and invade countries, why Russia don't to same. They have moral right ,at first place.

Maybe NATO is irritated because they are not able to provide real evidences, or because no one is believing in more lies after years of falsified excuses for war and devastation. But that is their problem. All this mess wouldn't look like that that NATO (US, because others are just puppets) didn't took Kosovo by force. Russia warned where it will lead, 15 years ago but no one listened.

All this are simple results of arrogance and disrespect of international laws that "west" did many years ago.

You are just ruski sympathizer, nothing more deep in that. But let me ask, if it was OK for nazis attack and kill bunch off people (like Russia does), why you are constantly complaining about nazis and accusing people as nazis? If it is OK to be asshole, then why you are complaining? Or if it isn't OK to be asshole, then why are you supporting Russia being asshole?

Are you nazi? You support that kind of stuff, what they did. You know, attacking fellow countries and such.

because it's a good charge if you are looking for an excuse to attack someone.
In france, there is nazis everywhere: muslims are nazis, putin is nazi, left wing if nazi, right wing is nazi, someone who dare to claim something else that socialist= nazi and so on...
How many self proclaimed nazis in france ? once i heard something like 3000

Nazis were national socialists. :)

no one is doing what peace treaty states.

Sorry, but I would have to go deep below my level to try to communicate with you, so your infantile comparison will remain unanswered , as I am concerned.

that peace treaty was a try to save 8K ukranian and NATO soldiers that are now surrounded. They got offer to leave guns and go out alive . But ,in that case NATO soldiers would be shown, what wold make problem to western mentors.

French nazis claim the same thing :winkwink:

Oh my, you might be closet nazi. It is OK, we accept you as you are, whatever it is.

For serious, if you leave the master race stuff, lebensraums and such out of it, there are lot of parties similar to nazis.

Although it wasn't the wealth distribution and such that made nazis distinctive politically. It was correcting the wrongs that happened to Germany after WWI; like losing territories, some Germans left to foreign countries and such. So, annexing lost territories and areas close to German culture. And yes, I am making nazi comparison in here. :)

there is a big difference: german nazis wanted an ubermensch and our current socialist want a fag with strong women...

another one: hitler wasn't really a hypocrite (except perhaps for peace for the sudetes), while our socialists are really a bunch of hypocrites

This is socialist:
Le traiteur libanais Noura réclame 41.000 euros de repas impayés Ãha Jack Lang et sa femme

you know, socialists, friends of the poors

Yep, a secret Russian weapon :thumbsup

Nazis? Really, I hate to break it to you but the Nazi's were the invaders and those whom tried to "annex" other countries land.. Ukraine isn't the Nazi's.. Russia is the invader..

I'm sorry that you don't understand the difference between rolling tanks into someone land and stealing it, vs being asked to help.. The fact is Russia is irrelevant on the world stage and all the former soviet block countries understand this.

None of them want to be controlled by Russia hence the reason these countries keep coming to the west for help & trade. The west doesn't have to roll tanks into these countries, because they are already tired of Russia's shit and want something better.

Two options:

1. Your grandparents were nazis and that is why you have such strong support for their actions.

2. Some Ruskies fucked you hard and that is a reason you are full of anger toward them.

I am just trying to figure out what is from those two above because normal person can't say something like you just did above.

haha ;-)

exactly......:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

I have thought here...

Commies have ever seen a communist country where the people were not dirt poor & brainwashed?

actually, people from communist countries (but not N.Korea) - these days mostly FORMER communist countries, are very often less brainwashed and smarter than average US CITIZEN......

but about being poor - yes, its true....

Oh please tell me that you don't think all these little Putinbots are not brainwashed? They deny the obvious.. Lets not forget about the civilian aircraft when Russian rebels boasted about shooting down even given the location of the wreckage location on Twitter, right up until it was found out to be a civilian airliner. Then suddenly they had nothing to do with it.

Time and time again we see these same Putinbots making ridiculous claims and outright lying, calling everyone Nazis, ect..ect, but they aren't brainwashed? If they aren't brainwashed then it's much worse, they are outright lying. :error

they did it by mistake. probably there was another plane (ukrainian military) flying close to that one

A PISS treaty, yeah.

Makes no sense but saving this epic thread full of retards.

http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/...D-1512907.jpeg

Of Course they did it by mistake, but those people are still very dead and it was very much a war crime. Now news is coming out of dead Ukrainian solders whom were likely executed at the Donetsk airport. Once again another war crime committed by Russian backed Rebels or quite possible Russian solders themselves..

Video of frozen corpses with hands tied at Donetsk airport could be evidence of war crimes - watch on - uatoday.tv

Meanwhile our lovely GFY Putinbots will tell us it's all lies, call someone a Nazi and tell us the Rebels are just innocent farmers and solders on vacation with their tanks of course.

from your link:

Nothing is conclusive proof until it's investigated and determined to be.. However it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out guys with head shots & hands tied behind their backs likely didn't die of old age...

Precisely. Idiotism. I can't believe there are still people believing in shit like that and didn't want even to answer to such childish comments.

Whole Racak "Massacre" was staged in similar manner and used as excuse to attack Serbia and invade Kosovo. Operation led by CIA operative Willam Walker. ( William Walker (diplomat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia))

Paste from wikipedia:

In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Yugoslav troops in the incident

Once you get through this shit (and many other staged stuff),you need to be serious idiot to believe in what you hear or see.

obviously, you are not a brain surgeon !

here for photos of russian tanks in Ukraine :

....:warning